UKMT Summer 2021: I didn't paddleboard while Kabul fell, the sea was closed

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Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-brexit-jews-ireland-b1879900.html

Also, what about halal food for muslims - apparently (to my surprise) I discover that muslims are the second largest religious community in Northern Ireland (article here mentions 4000 http://euroviews.eu/2019/2019/04/22/muslims-in-northern-ireland-are-sitting-on-the-fence/ )

Halal food has been completely vilified by the red tops, since the 'animal cruelty' angle is one of the few islamophobic corners left that they can still hide in. Kosher food is only being pushed to keep the antesemitism angle going. I doubt this has anything to do with actual religious requirements.

# ? Jul 8, 2021 03:44

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# ? May 25, 2024 23:47

Trickjaw: Jun 23, 2005; Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene

ThomasPaine posted:

There's nothing more cringy than people who think they're above a sports game. It's cool if you're not into it, whatever, but there's nothing to admire about being a pretentious misery-guts. The England football team is not the British government and it's nice sometimes to find something to have fun with and feel good about. I am qualified to say this as I very much used to be that teenage arsehole who thought only dumbasses enjoyed it, and now I have very much realised that was my own very pathetic classist 'I'm not like most proles' subconscious attitude coming out.

e: it's surprising how many people in my family immediately go to 'it's disgusting that footballers earn so much when nurses don't' when we talk about wealth disparity, completely ignoring the actual problem. Like ok complain that football shouldn't be the multi million pound industry it is, but that's not the players' fault and if someone offered me hundreds of thousands a month to do something I loved I'd jump at the chance. It's also one of the very very few jobs where working class kids can, if they're very very good and very lucky, become astonisthhingly rich, without the need for connections etc. I wonder if that's related to the above point, somehow.

vv Yes, exactly, if you're not into the game that's perfectly fine. Don't watch it. It's the people who sit there coming up with smug takes about how they're much more intellectual than all of this silly nonsense that annoy me.

Football, however, is pure strain capitalism. Football means nothing to me, I don't enjoy or understand it, but if people enjoy it, knock yourself out. There is something inheritantly British about going crackers at a game, yet if the government installed oxygen meters tomorrow, they would roll their eyes and go. "Tsk."

# ? Jul 8, 2021 04:03

serious gaylord: Sep 16, 2007; what.

Mebh posted:

I just think the fans are mostly nationalistic wankers.

Posts like this are embarrassing.

# ? Jul 8, 2021 06:46

bump_fn: Apr 12, 2004; _{two of them}

the english shouldn�t be alllowed to be happy tho

# ? Jul 8, 2021 07:33

Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

serious gaylord posted:

Posts like this are embarrassing.

Be that as it may, every nationalistic wanker in the country is going to be even more insufferable than usual until Sunday, and should England somehow win they'll be RAH RAH BREXIT TRIUMPH for the next sixty loving years.

# ? Jul 8, 2021 08:19

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

More like footBAD

# ? Jul 8, 2021 08:27

Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018

More like fuckball

# ? Jul 8, 2021 08:28

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

https://twitter.com/AmariBailey/status/1412905108812271623

# ? Jul 8, 2021 08:32

Party Boat: Nov 1, 2007; where did that other dog come from

who is he

Jedit posted:

Be that as it may, every nationalistic wanker in the country is going to be even more insufferable than usual until Sunday, and should England somehow win they'll be RAH RAH BREXIT TRIUMPH for the next sixty loving years.

We can be just as insufferable back by pointing out that a bunch of woke, knee-taking marxists are the best team England's had in decades

# ? Jul 8, 2021 08:36

keep punching joe: Jan 22, 2006; Die Satan!

The English can have a little nationalism, as a treat.

# ? Jul 8, 2021 08:40

Flayer: Sep 13, 2003; by Fluffdaddy; Buglord

Jedit posted:

Be that as it may, every nationalistic wanker in the country is going to be even more insufferable than usual until Sunday, and should England somehow win they'll be RAH RAH BREXIT TRIUMPH for the next sixty loving years.

Wrong on every count. You should have been out in London last night, it was pure joy and it was unrestricted across gender and ethnicity. If you really think that this will be in some way linked with Brexit you are deeply out of touch.

# ? Jul 8, 2021 08:40

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Party Boat posted:

We can be just as insufferable back by pointing out that a bunch of woke, knee-taking marxists are the best team England's had in decades

https://twitter.com/JHenderson/status/1410294934083620869

They're good lads who mean well.

On a more general note - if you let the shittiness of other fans of <thing> stop you from liking <thing> you'll basically never ever like anything good, and if you use the shittiness of those fans as a brush to tar all of the fans of <thing> you're probably not as good a person as you like to think you are.

# ? Jul 8, 2021 08:45

Junior G-man: Sep 15, 2004; Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma

Good morning - have a fresh new UKMT-own pod to take care of your Engerlander victory last night:

https://twitter.com/PraxisCast/status/1413040386570850304?s=20

# ? Jul 8, 2021 08:47

Aipsh: Feb 17, 2006; GLUPP SHITTO FAN CLUB PRESIDENT

In more stories about why the NHS is one of humanity's best creations; my partner was asked by her doctor to get a spinal MRI on thursday, and long story short she's currently in surgery right now.

I don't know exactly how Covid has impacted the timeline for better or worse, but honestly it's been so fast from a doctor asking for a cursory MRI for their records, to an issue being identified, investigated, consulted with and acted upon.

Obvs I'm right now unbelievably making GBS threads myself but am trying to distract myself with 9th Wonder of the Modern World the NHS

# ? Jul 8, 2021 08:54

Party Boat: Nov 1, 2007; where did that other dog come from

who is he

goddamnedtwisto posted:

https://twitter.com/JHenderson/status/1410294934083620869

They're good lads who mean well.

On a more general note - if you let the shittiness of other fans of <thing> stop you from liking <thing> you'll basically never ever like anything good, and if you use the shittiness of those fans as a brush to tar all of the fans of <thing> you're probably not as good a person as you like to think you are.

This is genuinely lovely and has made what was an already good morning for me even better.

# ? Jul 8, 2021 09:07

Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018

Aidan_702 posted:

In more stories about why the NHS is one of humanity's best creations; my partner was asked by her doctor to get a spinal MRI on thursday, and long story short she's currently in surgery right now.

I don't know exactly how Covid has impacted the timeline for better or worse, but honestly it's been so fast from a doctor asking for a cursory MRI for their records, to an issue being identified, investigated, consulted with and acted upon.

Obvs I'm right now unbelievably making GBS threads myself but am trying to distract myself with 9th Wonder of the Modern World the NHS

Sending good spinal vibes

# ? Jul 8, 2021 09:08

Regarde Aduck: Oct 19, 2012; c l o u d k i t t e n; Grimey Drawer

bump_fn posted:

the english shouldn�t be alllowed to be happy tho

The one honest post

# ? Jul 8, 2021 09:09

Miftan: Mar 31, 2012; Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Aidan_702 posted:

In more stories about why the NHS is one of humanity's best creations; my partner was asked by her doctor to get a spinal MRI on thursday, and long story short she's currently in surgery right now.

I don't know exactly how Covid has impacted the timeline for better or worse, but honestly it's been so fast from a doctor asking for a cursory MRI for their records, to an issue being identified, investigated, consulted with and acted upon.

Obvs I'm right now unbelievably making GBS threads myself but am trying to distract myself with 9th Wonder of the Modern World the NHS

Glad to hear it's progressing fast and smoothly for your partner. Fingers crossed for a quick resolution and little to no recovery time for you both. Remember to make lots of Spinal Tap jokes to your partner once they're out of surgery.

# ? Jul 8, 2021 09:10

Crankit: Feb 7, 2011; HE WATCHES

I'm writing a polite but strong letter to kasper schmeichel to let him know the football is coming home after all. I do want him to know that it's a serious matter, but I don't want to seem threatening or angry, so I'm considering composing it with my green crayons and clippings from heat magazine.
I hope everyone in the thread will join me in sending letters to kasper who, god willing, will become a friendly ghost.

# ? Jul 8, 2021 09:44

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Stay safe football friendly ghost

# ? Jul 8, 2021 09:50

josh04: Oct 19, 2008; "THE FLASH IS THE REASON
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UEFA needs to consider the possibility that Kasper was in fact emitting the spooky lasers.

# ? Jul 8, 2021 09:57

Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018

Schmeichel was completely right, and you can (and should) support the Brave Three Lions while hating the British press.

Yes, I know it's all bants.

:italy:

# ? Jul 8, 2021 10:05

Mebh: May 10, 2010

serious gaylord posted:

Posts like this are embarrassing.

Eh you're right. I'm just feeling really fed up with football as its invaded every aspect of my work life as well as here and my home life.

That's no reason to generalise about the fans who almost certainly are 95% decent happy folk and like anything else probably less than 5% twattery.

I won't deny that watching the insane goal reaction videos from last night was quite entertaining.

# ? Jul 8, 2021 10:29

feedmegin: Jul 30, 2008

Jedit posted:

Be that as it may, every nationalistic wanker in the country is going to be even more insufferable than usual until Sunday, and should England somehow win they'll be RAH RAH BREXIT TRIUMPH for the next sixty loving years.

It's not even the actual World Cup, tho

# ? Jul 8, 2021 10:39

Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

feedmegin posted:

It's not even the actual World Cup, tho

We didn't just leave the world, though.

# ? Jul 8, 2021 10:42

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Jedit posted:

We didn't just leave the world, though.

Give it time, we're just having a breather before the next brexit

# ? Jul 8, 2021 10:57

Pablo Bluth: Sep 7, 2007; I've made a huge mistake.

I assume that the official UKMT position on anthems is that they should be booed at every opportunity given their significance to nationalistic brainworms?

Start of a football game: boo away
Olympic openining ceremony: boo away
During BBC Proms: boo away
Random TV commercial: boo away
Queen's state funeral: boo away

# ? Jul 8, 2021 11:03

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

keep punching joe posted:

The English can have a little nationalism, as a treat.

It's a good thing the circuses are doing well because hoo boy do I have terrible news about the bread.

https://twitter.com/FluffySocialist/status/1412984718790955008?s=19

# ? Jul 8, 2021 11:04

Comrade Fakename: Feb 13, 2012

https://twitter.com/TheIDSmiths/status/1413069202676719617

# ? Jul 8, 2021 11:09

Z the IVth: Jan 28, 2009; The trouble with your "expendable machines"; Fun Shoe

Bobby Deluxe posted:

Halal food has been completely vilified by the red tops, since the 'animal cruelty' angle is one of the few islamophobic corners left that they can still hide in. Kosher food is only being pushed to keep the antesemitism angle going. I doubt this has anything to do with actual religious requirements.

Considering Halal and kosher ritual slaughter is essentially the same how does that fly?

# ? Jul 8, 2021 11:14

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Pablo Bluth posted:

I assume that the official UKMT position on anthems is that they should be booed at every opportunity given their significance to nationalistic brainworms?

Start of a football game: boo away
Olympic openining ceremony: boo away
During BBC Proms: boo away
Random TV commercial: boo away
Queen's state funeral: boo away

Also booing anthems annoys the poo poo out of fubpees so there's that too.

# ? Jul 8, 2021 11:28

Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018

Jedit posted:

We didn't just leave the world, though.

???

# ? Jul 8, 2021 11:29

Hidingo Kojimba: Mar 29, 2010

Z the IVth posted:

Considering Halal and kosher ritual slaughter is essentially the same how does that fly?

Racism basically.

# ? Jul 8, 2021 11:36

feedmegin: Jul 30, 2008

Jedit posted:

We didn't just leave the world, though.

OR DID WE

# ? Jul 8, 2021 11:37

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Z the IVth posted:

Considering Halal and kosher ritual slaughter is essentially the same how does that fly?

People were complaining more about red tractor certified Halal meat sold in supermarkets, which is slaughtered exactly the same as the rest of the supermarket meat but with a prayer, than they were about any Kosher butchers.

The objectionable bit was that they had to see a foreign Muslim word while shopping rather than any of the details.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Also booing anthems annoys the poo poo out of fubpees so there's that too.

If people are taking the knee for the anthem how do you make it clear that you're booing the anthem and not the taking of the knee?

# ? Jul 8, 2021 11:42

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Kneel and boo at the same time.

Or sing something better to drown out the anthem.

# ? Jul 8, 2021 11:48

stev: Jan 22, 2013; Please be excited.

They don't usually actually kneel during the anthem do they (even if that was the original idea behind it)? I thought they did it after.

# ? Jul 8, 2021 11:51

keep punching joe: Jan 22, 2006; Die Satan!

Government should combat increased fatigue amongst UK haulage drivers by repealing the mephedrone ban.

# ? Jul 8, 2021 11:51

Jaeluni Asjil: Apr 18, 2018; Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Z the IVth posted:

Considering Halal and kosher ritual slaughter is essentially the same how does that fly?

There are differences between halal and kosher - not with the meat but with other items. For example you can have kosher wine but it would not be halal. Also kosher uses some gelatine and there's something to do with some sorts of seafood as well.
So while muslims are often advised that they can eat kosher if halal is not available - kosher is more strict than halal on the whole - they have to look out for a special kosher mark which is the very strict kosher interpretation. And they still need to check for non-halal items.

But yeah, essentially the big fuss in the papers was racism (

quote:

gammon: 'but islam is not a race so it's not racism'

) well whatever you want to call it then*.

(When I first moved to Cairo I couldn't understand why none of the shops had 'halal' in the windows (حلال) signs in the windows - a common feature of downtown Walthamstow.. took me a while to realize that just about everything was halal except in the specialist pork product shops catering to the Copts and expats.)

* ed: VVV yes bigotry - I couldn't think of the word.

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 11:58 on Jul 8, 2021

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# ? May 25, 2024 23:47

Gort: Aug 18, 2003; Good day what ho cup of tea

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

well whatever you want to call it then.

bigotry

# ? Jul 8, 2021 11:56

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