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Josie I love you like a brother but you are not the best at recognising dogwhistles
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Jul 9, 2021 14:13
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All Lads Lives Matter it's comin home
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Jul 9, 2021 14:19
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I think a lot of fans are just a bit tired of the whole ‘all England fans are violent abusive louts’ thing that’s going around a lot at the moment.
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Jul 9, 2021 14:26
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Thank you, for being one of the good ones.
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Jul 9, 2021 14:27
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Jose posted:or they just don't think domestic abuse is particularly common to poor people It's this by the way, immediately jumping from some football fans beat their partners if their team loses to talking about people council estates, was an interesting leap I though was worth pointing out. domestic abuse cuts across all areas & demographics, not just council estates. learnincurve posted:They are being all “not all football fans” when it’s a known phenomenon that domestic abuse goes up after teams lose big matches Shouldn't be hard to back that up with something then? There's lots of 'well known phenomenon' banded around online, that's total bunk. I have previously shared the 'bad results = increase in DA' posts until someone showed me the source was complete b.s. If there's something credible you can cite happy to take it. learnincurve posted:“They” being super chuffing weird and dismissing domestic abuse. at no point do I do that, and if we've got to the 'you love Domestic abuse' stage of bad faith lets not bother.
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Jul 9, 2021 14:37
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tbh i hope england loses because the english are supposed to lose. they're very good comical villains, and that makes the thought of england winning intolerable.
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Jul 9, 2021 14:38
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England winning would be funnier than any other outcome so I hope it comes home
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Jul 9, 2021 14:42
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You can probably cherry pick any stat to fill a narrative following an event with a large interest, hth
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Jul 9, 2021 14:49
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Continuity RCP posted:England winning would be funnier than any other outcome so I hope it comes home
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Jul 9, 2021 15:01
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i've got my england vest and my can of stella bring on the wives
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Jul 9, 2021 15:03
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England wins but has to pay for the trophy to go through customs
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Jul 9, 2021 15:06
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Looke posted:i've got my england vest and my can of stella my wife would destroy me in the field of combat, just utterly annihilate every fibre of my being with rapid strikes and powerful sweeping kicks
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Jul 9, 2021 15:50
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Raskolnikov38 posted:my suspicion is that golf is the only regularly broadcasted sport without an accompanying rise in violence not a chance in hell that's true, people still gamble on golf. NinpoEspiritoSanto posted:You can probably cherry pick any stat to fill a narrative following an event with a large interest, hth well hello bundy how are you? it's been too long pal!
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JoylessJester posted:There's lots of 'well known phenomenon' banded around online, that's total bunk. I have previously shared the 'bad results = increase in DA' posts until someone showed me the source was complete b.s. If there's something credible you can cite happy to take it. That original NFL/superb-owl stat was actually that abuse only went up when the team won; I think being counterintuitive is why it became a pop culture thing that people still reference 30 years later. There's a more recent UK based study which is the one usually cited in the pre-tournament media articles on the topic: https://www.lancaster.ac.uk/news/articles/2014/world-cup-football-is-a-risk-factor-for-domestic-violence/. It found: quote:After controlling for day of the week, incidents of domestic abuse rose by 38 per cent in Lancashire when the England team played and lost and increased by 26 per cent when the England national team played and won or drew compared with days when there was no England match. There was also a carry-over effect, with incidents of domestic abuse 11% higher the day after an England match. This study also looked at police stats: https://rss.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1740-9713.2012.00606.x One thing that stood out was that there was no change in abuse when England drew, only for wins or losses. There's also a few limited studies of police reports in Scotland looking at specific things like Old Firm matches that have also found links, eg https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/2158244013504207 This study from this year has the biggest dataset and is the most interesting. It finds that the increase is specifically alcohol fuelled (other types of abuse were unchanged) and they found an effect when England won, but not for loses or draws.. quote:To explore the role of alcohol in the link between football and domestic abuse, we analysed ten years’ worth of crime data from the second largest police force in England (West Midlands Police). We focused on English national football team matches (World Cups and UEFA Euro Championships) in this period. Our results show a 47% increase in the number of reported alcohol-related domestic abuse cases on days when the England team wins in these tournaments, and an 18% increase on days after an England match. We found no increase in the number of non-alcohol-related domestic abuse cases on England match days. In fact, when we look at the exact time pattern of the England win effect we see that the increase in the number of alcohol-related cases starts in the three-hour period of the match, peaks in the next three-hour period, and then gradually declines to its original levels in the 24-hour period after the match. This pattern is highly consistent with the effect of prolonged alcohol-fuelled celebrations following an England victory. They also found an increase in other non-DA violent crime and again only for England wins. As a comparison they looked at times when England playing Rugby Union matches and there was no effect. For context the increase is about half that seen at Christmas. The whole of the discussion section is worth a read if you're interested in the issue.
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dispatch_async posted:Effort Post Thanks for all of these links, the last couple seem particularly interesting! Cheers.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:It should disqualify the team. Only if they're English.
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Jul 9, 2021 16:21
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CoolCab posted:well hello bundy how are you? it's been too long pal! Good ta, allowing myself to enjoy the football instead of being a soured doomaddled moron about it! I trust you're well
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Jul 9, 2021 16:22
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What happened here? https://mobile.twitter.com/delismurf/status/1413515946430369794
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Jul 9, 2021 16:31
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stronk kief
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NinpoEspiritoSanto posted:Good ta, allowing myself to enjoy the football instead of being a soured doomaddled moron about it! I trust you're well hockey man meself but i'm glad you're having a good time 
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Jul 9, 2021 16:34
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Relevant Tangent posted:Only if they're English. These days...
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Jul 9, 2021 16:35
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Crowsbeak posted:What happened here? https://mobile.twitter.com/delismurf/status/1413515946430369794 It's a council by-election, they are notoriously swingy. Unlike the last two major by-elections Labour hosed up, that is.
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Jul 9, 2021 16:41
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Jakabite posted:I think a lot of fans are just a bit tired of the whole ‘all England fans are violent abusive louts’ thing that’s going around a lot at the moment. By at the moment do you mean since the inception of sports?
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Jul 9, 2021 16:48
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Island of inebriated gammons surprisingly touchy.
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Darth Walrus posted:https://twitter.com/marinanigrelli/status/1413412390864044033?s=21 well that's not very hygge now, is it?
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Jul 9, 2021 16:58
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hold on a minute, lambda variant? aren't we missing a few?
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Nah. Every variant gets a name, the ones between Delta and Lambda are such minute variants that you've never heard of them.
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Crowsbeak posted:What happened here? https://mobile.twitter.com/delismurf/status/1413515946430369794 The worst thing about Batley and Spen is that the Galloway mob are a little bit more insufferable now
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Private Speech posted:It's a council by-election, they are notoriously swingy. Labour has had a suspiciously long and consistent streak of bad council elections, though.
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Darth Walrus posted:Labour has had a suspiciously long and consistent streak of bad council elections, though. its only suspicious if you don't think labour councils are loving shite
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Relevant Tangent posted:By at the moment do you mean since the inception of sports? No I mean it’s particularly bad at the moment
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Minicurve has a theory that it’s older gammons with very poor chants and bad behaviour we see at the matches these days because ticket scalpers running bots and scams are inflating the prices to the point where only silly gammon prepared to pay any price can afford to go. You really don’t see as many normal people with kids in the stands as you used to so she’s got a point.
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Continuity RCP posted:The worst thing about Batley and Spen is that the Galloway mob are a little bit more insufferable now Imagining the Galloway mob as George and like 5 of his mates in a car driving round in pinstripe suits ruining local elections like the lads out of the wacky races
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Jakabite posted:Yes, the English people who don't like football or the national team are the whiniest motherfuckers on earth right now. Then it's everyone else. Then it's us supporters of Gareth and the lads, who are all legends having a great time. for a leftist you sound lot like a nationalist. wonder why that is
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Continuity RCP posted:The worst thing about Batley and Spen is that the Galloway mob are a little bit more insufferable now How, what did they even do?
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