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https://twitter.com/FinalFantasy/status/1412758730949677058
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 18:20 |
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# ? Jun 12, 2024 15:42 |
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When the entire postal system fell apart because one moogle wouldn’t stop lubing up.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 19:14 |
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I mentioned this not too long ago but I will never forget my first run of FFIX. The ending was that perfect blend of bittersweet - sweet because I was totally satisfied and bitter because it was over. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye7BGnlTZmQ For me today, Melodies of Life has a nostalgic power like few other songs.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 20:17 |
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I don't have any real adoration or nostalgia for IX but the scenes where the summons are summoned will always stick with me when I think about it. Especially Alexander.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 20:26 |
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Still my favorite FF after all these years. Something about playing it just feels like coming home.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 21:07 |
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I played it once a thousand years ago, it was fine, more of a throwback. I recognize that many people think it’s one of the best and I won’t contest that or anything but it’s Just Fine to me! Maybe I should give it another go!
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 21:11 |
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After 7 and 8 it was kind of meant as a throw back and send off before they took things in a different direction. If you've enjoyed more modern FF games more I think thinking 9 is Just Fine is pretty on the mark. It's up there for me but largely because of it's art and all the little different bits of it's world, Zidane and Dagger and the overall story are less attractive to me than the art design of essentially everything else. Even the big fantastical cities and locations in 9 don't feel like the big fantastical cities and locations in 7, 8, 13, etc.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 21:18 |
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jokes posted:I played it once a thousand years ago, it was fine, more of a throwback. I recognize that many people think it’s one of the best and I won’t contest that or anything but it’s Just Fine to me! There is absolutely nothing objective about my opinion of it, honestly. It's pretty heavily flawed in a lot of ways. But the things it does well endear it to me a lot, and it does those things amazingly. Vivi's arc is a big standout--I really think his arc is one of the best-written character arcs in the whole series--and I also absolutely love how colorful and alive the world feels. There's so much detail in every city and random NPCs have so much personality. I love it a lot.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 21:21 |
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I still can’t believe that IX, X, and XI were announced at the same time lol
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 21:23 |
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FF9's lovely strategy guide was probably the only thing that kept me from becoming a full fledged final fantasy obsessed teen. Considering what I decided to be obsessed with instead I lost out big time
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 21:24 |
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That strategy guide was hilariously bad. I'm pretty sure I still have my copy somewhere, too.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 21:26 |
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No Mods No Masters posted:FF9's lovely strategy guide was probably the only thing that kept me from becoming a full fledged final fantasy obsessed teen. Considering what I decided to be obsessed with instead I lost out big time This is also one of the reasons I was put off of IX for a while. I had this garbage guide and I gave it to a friend for free because I hated it so much.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 21:27 |
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The only reason I bought the guide was because I didn’t have internet at the time.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 21:32 |
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I think the guide ironically locked myself in using Gamefaqs instead because we had internet but PlayOnline was a multimedia trainwreck that took 5 minutes to load a page on dialup. I miss a good early 2000s Gamefaqs guide because there was a certain magic intersection of detail and brevity that let you log into dialup, get enough info to satisfy you for an afternoon, and remember it or take notes because you aren't allowed to print anything. Then log off before you're yelled at for tying up the phone.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 21:42 |
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I replayed it earlier this year and it remains my favorite. Not only is it charming as hell, the dialogue is actually well written and with clear intent, unlike some of the gibberish from VIII and earlier. Vivi is a standout as everyone knows, but Dagger is in my opinion extremely underrated. Her arc is fairly typical (sheltered princess to confident adventurer) but it’s played straight and it’s solid. She also plays off Zidane and doesn’t buy into his bullshit.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 21:45 |
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Promyvion in Chains of Promathia. Some mobs were sight aggro, some sound aggro, nobody wanted to fight them and the (bad) gimmick of the place was getting 18 folks through there who would then split into groups of 6 to do the actual fight. That's the kind of exploring puzzle I enjoy, so I and others from my linkshell set ourselves up as guides and charged people to get their party to the end. Edit: oops I read XI instead of IX.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 21:57 |
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Honestly? No one specific moment stands out, 9 is amazing because start-to-finish it's just solid as hell. Very little real downtime or padding, and the story flows perfectly. I guess getting to Terra for the first time was pretty
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 22:17 |
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Bruceski posted:Promyvion in Chains of Promathia. Some mobs were sight aggro, some sound aggro, nobody wanted to fight them and the (bad) gimmick of the place was getting 18 folks through there who would then split into groups of 6 to do the actual fight. That's the kind of exploring puzzle I enjoy, so I and others from my linkshell set ourselves up as guides and charged people to get their party to the end. I feel like charging people for essential things was a major part of what kept XI's economy going Did they ever allow you to teleport between cities or are you still stuck paying a white mage to teleport you 1-2 zones away from the city you're trying to get to
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 22:18 |
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Every second in treno is the best memory of FFIX.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 22:20 |
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FF9 is just okay in my book but I really like Steiner a lot. I feel like he would have been a little better if he was portrayed more professionally (I hate that him having rusty armor is actually real, and not just something Zidane says to annoy him, though maybe it's a matter of "Men in Alexandria are treated like they're incompetent so they're given the poo poo equipment"), but I still think he's a great character and it's interesting watching him go from exceptionally loyal to the queen to having his doubts to finally deciding to turn against her. He's basically a father figure to Garnet too, he clearly cares a great deal about her even beyond just guarding her life (saying things like that she shouldn't experience war like he has). Also my favorite moment in FF9 is when Quina does anything.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 22:26 |
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Snow Cone Capone posted:I feel like charging people for essential things was a major part of what kept XI's economy going do you have to actually, like, travel to get places in FFXI?
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 23:05 |
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Do you think Quina is the one raising Vivi's kids after he dies? Since they're married and all
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 23:53 |
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I think my favorite part of IX was the very Shakespearean comedy setpiece at the start of Disc 2? 3? With Eiko's lost love letter, and all the convenient coincidences and misunderstandings it leads to. But yeah, IX was just super charming and endearing throughout for me.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 23:54 |
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In this house we Love Bobby Corwin
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# ? Jul 8, 2021 00:07 |
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grieving for Gandalf posted:do you have to actually, like, travel to get places in FFXI? I stopped playing when the Abyssea stuff came out, so before the last full-fledged expansion Seekers of Adoulin, but yeah, your options for travelling long-distance, IIRC, were: -on foot with a wing and a prayer -chocobo -airships that ran 4 times a day between each destination, if you missed it you had to hang out and wait for the next one -Teleport-_____ spells, only learned by white mages, which would teleport you to one of the Crags, big story-important landmarks that existed a zone or 2 away from the major hubs You'd walk into Jueno (the 4th "neutral" nation aside from the 3 major starter nations you chose from) and just get a wall of /shouts "Tele-Dem <do you need it?> 3000 <gil> the zones were big, too - I remember hoofing it from my starter city Bastok to Jueno and it took something like 30+ minutes? all the while dodging enemies 30-40 levels higher than me most of the way
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# ? Jul 8, 2021 00:34 |
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Snow Cone Capone posted:I stopped playing when the Abyssea stuff came out, so before the last full-fledged expansion Seekers of Adoulin, but yeah, your options for travelling long-distance, IIRC, were: I know that'd be a big pain but it almost sounds neat
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# ? Jul 8, 2021 00:37 |
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I remember getting FFX on ps2 and my console was in my basement whereas the family computer was on the 2nd floor, so after realizing running up to the computer constantly to check gamefaqs, I finally started strategically printing guides I needed. A very early 2000s statement.
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# ? Jul 8, 2021 00:42 |
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grieving for Gandalf posted:I know that'd be a big pain but it almost sounds neat It was and it was The difficulty of travel definitely made ffxi's world feel much bigger than it truly was and made getting chocobo/airship access very rewarding
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# ? Jul 8, 2021 00:44 |
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grieving for Gandalf posted:I know that'd be a big pain but it almost sounds neat It was both. Traveling had a sense of danger and blind exploration that no other game has captured for me (I didn’t play Everquest or other contemporary MMOs) and the impossibility of doing any content that was level appropriate solo actually fostered a decent sense of community and cooperation in the player base. It was also an ungodly time sink that required an hour to do anything of worth outside of smithing/trading, and that is if you had a preset group that was ready to go right away. Otherwise you would want at least two plus hours to try to do anything besides goof around. I have a lot of fond memories of FFXI, but I’m under no delusion that it wasn’t an incredible time sink with a ton of barriers to enjoying it that could only be overcome by people with huge chunks of time to devote to it.
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# ? Jul 8, 2021 00:45 |
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That era of MMOs generally had the goal of giving you a second life in every possible sense. A lot of time the equation closed in on itself and your second life was worse than your first life.
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# ? Jul 8, 2021 01:07 |
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Chesterton once remarked that an adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered, and an inconvenience is only an adventure wrongly considered. Pretty much every video game is a balancing act between adventure and inconvenience.
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# ? Jul 8, 2021 01:13 |
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IX isn't my favorite but it's the one I get the urge to replay the most. It's just very well done.
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# ? Jul 8, 2021 01:42 |
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grieving for Gandalf posted:I know that'd be a big pain but it almost sounds neat It was a pain but that first walk from Bastok to Jueno was one of the most memorable experiences in an MMO I've had, the scenery was gorgeous, there was a ton of lore-relevant architecture and natural features that were that much more impressive because I had no idea what their relevance was. For example, there's a loving gigantic spine just chilling across half the map in one zone
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# ? Jul 8, 2021 01:49 |
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Yeah XI now lets you pay a very small amount of gil to freely teleport between home points and survival guide books you've accessed before and there's a ring that will cast Warp with a ten minute recast. Also mounts. But you do have to go to those places to begin with which means boats, airship pass etc
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# ? Jul 8, 2021 02:02 |
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IX was my first “real” JRPG, like I played games with RPG mechanics through my childhood/adolescence like the Mega Man Battle Network series, a bunch of Pokémon, and Mario and Luigi, but IX was the first that was a sprawling fantasy adventure that was like a full 30 hour game with a game-spanning side quest on top of that that took full advantage of the world map. The battle system (or rather, it’s speed) has aged poorly, some of the characters are underutilized, but poo poo, having IX be your first FF title is retroactively a hell of a trip cause there’s references to every prior game from stuff like Trance to the real subtle stuff like Bobby Corwen. So umm, I guess every moment in 9 is memorable, I can still recite the exact order stuff happens and even minutiae like a lot of the random encounters.
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# ? Jul 8, 2021 02:08 |
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It's kind of weird that in general Final Fantasy hasn't introduced something like the Zoom spell from Dragon Quest that lets you easily revisit earlier towns. It can't even be because "You get an airship in FF" because you get some sort of flight vehicle in most DQ games too.
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# ? Jul 8, 2021 02:26 |
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Twelve by Pies posted:It's kind of weird that in general Final Fantasy hasn't introduced something like the Zoom spell from Dragon Quest that lets you easily revisit earlier towns. It can't even be because "You get an airship in FF" because you get some sort of flight vehicle in most DQ games too. the world maps of various FFs feel much more iconic to me than other games. I couldn't tell you the general shape of BoF2's map if I tried BoF3 doesn't have a warp that I can remember, and I'm way more nostalgic for that too
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# ? Jul 8, 2021 03:00 |
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Do we think FFXVI will be in tomorrow's State of Play
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# ? Jul 8, 2021 03:04 |
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Travelling was honestly one of the best experiences of WoW. Especially dodging through higher levelled areas and having to stay out of range of like a giant T-Rex or something. Even flying between cities was chill where you can just enjoy the scenery. I don't know if they've sped up the travelling process since I left (like 3-4 expansions ago), but even if it took up a lot of time, it was just kinda nice.
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# ? Jul 8, 2021 03:05 |
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Do we think FFXVI will be in tomorrow's State of Play hell I didn't even know State of Play was tomorrow
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