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Scott Morrison loving sucks.   loving clown government.
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38/38 Ranked in OECD
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drat, that Crikey article was so bad that it killed the thread! Edit: lol gottem vvv Pile Of Garbage fucked around with this message at 10:58 on Jul 2, 2021 |
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Jul 2, 2021 10:48
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Anidav is the Scott Morrison of this thread (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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starkebn posted:38/38 Ranked in OECD
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Jul 2, 2021 10:55
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We are now entering Phase 4 of WordCloud.
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starkebn posted:38/38 Ranked in OECD
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I hate anidav!!!!
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Jul 2, 2021 11:07
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Free muyb
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Jul 2, 2021 11:07
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The soft ride the Liberals get at the next election from the media will be even more infuriating than usual when they fail at phase 1 of their 4 phase "plan"
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moice
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Jul 2, 2021 11:27
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i will vote for whoever will get the proper Ninja Warrior back on SBS
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Jul 2, 2021 11:35
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Does that mean Newscorp will get priority pfizer deliveries over the vaccine hubs and GPs?
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Jul 2, 2021 11:36
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I LUST FOR CLOT DEATH
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Jul 2, 2021 11:39
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thatbastardken posted:I LUST FOR CLOT DEATH no one calls it clot death anymore, it's Sudden Immunisation Death Sydrome.
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Jul 2, 2021 12:07
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wtf
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Jul 2, 2021 12:08
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Tommunist posted:Free muyb
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Jul 2, 2021 12:21
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Anidav posted:loving clown government.
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moice
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Jul 2, 2021 12:27
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Begin Phase 2 is what the supervillain orders. So, sounds like the delta variant is less deadly?
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Homora Gaykemi posted:i will vote for whoever will get the proper Ninja Warrior back on SBS For a brief period, you could find the condensed version of the show on youbute. All the bullshit cut out, just the runs. Reminded me of the old Mythbusters Streamlined you could find back in the day.
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I don't hold a needle mate.
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Jul 2, 2021 14:19
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Budzilla posted:What if their plan all along was for us to die? That's basically their Plan B. Also Plan A is usually just "do nothing"
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Jul 2, 2021 14:30
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i am calling a leadership spill
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Jul 2, 2021 15:00
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BBJoey posted:i am calling a leadership spill I think you have to be a sex pest to do that.
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From the previous thread:Aware posted:
My answer to this is yes, absolutely, there is an actual problem here, and that problem is that in allowing this, the Australian government has clearly and obviously set a double standard. Back in May, the Australian government refused to allow a bunch of people to return to Australia from India because they had returned a positive COVID-19 test (many of which were later shown to be false-positives), and refused to entertain the idea of allowing exemptions for medical evacuation flights for COVID-positive citizens trapped in India, which at the time was hitting world headlines for having to burn bodies in car parks and literal brawls breaking out in hospitals over oxygen cylinders because their crematoriums and hospitals were overwhelmed with demand. At the time, the prime minister himself had said: quote:Morrison said the government was not considering allowing people who had tested positive to board flights. It'd be one thing if the Australian government had said 'you know what, we realised we were being poo poo, we've set up medevac flights for people stuck around the world, and in addition to that we've also allowed this family back in to Australia from Indonesia for the same reason', but that's not the case. This is from the Australian Border Force website, I looked it up just then: quote:All people travelling to Australia on flights departing on or after 22 January 2021 (local time at departure point) must provide proof of a negative COVID-19 polymerase chain reaction (PCR) result at the time of check-in. The rules are still pretty clear - you have to be shown as negative for COVID-19 before boarding a flight. I'd suggest most Australians understand the reasoning for this policy, and even if they don't like it - they can accept it for now. So when our government provided this one family exemptions that allowed them to enter the country while sickened with COVID, despite the fact months earlier this same government refused to lift a finger to help our citizens who had tested positive to COVID in India (some of whom are still in India, and India is still struggling), they've demonstrated there's a set of rules for one group of Australians, and another for the rest of us. This decision was neither reasonable, nor fair. This decision was made despite the rules, despite the publics general acceptance of only allowing citizens to return when they have tested negative for COVID, and despite our governments flagrant callousness to a larger group of people just weeks earlier. It's reasonable to ask them: What has changed? What is it about this one family that has made this government decide to let them in despite our quarantine system being leakier than a sieve? What makes this journo and their family so special? Is it because they're rich? Or because they're white? Or because one of them happens to work for one of the most influential media outlets in Australia? Or is it just that the government is corrupt as gently caress and some money or favours have been exchanged?  So far they've said they 'weren't aware of it'. But... I do not understand how this could have happened unintentionally, given how clear the guidelines are and how presumably border farce has to be involved in this process at some point or other. So either they're weak or they're poo poo. tl;dr - by allowing this family to return while covid-positive but not others, the government has set a double-standard. froglet fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Jul 2, 2021 |
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I was reading about the car park grants and then going back to read about the sports grants that I mostly missed the first time around. Surely someone in the prime minister’s office has started a spreadsheet for hospitals and vaccine distribution centres in electorates they want to target.
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BBJoey posted:i am calling a leadership spill Lmao look at this vic nationals looking nerd
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Anidav is actually more like the Ben roberts smith of this thread, abuses legal proceedings to silence dissent. Also the war crimes.
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froglet posted:Big good post I don't have enough info about this particular decision to really argue against this and you make great points - save to say that COVID positive and likely positive people have been and continue to be repratriated on medivac flights/gov approval, as I've seen in first hand from the recent PNG outbreak. I definitely don't disagree that the India situation is loving awful for those stuck there and we should have spent a lot of pork barrelling and other money on repatriating Australian citizens on government charter flights for sure.
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Why would you expect anything less than double standards from this muppet government? They're the most corrupt pack of numpties in living memory.
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Comstar posted:So, sounds like the delta variant is less deadly? I don't think so? It's about the same, but more contagious, so indirectly more deadly because it will infect more people. The reason e.g. the UK is seeing an uptick in cases but not deaths is because they're so vaccinated. Anyway, exclusive in the Sat paper today has leaks from the national Cabinet meeting and apparently the AHPPC urged Morrison to drop AZ entirely but he didn't want the optics of GPs having to throw out vaccines the government had bought: https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2021/07/03/exclusive-morrison-ignored-chief-health-officers-advice/162523440011987 quote:The Saturday Paper has spoken to several people with direct knowledge of how the emergency meeting late on Monday unfolded. There was a sense of panic and frustration from the prime minister, who also grilled the Australian Health Protection Principal Committee (AHPPC), the advisory body for chief health and medical officers, about making vaccines mandatory for aged-care workers.
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Aware posted:I don't have enough info about this particular decision to really argue against this and you make great points - save to say that COVID positive and likely positive people have been and continue to be repratriated on medivac flights/gov approval, as I've seen in first hand from the recent PNG outbreak. Yeah, agreed. My problem isn't really with the idea of repatriating sick Australians (imho we absolutely should), it's more with the hypocrisy. Six weeks ago our government was saying given Australia has no real COVID problem, they were not desirous of importing one by encouraging any scheme of medical repatriation, then go on to allow in a family who absolutely would not be allowed in normally. freebooter posted:I don't think so? It's about the same, but more contagious, so indirectly more deadly because it will infect more people. The thing is, I thought there is no reason for us to drop AZ entirely. That's not to say jab everyone with it, but how many people over the age of 60 have received both their shots? (I looked it up, it's less than 40% for the older age brackets)
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People in Indonesia are wanting their government to try and buy unwanted AZ from us, so there is a place we could send whatever we produce in the future to, in addition to the pacific island countries we already have agreements with. But I guess Morrison wouldn't love the optics of sending a large amount overseas while Australians remain unvaccinated either. https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/we-are-in-need-of-vaccines-indonesians-eye-australia-s-unwanted-astrazeneca-20210701-p58610.html quote:Dr Erlina Burhan, the spokeswoman for COVID-19 from the Indonesian Medical Association, said Indonesia’s health ministry and state-owned vaccine producer PT Bio Farma should procure any unwanted doses from the 50 million being produced by Australian biotech company CSL.
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Centusin posted:People in Indonesia are wanting their government to try and buy unwanted AZ from us, so there is a place we could send whatever we produce in the future to, in addition to the pacific island countries we already have agreements with. But I guess Morrison wouldn't love the optics of sending a large amount overseas while Australians remain unvaccinated either. I completely believe that Morrison would prefer to see people die overseas rather than look bad.
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Centusin posted:People in Indonesia are wanting their government to try and buy unwanted AZ from us, so there is a place we could send whatever we produce in the future to, in addition to the pacific island countries we already have agreements with. But I guess Morrison wouldn't love the optics of sending a large amount overseas while Australians remain unvaccinated either. and help the people smugglers?! Are you mad?!
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froglet posted:The thing is, I thought there is no reason for us to drop AZ entirely. That's not to say jab everyone with it, but how many people over the age of 60 have received both their shots? (I looked it up, it's less than 40% for the older age brackets) It's less effective against Delta, which is basically the same as saying it's less effective against COVID, because that's going to become the dominant strain globally by the of the year. (Unless an even worse one crops up!) But I'd assume the reason the AHPPC wants to drop it is because its name is mud. Jeanette Young basically gave it a coup de grace the other day. It doesn't matter how good your vaccine may or may not be if nobody wants to take it.
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NPR Journalizard posted:I completely believe that Morrison would prefer to see people die overseas rather than look bad. Replace "Morrison" with "any politician".
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