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Umbra Dubium posted:I mean really, "What If Thor Shaved?"; that's your big alternate timeline, Marvel?! He's called "Party Thor" in promotional material, and it seems like the deviation (nexus?) point is "What if Odin never punished Thor" i.e. what if he never had to learn to be worthy.
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Reminds me. To all the other Lokis hanging at the end of time, the protagonist is just Office Loki.
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Jul 9, 2021 01:17
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So if Classic Loki is sad old lonely Loki does that make what he's wearing an Asgardian track suit?
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Jul 9, 2021 01:22
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Its Rinaldo posted:So if Classic Loki is sad old lonely Loki does that make what he's wearing an Asgardian track suit? Here's hoping the series ends with Loki strapping on his Fine Asgardian New Balances and mowing the lawn while Sylvie makes Baby Loki and Baby Loki some breakfast
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Jul 9, 2021 01:26
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Cage Kicker posted:Here's hoping the series ends with Loki strapping on his Fine Asgardian New Balances and mowing the lawn while Sylvie makes Baby Loki and Baby Loki some breakfast You mean Kid Loki and Gator Loki?
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Jul 9, 2021 01:56
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Cage Kicker posted:Here's hoping the series ends with Loki strapping on his Fine Asgardian New Balances and mowing the lawn while Sylvie makes Baby Loki and Baby Loki some breakfast Season 2 is Wandavision but everyone is Loki and 1 Mobius.
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Jul 9, 2021 01:57
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Thankfully RDJs arc is dead after the last avengers . He doesn’t work very well in modern times
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Jul 9, 2021 01:58
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Nail Rat posted:Also if they didn't get RDJ back to voice Tony Stark (sure doesn't sound like him) that's a bummer. Not like they'd need a lot of his time for VA for a half hour episode. Now that they've opened the "any different actor playing a role is a multiverse variant" door, it's probably easier to justify why this version of Stark sounds off. Which I guess also implies that half of the Phase 1 movies got pruned, thanks to Rhodey, Banner, and Fandral.
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Jul 9, 2021 01:59
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Alchenar posted:The actress is fine they just aren't using her well. In a show that's trying to be all about 'is it possible to change who you are?' her character exists to say 'no' and specifically she's the opposite side of the coin to Mobius. Where she is interacting with Owen Wilson it's all fantastic, right up to the climax where he's giving on up the TVA and she's so threatened by that that she cuts him off. I don't think the "dump exposition" thing is true. Renslayer was dumping exposition to lull Sylvia into waiting for more exposition to be dumped on the BS "time ship" to buy time for other TVA agents to get there. As far as Renslayer's motives and mindset go, I think the revelation about the Timekeepers has shaken her and made her feel like a bit of a fool. However, she's not quite as ready as B-15 (or possibly Mobius) to toss the TVA down a rathole. Sylvie noted that Hunter C-20s memories of being Margarita Girl were centuries old. So C-20 presumably spent a lot of time working for the TVA. How long must Renslayer have spent to rise to the rank of Judge? And she has a really nice office. And those trophies look cool. Also, let's do remember that as fun and charismatic that Sophia Di Martino and Tom Hiddleston are as "Lokis in (denial of being in) love", Di Martino's Sylvie is still the person from the end of episode one who lured some TVA agents to an oil field and burned them alive. And she has been doing poo poo like that for a while. So, it's not that hard to understand why Renslayer would be less-than-immediately willing to join Team "That loving bitch who murdered a bunch of my friends and co-workers"
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Jul 9, 2021 02:15
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Everyone posted:As far as Renslayer's motives and mindset go, I think the revelation about the Timekeepers has shaken her and made her feel like a bit of a fool. However, she's not quite as ready as B-15 (or possibly Mobius) to toss the TVA down a rathole. Sylvie noted that Hunter C-20s memories of being Margarita Girl were centuries old. So C-20 presumably spent a lot of time working for the TVA. How long must Renslayer have spent to rise to the rank of Judge? And she has a really nice office. And those trophies look cool. I'm not saying they're going to do some big reveal or anything since (Quantumania spoilers) Smollett is making his debut in Quantumania and it would break Marvel protocol for everyone but Thanos to seed a new villain directly this far in advance in what is ultimately a side property but it's also much more plausibly on the table because they're filming Quantumania right now and thus presumably have a script/story worked out and it'd be pretty easy to just have it all reference her "boyfriend" who is one bad mamma jamma and just vacated their vacation spot at the End of Time to escape.
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Jul 9, 2021 02:28
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Everyone posted:Also, let's do remember that as fun and charismatic that Sophia Di Martino and Tom Hiddleston are as "Lokis in (denial of being in) love", Di Martino's Sylvie is still the person from the end of episode one who lured some TVA agents to an oil field and burned them alive. And she has been doing poo poo like that for a while. So, it's not that hard to understand why Renslayer would be less-than-immediately willing to join Team "That loving bitch who murdered a bunch of my friends and co-workers" Hah, CLASSIC Loki prank!
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Jul 9, 2021 02:38
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Everyone posted:Also, let's do remember that as fun and charismatic that Sophia Di Martino and Tom Hiddleston are as "Lokis in (denial of being in) love", Di Martino's Sylvie is still the person from the end of episode one who lured some TVA agents to an oil field and burned them alive. And she has been doing poo poo like that for a while. So, it's not that hard to understand why Renslayer would be less-than-immediately willing to join Team "That loving bitch who murdered a bunch of my friends and co-workers"
It's perfectly plausible why someone would join her, which is why it's so immediately understandable when Mobius does. Then apologizes for his role in her life afterwards. Hunter B-15 joined her pretty quick too, once she realized she was living a lie. tsob fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Jul 9, 2021 |
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Jul 9, 2021 02:53
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mind the walrus posted:RDJ gets to name his price as Tony Stark. Always has. The fact that Disney's massive resource pool could only apparently source Great Value RDJ is hard proof of how hard he is to mimic, and that scarcity translates to a high loving paycheck. And eventually Disney will pay for it, but not until they really feel a project needs a major boost, the way they shilled out $17 million to help cement Spider-Man: Homecoming. The inverse of that was RDJ apparently wanted to guest star on Agents of S.H.E.I.L.D. and would work for scale to do it, and Disney told him no.
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Jul 9, 2021 03:04
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nine-gear crow posted:The inverse of that was RDJ apparently wanted to guest star on Agents of S.H.E.I.L.D. and would work for scale to do it, and Disney told him no.
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Jul 9, 2021 03:08
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XboxPants posted:Hah, CLASSIC Loki prank! The Loki holo-rewind montage shows the scene where he drills into some dude's eyeball. Loki's harsh, man.
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Jul 9, 2021 03:09
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Nail Rat posted:Wouldn't a lot of people get sick if half of all the bacteria in their bodies suddenly died? I thought that at first, too, but then figured that if the bacteria inside each snapped person also disappeared with them, there's your 50% of gut bacteria biomass. It almost certainly did result in some completely collapsed biomes, though.
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Jul 9, 2021 03:24
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They need to have the big bad in the castle be Bicycle Loki.
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Jul 9, 2021 03:25
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tsob posted:
Renslayer is TVA to the core. She fully believes in what they stand for. She doesn't care about any of the things you listed. Sylvie is just one more uppity Variant to be pruned.
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Jul 9, 2021 03:35
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The Loki Simpsons special just made me want to watch Classic Simpsons instead of whatever that was. Would've worked just fine as a series of wallpapers released on social media tbh
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Jul 9, 2021 04:01
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Everyone posted:I don't think the "dump exposition" thing is true. Renslayer was dumping exposition to lull Sylvia into waiting for more exposition to be dumped on the BS "time ship" to buy time for other TVA agents to get there.
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Jul 9, 2021 04:09
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Ignis posted:The Loki Simpsons special just made me want to watch Classic Simpsons instead of whatever that was. Would've worked just fine as a series of wallpapers released on social media tbh yeah it was nice to listen to more Hiddleston but that was some dumb television, feel bad for the animators who had to do it for mcu purposes though this shot of the "springfield avengers" appears to show Maggie as tinkerbell 
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Jul 9, 2021 04:13
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DukeofCA posted:
Oh, no, I'm completely Team Sylvie as far as why she did what she did. Perfectly understandable and justifiable. But as DukeofCA noted, Renslayer doesn't really care why Sylvie did what she did. She just cares that Sylvie did it and I can understand that viewpoint as well. As far as B-15 and Mobius are concerned. I kind of get B-15. She's a person who was devoted to the TVA under false pretenses and once that falsehood was revealed, she turned 180 degrees against them. With Mobius I'm not sure I totally buy his "burn the TVA to the ground" bit completely. He's an analyst. He's going to want to figure out who or what is behind the TVA and why they're doing what they're doing. It wouldn't surprise me to see him working with Renslayer to do that. Though hopefully his time with the Lokis will have prepared him to counter her "sudden but inevitable betrayal." Meanwhile, Renslayer is TVA to the core, but she's TVA to the core. She's not necessarily person-behind-the-robot-Timekeepers to the core. Which is why she wants to find out who that person is and what they really want. And whatever BS she fed to Ms. Minutes, she's probably not trying to find that person just to protect them from the "Lokis"
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DukeofCA posted:Renslayer is TVA to the core. She fully believes in what they stand for. She doesn't care about any of the things you listed. Sylvie is just one more uppity Variant to be pruned. Renslayer is a cop.
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Jul 9, 2021 04:47
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The Saddest Rhino posted:yeah it was nice to listen to more Hiddleston but that was some dumb television, feel bad for the animators who had to do it Ooof. A "joke" that's that shallow, and they still feel the need to have someone holding a sign explaining the joke. I know making GBS threads on modern simpsons is just as tired as the show itself, but this really deserves it. Well, at least RalpHulk is kinda fun/cute.
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Jul 9, 2021 05:14
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I think we need this. https://twitter.com/SadMeganGirls/status/1412985256056168449
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Jul 9, 2021 08:10
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mind the walrus posted:Willing to bet dollars to donuts that was tied directly to the Perlmutter power struggles. Can you imagine the utopia we'd live in if Ike Perlmutter hosed off decades ago. I read recently that he said recasting Terence Howard to Don Cheadle would work because "all black people look the same" and he was cheaper, so he was obviously a toxic influence from the start of the MCU. He was also a large financial backer of the trump campaign and a senior advisor. Also RDJ being in AoS would make it unadvoidably canon and we could've had Fitzsimmons in Wandavision and Mack giving advice to Sam in FATWS 
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Jul 9, 2021 08:37
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BurritoJustice posted:Also RDJ being in AoS would make it unadvoidably canon and we could've had Fitzsimmons in Wandavision and Mack giving advice to Sam in FATWS SMJ's been in more MCU films than RDJ and his presence didn't make AoS much more canon  Except in my heart, where it remains the sacred timeline.
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Jul 9, 2021 08:42
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The Chris Hemsworth Shark Show is alright. No crocodiles though.
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Jul 9, 2021 08:59
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BurritoJustice posted:Can you imagine the utopia we'd live in if Ike Perlmutter hosed off decades ago. I read recently that he said recasting Terence Howard to Don Cheadle would work because "all black people look the same" and he was cheaper, so he was obviously a toxic influence from the start of the MCU. I mean it worked out for the best in this one singular instance. Terence Howard loving suuuuuuucked in Iron Man 1 and imagining the rest of the MCU with him as Rhodey sends shivers down my spine whereas Don Cheadle commands your attention every second he's on screen even when he's not doing anything, he's that charismatic.
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nine-gear crow posted:I mean it worked out for the best in this one singular instance. Terence Howard loving suuuuuuucked in Iron Man 1 and imagining the rest of the MCU with him as Rhodey sends shivers down my spine whereas Don Cheadle commands your attention every second he's on screen even when he's not doing anything, he's that charismatic. Howard didn't suck, he just played the character completely different. Cheadle's Rhodey is a lot harder than Howard's, which works as the military stooge he's shown as being but also Howard sold their friendship better in the first movie better than Cheadle did in five.
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Jul 9, 2021 09:23
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Isn't Howard some nutter that refuses to acknowledge 1+1=2 or 1*1=1 or some other basic math thing
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live with fruit posted:Howard didn't suck, he just played the character completely different. Cheadle's Rhodey is a lot harder than Howard's, which works as the military stooge he's shown as being but also Howard sold their friendship better in the first movie better than Cheadle did in five. There's a smattering of moments in the first Iron Man where Howard really comes alive, yes, and they're all directly connected to RDJ, but by and large to me it felt like he was just phoning it in most of the time because it was just some generic C-Tier comic book movie that didn't even really have a script and they were improvising their way through and nobody knew how successful it was going to be or what it would launch in the moment so he just kind of sleepwalked through it. nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 09:33 on Jul 9, 2021 |
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Ash1138 posted:kinda strange that miss minutes was the one who came up with the bs timeship and renslayer ran with it. i wonder if the scene in ep1 or 2 where loki asks what the heck she is while swatting at the hologram with a rolled magazine wasn't foreshadowing something sinister about her. if miss minutes cursed like a sailor, she'd fit right into the cast of glengarry glen ross YES! I noticed that too, and it’s really interesting that Miss Minutes has agency like that. She’s been presented before now as being like a free-floating Clippy, but apparently there’s actual intelligence there too. Definitely more than meets the eye (but she’s probably not a transformer) with her, and I’m intrigued to see more about that. Maybe season 2?
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Jul 9, 2021 10:10
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I just can't see Terrance Howard as Warmachine, not at all.
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Jul 9, 2021 12:15
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I have a hard time picturing Howard in IM3 and especially in Civil War but Rhodey taking the suit in IM2 would've hit harder because Cheadle seems more like Tony's handler than his friend.
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Im more then happy that Howard isnt playing War Machine. In February 2009, it was reported on The Smoking Gun that Howard was arrested in 2001 for a variety of charges related to a violent attack on his estranged first wife, including simple assault, terrorist threats, harassment and stalking. According to police reports, he arrived at her house after an argument on the phone, forced entry into her home by breaking in doors, and chased her into the backyard where he punched her twice in the face with a closed fist. The violent attack ended when Howard's brother stepped in. In 2002, he pleaded guilty to disturbing the peace.[40] According to The Smoking Gun, Howard was also arrested for assaulting a Continental Airlines flight attendant after refusing her request to return to his seat because the seat belt sign was on.[41] On December 5, 2011, a judge granted Howard's then-wife Michelle Ghent a restraining order based on her claims that Howard had caused her physical injuries that required medical attention, once broke her computer in half, repeatedly threatened her, and stalked her by telephone and on the Internet.[42] In August 2013, Ghent obtained a second restraining order against him after showing up in court with a black eye she says he gave her.[43] In a September 2015 interview with Rolling Stone, Howard admitted to hitting his first wife in 2001 saying, "she was talking to me real strong, and I lost my mind and slapped her in front of the kids."[44]
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I'm not saying I like Howard, and Cheadle was a great change. Terence has only gone further off the deep end since then while Cheadle is a wholesome, progressive dude (protect trans kids!). Just illustrating that Perlmutter was already making production calls based on racism/sexism at the very start of the MCU. He's a vile man.
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yeah howard is an example of accidentally getting to a good outcome (because that guy is an abusive nightmare) but through the worst possible means and motives, you do not gotta hand it to them, etc
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Jul 9, 2021 14:18
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Wasn't the Howard replacement driven by contract disputes over him wanting to renegotiate for co-billing and closer compensation to RDJ after Iron Man was a hit? I wouldn't say that is the "worst possible means and motives" or Ike Perlmutter being racist. I don't think Cheadle is a more "racist" choice than Howard or that any actor would get Marvel to let them out of their contract and negotiate a new contract where they got paid as much as RDJ.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Wasn't the Howard replacement driven by contract disputes over him wanting to renegotiate for co-billing and closer compensation to RDJ after Iron Man was a hit? Yeah, he jumped ship because they wouldn’t pay him what he wanted which if I recall correctly he actually didn’t ask for much, relatively, as he only asked for the amount someone he felt would be paid for being a big part of the movie. I don’t remember him asking to be paid as much as RDJ. Also I feel like we have the technology now, and maybe Disney wouldn’t be apposed to paying for it, but couldn’t Marvel redo some of Iron Man with just replacing scenes with Howard in them with Cheadle?
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