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Connie4800
Oct 14, 2019
There's something about large-scale live steam which is just incredibly calming. It's probably the most anglo-boomer of hobbies but it's really cool to watch. I wish i had enough money to buy a mamod.

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Cactus Ghost
Dec 20, 2003

you can actually inflate your scrote pretty safely with sterile saline, syringes, needles, and aseptic technique. its a niche kink iirc

the saline just slowly gets absorbed into your blood but in the meantime you got a big round smooth distended nutsack

i get my live steam fix (and my hobby machining fix) vicariously through Blondihacks

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7Jf7t6BL4e74O53dL6arSw

LimaBiker
Dec 9, 2020




So, err, today i learned about South Africa's coal trains.

They work on 50 kilovolts. They can be 340 cars long, with 10 locomotives. With a total mass of 41.000 tonnes.

I've never heard about it until now, and i've always been kinda interested in trains.

Is the existence of this bizarrely huge train common knowledge and am i living under a rock?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sishen%E2%80%93Saldanha_railway_line

GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ
Brief snippet of the Soviet Army building a pontoon bridge and then running a steam train over it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyGRKRKOst8&t=206s
Skip to 3:26 if that link doesn't work, or watch the whole thing because it's cool

Advent Horizon
Jan 17, 2003

I’m back, and for that I am sorry


NoWake posted:

The C&O operated car floats across Lake Michigan, and it's the only way railcars get to Alaska, too. There is no overland link to Canada or the lower 48. I should have some photos from an Alaska Railroad terminal in a month or so, heading up there to guide an installation of some track material we made.

ARR has a twice-weekly barge in the summer; both came in while I was in Whittier last month. I just went looking through my photos and I swear I took pictures of the rail barge but can’t find them.

Skagway lifts everything off the barge with cranes now.

Tex Avery
Feb 13, 2012

Advent Horizon posted:

Skagway lifts everything off the barge with cranes now.

Laaaame

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Some days you get lucky.

Today was that day.

LimaBiker
Dec 9, 2020




For a while, the Netherlands held the record of the longest *passenger* train in the world. A single bog standard 1600 locomotive was used (1,5kV, 4600kw, DC traction motors with thyristor choppers), with type ICR carriages. (length over buffers 26,4m)

It is a really weird sight to see such a long passenger train. Even freight trains aren't usually this long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeVN9nSxwDs

There were significant problems in getting this to work. Not relating to the tractive effort - the locomotive could handle it just fine. Braking, however, was a whole different story. Firstly, filling the whole train brake pipe took ages. But worse, at first they didn't manage to get the brake command to travel further downtrain than about 400m or 17 carriages... They don't usually pull more than 12 carriages. Neither the carriages nor the locomotive was designed to be able to brake such long trains.
They didn't find a way to solve that problem. However, they did manage to find a way to make the carriages go in emergency brake mode, with a very specific process:
- The electronic-pneumatic brake controller had to be in its hardest brake setting
- the emergency brake button had to be pushed
- An auxillary, manual emergency brake valve had to be fully opened.

This made the brake pipe empty with incredible speed, so the pressure wave would ripple through the whole train. This was a viable way to get the train stopped in case of emergency. In the test, the pressure shock waves bouncing through the continuous air line were big enough to make some brakes actually start to brake again, for a very short while as the shock wave passed.
They had to pull a lot of strings to make sure the whole route of the train through the country, would be guaranteed to have green signals. This was quite a big thing, because the dutch main rail net is incredibly busy. Busy enough to occasionally create a traffic jam if things go wrong in rush hour.

If you're dutch (or use google translate), here's a very nice and long report by a train driver about the whole event: http://www.feijenoordsemeesters.nl/LRtW/index.html

LimaBiker fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Jul 7, 2021

luminalflux
May 27, 2005



LimaBiker posted:

For a while, the Netherlands held the record of the longest *passenger* train in the world. A single bog standard 1600 locomotive was used (1,5kV, 4600kw, DC traction motors with thyristor choppers), with type ICR carriages. (length over buffers 26,4m)

It is a really weird sight to see such a long passenger train. Even freight trains aren't usually this long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeVN9nSxwDs

There were significant problems in getting this to work. Not relating to the tractive effort - the locomotive could handle it just fine. Braking, however, was a whole different story. Firstly, filling the whole train brake pipe took ages. But worse, at first they didn't manage to get the brake command to travel further downtrain than about 400m or 17 carriages... They don't usually pull more than 12 carriages. Neither the carriages nor the locomotive was designed to be able to brake such long trains.
They didn't find a way to solve that problem. However, they did manage to find a way to make the carriages go in emergency brake mode, with a very specific process:
- The electronic-pneumatic brake controller had to be in its hardest brake setting
- the emergency brake button had to be pushed
- An auxillary, manual emergency brake valve had to be fully opened.

This made the brake pipe empty with incredible speed, so the pressure wave would ripple through the whole train. This was a viable way to get the train stopped in case of emergency. In the test, the pressure shock waves bouncing through the continuous air line were big enough to make some brakes actually start to brake again, for a very short while as the shock wave passed.
They had to pull a lot of strings to make sure the whole route of the train through the country, would be guaranteed to have green signals. This was quite a big thing, because the dutch main rail net is incredibly busy. Busy enough to occasionally create a traffic jam if things go wrong in rush hour.

If you're dutch (or use google translate), here's a very nice and long report by a train driver about the whole event: http://www.feijenoordsemeesters.nl/LRtW/index.html

ok but how long was the train

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

luminalflux posted:

ok but how long was the train

Erg lang.

1601.58m

Cactus Ghost
Dec 20, 2003

you can actually inflate your scrote pretty safely with sterile saline, syringes, needles, and aseptic technique. its a niche kink iirc

the saline just slowly gets absorbed into your blood but in the meantime you got a big round smooth distended nutsack

joat mon posted:

Erg lang.

1601.58m

that's 5,209ft for north american railroaders

that is indeed one long-rear end passenger train

monsterzero
May 12, 2002
-=TOPGUN=-
Boys who love airplanes :respek: Boys who love boys
Lipstick Apathy

OMGVBFLOL posted:

that's 5,209ft for north american railroaders

that is indeed one long-rear end passenger train
Indeed.


WTF Did it service three station simultaneously when it finally stopped?

LimaBiker
Dec 9, 2020




Wtf, i swear i wrote down the length of the train. Oh well. 60 carriages, each 26,4m over buffers, and a locomotive. So heel erg lang.


monsterzero posted:

WTF Did it service three station simultaneously when it finally stopped?

I looked to see if it was possible, but best i can do is service 3 stations with a single train movement! I don't think there's any place here that has 3 stations within 1600m.

Amsterdam:


Purmerend:


Distance measurement is not totally accurate, i put it to the side of the rail line on the map to make it easier to see the route and stations.

Edit: Ooh, we also once had the world's longest city tram, on 7 april 1990:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U32VJtg8J8k&t=617s

Total mass 184 ton, length 158m. Not extremely long, but it looks quite silly in the narrow streets of Amsterdam. For some reason they chose to use only one tram to pull the whole thing. Not bad for a total power of about 200kw.
In the end, they snapped a coupler and the tram couldn't continue to the destination as one piece.

LimaBiker fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Jul 8, 2021

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
What was the point? Just a commuter train that filled up from one end or something? Seems way more inefficient than just having another train.

I have been on trains in the UK which were too long for the platform but the doors unlocked anyway, so the driver was very careful to announce over the tannoy which doors to get out of so you didn't fall onto the embankment.

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




MikeCrotch posted:

What was the point? Just a commuter train that filled up from one end or something? Seems way more inefficient than just having another train.

I have been on trains in the UK which were too long for the platform but the doors unlocked anyway, so the driver was very careful to announce over the tannoy which doors to get out of so you didn't fall onto the embankment.

what was the point of having the longest passenger train ever?

i'm gonna guess: have the longest passenger train ever.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Sounds like an infrequent train to relocate accumulated rolling stock to me.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.
150th anniversary of Dutch Rail.

The record was broken by the Belgians a couple years later, as a fundraiser for cancer research.

duomo
Oct 9, 2007




Soiled Meat
Does India actually run any passenger trains that come close to using the full platform at those stations that have 1200m platforms?

LimaBiker
Dec 9, 2020




Jonny Nox posted:

what was the point of having the longest passenger train ever?

i'm gonna guess: have the longest passenger train ever.

Yep.
It was a '150 years of dutch rail' event.

It wasn't very practical cause it couldn't brake 'regularly' (either full emergency, or nothing, no other options (except for the tiny bit of dynamic braking) and the locomotive's electric system could only supply power for the heaters of the first 17 carriages.
They solved the brake problem by throwing off the schedules of all other trains, and give this train guaranteed green signals on the whole trip. Stopping the long train would mean having it sit for 15 or 30 minutes or whatever to get the brakes back up to pressure, and to occupy 2 or 3 blocks of track while it's sitting there, causing serious traffic jams on the rail.
So it was never intended as a means of travel, just a 'hey, let's do something spectacular'.

They had 900 people aboard of the first 17 carriages - the rest of them only had some staff in them to help with the technical side of things (like making sure the rat tailing/bumping on acceleration wasn't too violent, see if the brake command reaches the carriage etc)

uvar
Jul 25, 2011

Avoid breathing
radioactive dust.
College Slice
This is pretty unimportant, but I figure if anyone would know it would be here.

Channel-surfing on youtube got me to a video about Broad Street Station and the North London Railway. There's a shot of the NLR logo coat of arms at about 40 seconds in. There's a high-res photo of the same thing at, for example, https://www.gwra.co.uk/auctions/north-london-railway-mounted-crest-company-coat-ar-2019apr-0381.html.

What is going on in the bottom-right segment, the sailing ship mounted on a huge brick arch?

duomo
Oct 9, 2007




Soiled Meat
It’s the Hibbert Gate

uvar
Jul 25, 2011

Avoid breathing
radioactive dust.
College Slice
Ah! Thank you very much.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Some days you get lucky, part 2

Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010

I visited a rather large "model" railroad last weekend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ5jqqD9G_w

VideoGameVet
May 14, 2005

It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion. It is by the juice of Java that pedaling acquires speed, the teeth acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion.

Disgruntled Bovine posted:

I visited a rather large "model" railroad last weekend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ5jqqD9G_w

How are they powered (the two different gauges)?

Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010

The locomotives they ran while I was there mostly had gas engines with hydraulic transmissions. On the train I rode the lead unit had the engine while the second unit was a slug getting hydraulic power from the first unit.

The larger 15" gauge train was also gas but it had a big 4 cylinder Winton engine I believe.

There were a couple live steam engines there as well but unfortunately neither was fired up.

VideoGameVet
May 14, 2005

It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion. It is by the juice of Java that pedaling acquires speed, the teeth acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion.

Disgruntled Bovine posted:

The locomotives they ran while I was there mostly had gas engines with hydraulic transmissions. On the train I rode the lead unit had the engine while the second unit was a slug getting hydraulic power from the first unit.

The larger 15" gauge train was also gas but it had a big 4 cylinder Winton engine I believe.

There were a couple live steam engines there as well but unfortunately neither was fired up.

It’s so drat impressive. Really loved that video. The bridge and trestle work was just outstanding.

Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010

Last weekend I went up to the Wiscasset, Waterville & Farmington railway museum for a photo charter and got some really good footage of the three operating Maine 2-footer narrow gauge locomotives running together. From a quality perspective I think this may be the best video I've made yet, even if the Big Boy footage was more compelling. This is a pretty neat little operation, they've rebuilt more than 3 miles of the line on the original right-of-way over the past 30 years. A lot of progress has been made in the past 10 years and they just opened a new section of the line with a 3% grade and a partially enclosed bridge. Unfortunately they probably won't be extending the line any further because they'd have to cross a state highway to do so. That said, they'll be refocusing their efforts on equipment restoration and they announced while I was there that they will be restoring two additional steam locomotives (#4 & #8) to operation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCB2jBl87d0

If you're ever up in Maine on a Saturday (or some Sundays) I highly recommend checking it out.

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

SAVE THE BEES
PLANT MORE TREES
CLEAN THE SEAS
KISS TITTIESS




From the schadenfreude thread:

https://mobile.twitter.com/WashletJP/status/1423881474579734533

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

zoom-zoom
Toilet Rascal
https://twitter.com/mayama_kodomo/status/1423486325353709569?s=20
lol

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014



hero

ssb
Feb 16, 2006

WOULD YOU ACCOMPANY ME ON A BRISK WALK? I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH YOU!!


I can't understand anything being said, but those gnkkaaaaa noises transcend language.

Beautiful.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

This guy fucks.

Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010

This man has strong opinions on the PRR.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3K5-GOtku0

Edit: gently caress, only viewable on youtube. Go there, it's worth it.

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

zoom-zoom
Toilet Rascal
I don't know what's happening but lol?

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Disgruntled Bovine posted:

This man has strong opinions on the PRR.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3K5-GOtku0

Edit: gently caress, only viewable on youtube. Go there, it's worth it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP9D1e0cH_U

I WOULD RATHER HAVE A MOTHERFUCKING SISTER WORKING IN A WHOREHOUSE THAN A BROTHER WORKING FOR THE PENNSYLVANIA RAILROAD!

Syrian Lannister
Aug 25, 2007

Oh, did I kill him too?
I've been a very busy little man.


Sugartime Jones
He likes the horseshoe curve too

https://youtu.be/xAutOhQQbg4

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
Slippery Tilde
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAEafnwZGfM

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer

Syrian Lannister posted:

He likes the horseshoe curve too

https://youtu.be/xAutOhQQbg4

He needs to play Archie Bunker on a Netflix remake of "All in the Family".

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Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof

Otteration posted:

He needs to play Archie Bunker on a Netflix remake of "All in the Family".

"All in the Penn Central"

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