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Luckily, I live on the east coast and there is a pretty nice charging infrastructure down the highways here, and eve have two downtown in my rural neighborhood in Connecticut. Anytime I need to make a long trip that isn't just down the coast, I'll either drive or take my fiance's Elantra. I am all in on the electric.
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LRADIKAL posted:https://www.tomsguide.com/news/tesla-hatchback-dollar25k-price-release-date-possible-range-and-more They're saying 2 years to release, in Tesla Time (TM) that's probably actually 3-4 years, which is about when I expected to reconsider whether to go from PHEV to full EV, so that would likely be in my consideration.
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Jul 9, 2021 00:44
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Powershift posted:
Are these actually on sale yet, or this still in the "we're here, trust us!" phase? I can't even find any videos of real people driving these in the US.
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GoutPatrol posted:Are these actually on sale yet, or this still in the "we're here, trust us!" phase? I can't even find any videos of real people driving these in the US. I know they had a lot full of them in Texas last year. I don't know if they've actually figured out how to properly sell them.
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GoutPatrol posted:Are these actually on sale yet, or this still in the "we're here, trust us!" phase? I can't even find any videos of real people driving these in the US. Here's one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrVGTzM81L8
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Jul 9, 2021 02:26
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I'm going to drive the Niro EV from Carlsbad to Idyllwild next week. It's only 92 miles but it's a climb. Very unclear (even with the apps) what charging stations are there, I see mention of one Tesla setup with a separate 220v and 110v charger.
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Jul 9, 2021 05:23
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We got a Pacifica PHEV last month and it's been awesome so far. We have a daily commute that's about 20 miles so for that we use all electric, every day since I had a nema 14-50 installed and we bought an upgraded charger (full charge takes about 2 hours). We've taken one long-ish trip to visit family and it performed great. We've had it almost 2 months and have used about 75% of a tank of gas. Feels good man.
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Jul 9, 2021 06:00
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VideoGameVet posted:I'm going to drive the Niro EV from Carlsbad to Idyllwild next week. Honestly, you could ask reddit electricvehicles if there's somebody who knows the area.
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Jul 9, 2021 06:19
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VideoGameVet posted:I'm going to drive the Niro EV from Carlsbad to Idyllwild next week. abrp seems to say a full round trip is possible on a full charge. is there some other complexity that makes you nervous?
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Jul 9, 2021 06:58
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Lifting the Niro’s weight a mile into the air takes takes almost eight kilowatt hours at perfect efficiency. Maybe ten after losses in the drivetrain are taken into account. Now, you should get most of that back on the way down, but if you lost sixteen percent of your real range, could you make the trip?
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Jul 9, 2021 10:27
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VideoGameVet posted:I'm going to drive the Niro EV from Carlsbad to Idyllwild next week. It's a big climb but it should be a piece of cake with 64 kWh fully charged. Looking at Plugshare, there's some J1772 and 50 kW you could route past on the way back so you have a bailout option. Once you've regen'ed to the bottom of the hill on the return it should be pretty clear if you need to worry about it or not.
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Speaking of, the ev subreddit is pretty good when it's not devolving into Tesla vs Volkswagen pissing or PHEV fearmongering. I'm a mod on the discord for it! All the subreddit mods basically hosed off so now I'm helping run an electric car discord vaguely attached to Reddit.  Here's an invite link if anyone wants to join, hopefully that's chill to share here? https://discord.gg/hd7PpEudjQ
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Westy543 posted:so now I'm helping run an electric car discord vaguely attached to Reddit. Why would you do this to yourself?
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Clearly, getting paid by big PHEV
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Fame Douglas posted:Clearly, getting paid by big PHEV Dammit, missed the edit.  Was gonna assign "big plug-in" as a nickname to undeserving parts of my anatomy.
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gwrtheyrn posted:Why would you do this to yourself? Honesty I ask myself this a lot. But mostly so I can toss weirdos.
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Ola posted:Dammit, missed the edit. I shouldn't have changed it. Especially considering I really detest the acronym "PHEV"
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I discovered today that I can switch my PHEV Ioniq into sport mode on the freeway, drop it down from 6th gear to 5th and it charges the battery really fast, despite not having an official "charge battery mode" like the Prius Prime. Like a mile of charge per 1-2 miles driven at 60mph. I did see my gas milage start to take a gigantic dump when I did that though, which isn't surprising. I guess one could use that if they're coming off of a road trip and have depleted their battery and want to charge it back up to have the more pleasant EV driving while in the city near their destination. Probably not going to do that again though. Kinda weird how it can charge the battery at something like a 9.6 kw rate while doing that, but the most it can do with its built in battery charger, when given 240v power and 40 amps, is about 3.12 kw.
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I'm going to assume a feature that wastes energy for no gain isn't something they would bother to advertise.
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Nitrousoxide posted:
That's not odd at all, AC charge rates are always limited by the size of the on onboard charger. My Leaf can only charge at 3.3kw from AC but will regen almost 30kw in ideal conditions.
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dissss posted:That's not odd at all, AC charge rates are always limited by the size of the on onboard charger. I guess it's an entirely different component doing the recharging while driving, the motor, so it's probably only limited by the power of the motor and what the BMS will accept.
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Jul 9, 2021 23:49
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DC->DC vs AC->DC. So it's more like plugging into Chademo.
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The motor’s still generating AC current but the inverter can handle more power than the onboard charger.
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Jul 10, 2021 01:08
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VideoGameVet posted:I'm going to drive the Niro EV from Carlsbad to Idyllwild next week. Plugshare says a few over by Fern Valley a little ways up the road, or at the Fireside Inn (lol $25 suggested donation). Also looks like you can hit Banning/Anza/Hemet before the Big Climb if it looks iffy. Like Ola said, Plugshare is your friend. I love Idyllwild and really want to hit it up in the Winter some day, but Snow Chains...
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Fame Douglas posted:I shouldn't have changed it. Especially considering I really detest the acronym "PHEV" partially hydro electric vehicle
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dissss posted:That's not odd at all, AC charge rates are always limited by the size of the on onboard charger. The second generation Prius could regen twenty kilowatts on one point three kilowatt‐hours of battery.
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There is a fairly steep grade nearly a mile long close to me. Set in L mode and in cruise control my Volt will regen at around 40kW for almost the entire length. Can sometimes get a whole kWh back, adding an entire bar back to battery gauge.
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Jul 10, 2021 04:37
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Y'all remember when gasoline started coming out that would clean your engine somehow? I want to get a jump on bringing this to EVs. Help me think of how to pitch this.
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Jul 10, 2021 05:38
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Okay, what if you had a big rear end fan in the ground to blow air up while you're L3 charging your LEAF, Marilyn Monroe style? I bet we could charge like 10¢/kWh extra for "charger thermal management".
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cruft posted:Y'all remember when gasoline started coming out that would clean your engine somehow? I want to get a jump on bringing this to EVs. Help me think of how to pitch this. Just rebrand audiophile stuff. Sell charging cables that deliver cleaner power with gold plated everything
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Powershift posted:Just rebrand audiophile stuff. Sell charging cables that deliver cleaner power with gold plated everything Monster Energy.
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Powershift posted:Just rebrand audiophile stuff. Sell charging cables that deliver cleaner power with gold plated everything Giant ferrite cores to put on your charging cable.
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Jul 10, 2021 06:13
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Sell Full Self-Driving that isn't actually full self-driving
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MomJeans420 posted:Sell Full Self-Driving that isn't actually full self-driving Nah, they’ll never fall for that.
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Electricity cleaner, in case you have dirty power
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Jul 10, 2021 07:02
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Pure quartz crystal EVSE cable stands. don't want stray capacitance affecting your charging. Only $995 each!
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Online UPS for virgin waveforms e: Wait I’ll bet we can sell someone a rotary converter. Reject transistors. Embrace tradition.
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Platystemon posted:e: Wait I’ll bet we can sell someone a rotary converter. Reject transistors. Embrace tradition. I was just thinking this. "Did you know your EV can charge from THREE phases? But your home electricity only has one, and it's split in half. You're only getting one sixth of the phases as a European EV owner would have. The Euro Rotary EV Phasor: BUY NOW!" edit: Patent Pending
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Kunabomber posted:Electricity cleaner, in case you have dirty power Make an entirely cosmetic box with a few small solar panels, say it converts your electricity to clean, renewable energy. Like the size of one of those solar cell phone cases.
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