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Coyote also had the red streak down his back, does he have his "strength"?
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Oxxidation posted:yes, but he lived He got better!
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Scholtz posted:Coyote also had the red streak down his back, does he have his "strength"? Coyote is only bound by rules if he remembers them and it suits him to do so.
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Wyld Karde posted:Coyote is only bound by rules if he remembers them and it suits him to do so. Oops! I forgot about that gravity thing you humans always go on about
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I'm more questioning whether him having it means Loup (or Ysengrin?) doesn't have it. Maybe this ends with Loup gone, a frail Ysengrin without ANY of Coyote's blessings (such as his
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Podima posted:Do notice that Coyote's tail is still connected to the ether beam whatsit, if you look carefully throughout the first three panels. Ooo good catch. Definitely missed that.
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catapede posted:Ooo good catch. Definitely missed that. Someone's tooth could solve that problem real easy I bet
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Scholtz posted:Coyote also had the red streak down his back, does he have his "strength"? This is a piece of himself he stored away in the lake water well before giving away his strength, so it makes sense this part of him would have it.
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Fecha posted:Coyote is the character I want to read an entire chapter of people talking about *monkey paw curls* Granted, but it's flashbacks where Ysengrin talks at length about how the way Coyote treats him is cool and good, actually.
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madjack posted:This is a piece of himself he stored away in the lake water well before giving away his strength, so it makes sense this part of him would have it. As far as I can tell, the last time Coyote popped out of Loup's head with the Goose Bone, the red stripe wasn't there.
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Kantesu posted:As far as I can tell, the last time Coyote popped out of Loup's head with the Goose Bone, the red stripe wasn't there. I had to go back and check and it looked like you were right until the second to last page he appeared on. It actually is there, but apparently only when he bothers to form himself into a proper body.
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Osmosisch posted:<-- We're all coyote Are we though?
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Falconer posted:Are we though?
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Wow Court you suck at everything. Also lol Annie hugging yet another monster parental figure. Bad habits die hard.
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I don't think we've seen her hug her dad
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Jul 12, 2021 09:07
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Uh.... has Annie forgotten about Coyote eating Ysengrin's brains for decades
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Jul 12, 2021 09:11
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I think Coyote has his stripe because this is a memory of him from before he gave away his strength.
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Jul 12, 2021 09:12
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Splicer posted:Uh.... has Annie forgotten about Coyote eating Ysengrin's brains for decades Regardless Annie, I know Loup makes Coyote look ultra dependable and trustworthy by comparison, but I'd lay off getting chummy with the chaos god who views the world as his toy chest. This whole Loup business reminds me of a kid taping firecrackers to their action figures 'to see what will happen'.
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Jul 12, 2021 09:18
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I would hug Coyote
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Tupperwarez posted:I think only the audience has seen Memory Orb Snack Time, nobody else. She did notice that something was terribly wrong with Ysengrin, but I don't think she knew the root cause. I actually wasn't sure and went to check but Loup told her when they first met. Although Annie might not have cared or forgotten I guess.
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Yeah, I also thought the hug was weird. Coyote is culpable for a lot here and I'm pretty sure Annie knows all about the memory eating and has definitely called out Coyote for abusing Ysengrin before. I get why we the audience would enjoy having Coyote back as a character but having Annie be this friendly with him when he's the architect of this mess and kind of...not nice is really, really off. Will this get highlighted? Who knows!
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All four of Annie's father figures are objectively awful and that won't stop her from loving every single one of them. And Coyote's the only one that hasn't nearly personally killed her.
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Mazerunner posted:I actually wasn't sure and went to check but Loup told her when they first met. Although Annie might not have cared or forgotten I guess. he did tell her: https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2020 but on the next page: https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2021
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Mazerunner posted:I actually wasn't sure and went to check but Loup told her when they first met. Although Annie might not have cared or forgotten I guess. The panel refers to the memory eating that the audience saw, but the words Loup says just imply Coyote was being manipulative, which is pretty normal for Coyote. She doesn't know the details.
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ronya posted:he did tell her: https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2020 https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2017 several pages before "coyote had been stealing ysengrin's thoughts for years"
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Macaluso posted:I would hug Coyote 
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Mazerunner posted:https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2017 Despite the word "stealing," the context makes it sound like Coyote was merely mind-reading - the emphasis is that Coyote knows what Ysengrin is thinking, not that memories are being deleted from Ysengrin's mind. I'd still say that even if Annie remembers this word-perfectly she's still woefully underinformed about the whole situation.
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Jul 12, 2021 13:52
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Back when we saw him at it it certainly seemed that Ysengrin lost the thoughts Coyote took.
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Personally I think it's believable that, bad guy or not, Coyote gets a hug because he's not goddamn Loup.
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ArcMage posted:Back when we saw him at it it certainly seemed that Ysengrin lost the thoughts Coyote took. That's definitely what literally happened, but the question is whether Annie would pick that up from Loup describing it. Honestly, though I think she's just relieved to be in the presence of someone she feels safe with. She has a long-standing habit of forgiving things she probably shouldn't for the sake of having a connection.
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Jul 12, 2021 14:03
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Didn't ysengrin outright confirm that coyote messes with his memories that time annie confronted him after he tried to kill her
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dragon enthusiast posted:Didn't ysengrin outright confirm that coyote messes with his memories that time annie confronted him after he tried to kill her good memory, though not quite https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1239 ysengrin said his mind his full of holes, but didn't blame coyote, more implied it was a failure on his own part.
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Yeah like, if Annie had a transcript of all the things Ysegrin and Coyote said about this she might be able to piece it all together, but she doesn't and is likely to just think some regular-grade Coyote-ing (manipulation etc) is going on and not horrible brain-eating poo poo.
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Macaluso posted:I would hug Coyote
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MikeJF posted:Personally I think it's believable that, bad guy or not, Coyote gets a hug because he's not goddamn Loup. Yep, hahaha. Tenebrais posted:Honestly, though I think she's just relieved to be in the presence of someone she feels safe with. She has a long-standing habit of forgiving things she probably shouldn't for the sake of having a connection. And this. I'm also believe Annie doesn't know Coyote took literal thoughts from Ysengrin. But even without that, Coyote is a huge, manipulative dick. I imagine he gets a lot of leeway since he's a literal god though, haha.
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The next 12 pages are Annie explaining to the camera that Coyote torturing Ysengrin was good actually
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Jul 12, 2021 16:48
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Macaluso posted:I would hug Coyote
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Splicer posted:The next 12 pages are Annie explaining to the camera that Coyote torturing Ysengrin was good actually Jones is there and says "Nice, you seem perfectly mentally stable."
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When someone asks you if you want to pet a God, you say yes
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Rereading those linked pages, I had completely forgotten about Ysengrin warning Annie about the Court: https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2027 "They mean to take you away!" Where to, though? For what purpose? Is it linked with whatever is going on with Zimmy that makes her think she is Annie when in the other dimension? (Like with Annie's hair color latching onto Zimmy like a pest in that one chapter and everything?)
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