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No idea, but the FT article makes the point that the Emiratis are mad about the fast normalization of relations between them and KSA.
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Afghan commandos battle Taliban for control of city as residents flee Heavy fighting in Qala-i-Naw, the capital of Badghis province, these last two days. The Afghan government has flown in hundreds of commandos to reinforce the defense, but the city is now surrounded.
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Atrocious Joe posted:the FBI helped the UAE locate Princess Latifa's boat in 2018, which led to her escape attempt failing the nostromo eh here is some footage 
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Taliban seize key Afghan border crossing with Iran Islam Qala is now in the hands of the Taliban. Afghan forces fled into Iran. Taliban visit Moscow to say their wins don't threaten Russia Taliban delegation arrived in Moscow today to offer assurances their advances in Afghanistan pose no threat to Russia or its allies in Central Asia. OhFunny has issued a correction as of 01:20 on Jul 9, 2021 |
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For whatever it's worth over the past six months or so my Hazara fiancé and her family have gone from terrified for family left in the country to "eh whatever" about the idea of the Taliban taking power. It'll suck but most don't seem to think there's any danger of a major shiite bloodletting any time soon.
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the US occupation has moderated the Taliban’s extremism…. an unqualified success!
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Zedhe Khoja posted:For whatever it's worth over the past six months or so my Hazara fiancé and her family have gone from terrified for family left in the country to "eh whatever" about the idea of the Taliban taking power. It'll suck but most don't seem to think there's any danger of a major shiite bloodletting any time soon. The Taliban is way more likely to destroy ISIS in Afghanistan than coalition forces ever were, and the vast majority of attacks on Hazara are done by ISIS or other sectarian hardliners. The Taliban is able to take power in regions they never could before 2001 because rule by the occupation government and their allies was just that odious.
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Atrocious Joe posted:congrats to the Taliban on the Blackhawks they will inevitably capture Special Report-Afghan pilots assassinated by Taliban as U.S. withdraws quote:Built in America's image, the Afghan Air Force is equipped with UH-60 Black Hawk helicopters and lumbering C-130H transport aircraft, neither of which Afghans know how to maintain, according to a Pentagon report released in April. Those aircraft are serviced by U.S.-funded contractors, which also handle most maintenance for the rest of the fleet, including A-29 Super Tucano light attack aircraft, AC-208 Eliminator planes and MD-530 helicopters, according to that report. That's a pretty big problem. Which the delivery of more equipment isn't going to solve. Especially with the pilots getting assassinated off base.
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Waiting for the day the CIA funnels Stingers to Afghani secularists
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do ISIS and the Taliban have beef over theology or is it just gonna be power struggle?
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indigi posted:do ISIS and the Taliban have beef over theology or is it just gonna be power struggle? I don't think ISIS has a base for there to be a power struggle. Also, the Taliban are homegrown. ISIS is a foreign organization.
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indigi posted:do ISIS and the Taliban have beef over theology or is it just gonna be power struggle? If the Taliban are no longer persecuting Shia Hazara as a matter of course then that's going to be a sticking point. Best case scenario, it's actually true and ISIS siphons off most of the psychos then loses. Probably too optimistic though
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bedpan posted:I don't think ISIS has a base for there to be a power struggle. Also, the Taliban are homegrown. ISIS is a foreign organization. ISIS is US foreign occupation of afghanistan under new flag
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Flavahbeast posted:If the Taliban are no longer persecuting Shia Hazara as a matter of course then that's going to be a sticking point. Best case scenario, it's actually true and ISIS siphons off most of the psychos then loses. Probably too optimistic though from the reports that are drippling out, it seems like this generation of Taliban has a very competent foreign policy and are able to skillfully navigate the domestic situation to gain territory with a minimum of expense and damage. the statebuilding they are already doing will serve them well once the government in Kabul finally falls. there isn't going to be a northern alliance like the last time this happened. Top City Homo posted:ISIS is US foreign occupation of afghanistan under new flag drat you are right. the US is going to prop up a network of lunatic terrorists (ISIS in Afghanistan) against the legitimate government (the Taliban). Again. bedpan has issued a correction as of 23:13 on Jul 9, 2021 |
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bedpan posted:from the reports that are drippling out, it seems like this generation of Taliban has a very competent foreign policy and are able to skillfully navigate the domestic situation to gain territory with a minimum of expense and damage. the statebuilding they are already doing will serve them well once the government in Kabul finally falls. there isn't going to be a northern alliance like the last time this happened. yep. i am starting to think the only reason they are leaving is to have a base from which ISIS and "ISIS" launch deniable attacks against Russia, central asia and China. Reassurance to those countries by the Taliban is just them saying that if they get attacked its from you know who and not them.
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its insane to me how often empires stick their dick into Afghanistan only to turn around in defeat every single time
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Jose posted:its insane to me how often empires stick their dick into Afghanistan only to turn around in defeat every single time Marrying the local nobility was the winning strategy historically, shame it's fallen out of fashion. As a bonus, it's a good use for all of the failchildren of politicians.
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Jose posted:its insane to me how often empires stick their dick into Afghanistan only to turn around in defeat every single time This was a great documentary on the history from Great Game up to modern times https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m7uL4Q44ws https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6jItZF5ZeU
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Jose posted:its insane to me how often empires stick their dick into Afghanistan only to turn around in defeat every single time afghanistan has been surrounded by empires for the past 2000 years. the empires are unable to resist the temptation and fall time and time again. Afghanistan has been conquered before. Alexander did it. Babur did it. Those are tough shoes to fill though.
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rome abandons britannia
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Top City Homo posted:rome abandons britannia when you rage quit the server.
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etalian posted:when you rage quit the server. they left gave away all their high level gear and expensive houses though before they left
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bets on how long until they take Bagram there's got to be some contigency for that at least. or maybe not lol. I'd say three months
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:bets on how long until they take Bagram 6-9 montha realistically 2 years officially because midterms elections means mic can pump surge propaganda
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Flavahbeast posted:If the Taliban are no longer persecuting Shia Hazara as a matter of course then that's going to be a sticking point. I kinda doubt it. Despite warnings Denmark deported a pair of orphan brothers aged 16 and 18 to Kabul in 2015 and the younger one was almost immediately tortured to death while the other was sexually abused, but somehow managed to escape. He's seeking asylum here again.
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indigi posted:do ISIS and the Taliban have beef over theology or is it just gonna be power struggle? The mujahideen leaders like Hekmetyar and Massoud(and the Talibs after them) all got their start as islamist reformists similar to the Salafists. Rural regions were overrun with morally lax imams and Sufi's mystics, and that was their main bugaboo in their youth. But that's where the similarity ends really, besides being ultra-reactionaries. The Islam they believe in is just a more hardline and strict version of whatever it is their local brand of Sunni Islam was growing up, keeping all the stuff that Salafists consider shirk. Shrines, semi-shamistic local healers, tying ribbons around sacred trees etc. ISIS hates that poo poo. There was initially some thought in ISIS leadership that they could get the Taliban to join them, but their pitch was "Hey we love what you guys are all about, really, but you have some polytheistic nonsense you gotta cut out. Do that and you can be ISIK/ISIA or whatever" and the Taliban told them to gently caress off.
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1:49 Looters were disappointed to find boxes of bagged frozen corn, leaving it to defrost in the open.
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so, crucially, I have to ask: is the Taliban on tiktok? https://twitter.com/afghanarchive/status/1127103224521953280?s=21 this kind of content plus videos in hashish or opium fields would probably do really well
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Jose posted:lol These are all paid speaking engagements, btw. MEK just funnels state department money into the pockets of government's biggest sellouts.
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The MEK were originally Shariatists right? How'd they pivot to being Western lapdogs?
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ToxicAcne posted:The MEK were originally Shariatists right? How'd they pivot to being Western lapdogs? the MEK were, back in the day, the nominal marxist movement looking to overthrow the Shah and had participated in the '79 revolution. afterwards Khomeini tolerated them at first because they weren't any threat and eventually he tolerated them less and less as they started to poo poo stir up until he just straight up started arresting members and executing people. whatever remnants fled to the west and pretty much abandoned marxism and became more of a weird personality sex cult centred around the Rajavi family https://theintercept.com/2020/03/22/mek-mojahedin-e-khalq-iran/
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The MEK were one of the revolutionary hardliners who demanded they execute the embassy hostages, and their turn on the Islamic Republic solely comes down to them thinking the Ayatollah was too moderate.
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they also fought on iraq's side during the iran-iraq war, an idea so obviously terrible that you'd reasonably put it past the CIA itself
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Yeah that destroyed any popular support they had aside from some diaspora wierdos.
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