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In the future, where A) society has progressed to the point where all kinds of social norms and taboos of the 21st century are gone and B) there’s a holographic technology capable of simulating sex with anything… Yeah I mean why would a pedophile want to live in the future of the Galactic Federation
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Jul 7, 2021 20:54
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:The truth is this: a pedophile can look like literally anyone. They come in all shapes and sizes and there's no one trait that unifies them. Same with rapists and people who commit other forms of sexual abuse. The campaigns in the 80s and 90s of "stranger danger" did serious harm because it created a perception that the threats to child were from outsiders (like maybe 5% at best) and then made it hard for children to accuse their abusers because people didn't believe local "good guy A" would do such a thing when everyone knew it was traveling carnies and deadbeats who molest children.
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Jul 8, 2021 05:06
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:The truth is this: a pedophile can look like literally anyone. They come in all shapes and sizes and there's no one trait that unifies them. Same with rapists and people who commit other forms of sexual abuse. yeah.. speaking as someone who worked in an office with a dude that turned out to be a pedophile there were no warning signs at all. He was an older guy who was in administration for a city - like he would go before council and do interviews with the media and stuff like that. We went out to lunch every day with some other staff and talked sports and movies and poo poo. When I got to work one morning and there was an email saying that an employee had been charged with possession of child porn and removed from the premises, I remember thinking at first that it was probably one of the IT dudes who looked a bit off, turn out it was my buddy lol.
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Jul 8, 2021 08:01
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pentyne posted:The campaigns in the 80s and 90s of "stranger danger" did serious harm because it created a perception that the threats to child were from outsiders (like maybe 5% at best) and then made it hard for children to accuse their abusers because people didn't believe local "good guy A" would do such a thing when everyone knew it was traveling carnies and deadbeats who molest children. The actual percentage is something 75% of attacks come from someone known to the victim, and a full third of those (so, a quarter overall) come from a family member. I know a lot of people who've been assaulted and it comes so often from someone well known, often from their friendship group.
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Jul 9, 2021 04:25
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In the 90's the pervasive attitude amongst big-brained talking heads was that sexual assault was about power and dominance, but modern theory leans harder into the much darker and sadder idea that it's really about entitlement, that men become so thoroughly conditioned through societal misogony that they actually just sort of assume that the bodies of the women in their lives are basically their property. This also combines well with the fact that family members or close friends have more access to you when you are vulnerable, so the entitlement meets the opportunity.
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Jul 9, 2021 04:53
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Bust Rodd posted:In the 90's the pervasive attitude amongst big-brained talking heads was that sexual assault was about power and dominance, but modern theory leans harder into the much darker and sadder idea that it's really about entitlement, that men become so thoroughly conditioned through societal misogony that they actually just sort of assume that the bodies of the women in their lives are basically their property. This also combines well with the fact that family members or close friends have more access to you when you are vulnerable, so the entitlement meets the opportunity. That isn't really a switch and I'm not sure why you're framing it that way. The viewing of women and their bodies as property is directly connected to it being about power and dominance and control. A lot of these people view sex as something that they are inherently weakened or flawed for not having. The sheer anger comes from being told nonstop that a real man has control over women physically and mentally and actual real people not living up to that idea. They believe they are entitled to having these things that make them feel strong and dominant and powerful.
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Jul 9, 2021 05:07
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Sodomy Hussein posted:It's worth remembering Jared from Subway didn't just incidentally get caught with child pornography, he had several terabytes. Apologies if this question has already posed in this massive thread, but does anyone know why pedos so often have absurdly huge cp collections? Several terabytes of anything is insane - why the cartoonish level of hoarding?
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Jul 10, 2021 01:56
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They aren’t doing it because they hobbyists, they are doing it because they are psychologically compelled to do so. It makes more sense if you appropriately treat it like a mental illness.
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Jul 10, 2021 02:13
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Yeah, it doesn't seem like something that someone would just have a small sampling of. I would also imagine that even if it's 'easy' to obtain now, there's still some effort required, or fear that they might not be able to get more (or get it again), and it just never gets discarded once they have it. It could be that we only hear of the really large amounts in high-profile cases, and in other circumstances they aren't bringing up charges for possession/distribution.
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Jul 10, 2021 02:50
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My guess is that they trade, and the more you have the more you can get.
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Jul 10, 2021 03:02
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deoju posted:My guess is that they trade, and the more you have the more you can get. Yeah, a ton of people who look at legal porn never download much onto their computer, because it's very easy to get access to it on demand now. I'm not gonna check and see if there's a redtube for child porn, but I suspect there isn't and if there is it's constantly shifting where it's based and there's near constant downtime.
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Jul 10, 2021 08:27
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:Tariq is a hotep elemential and recently came out with a documentary about how being gay was invented in the 1400s as part of a conspiracy to weaken black men, or something similarly insane.
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Jul 10, 2021 13:40
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Plethora posted:Apologies if this question has already posed in this massive thread, but does anyone know why pedos so often have absurdly huge cp collections? Several terabytes of anything is insane - why the cartoonish level of hoarding? Fogle always had a porn hoarder personality. It was obviously glossed over in his subway cinematic universe but when he got addicted to subway in college, he was renting out porn from his dorm room. Old habits die hard.
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Jul 10, 2021 13:54
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RevKrule posted:Fogle always had a porn hoarder personality. It was obviously glossed over in his subway cinematic universe but when he got addicted to subway in college, he was renting out porn from his dorm room. wait, what? Who was renting it from him? Was this pre- everyone has internet?
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Jul 10, 2021 14:14
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Skwirl posted:wait, what? I’m not sure, but that was definitely part of his story. He got Subway so often because it was the closest place to his dorm/apartment, and he didn’t want to leave for long because people were always stopping by to rent porn.
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Jul 10, 2021 15:01
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wtf, that'd be the late 90s, regular porn was super easy to get. he must have catered to some pretty niche tastes...
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Jul 10, 2021 15:14
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Carthag Tuek posted:wtf, that'd be the late 90s, regular porn was super easy to get. he must have catered to some pretty niche tastes... Nope. Air Skwirl fucked around with this message at 15:29 on Jul 10, 2021 |
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Jul 10, 2021 15:20
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Skwirl posted:Just realize he might not be a pedophile, just an rear end in a top hat willing to take money from pedophiles in exchange for CP, which might be worse since there's not an underlying mental illness behind it. gently caress that. His plea deal was for crossing state lines to gently caress a kid. He's a kid fucker.
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Jul 10, 2021 15:25
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Midjack posted:gently caress that. His plea deal was for crossing state lines to gently caress a kid. He's a kid fucker. Nevermind.
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Skwirl posted:wait, what? He became subway spokesman in like the late 90s/early 2000s so basically, yes.
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Jul 10, 2021 16:05
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Yeah, part of the reason Jared got caught is because he was constantly getting in trouble or being spotted by his corporate handlers doing something really hosed up or inappropriate. You have to remember that one of Fogle’s jobs was the Subway health initiative, which did actually involve him flying to different schools all over the country and talking to kids about healthy eating habits.
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Jul 10, 2021 16:08
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Skwirl posted:wait, what? Iirc it was people buying vhs tapes (of filez?) off him
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Jul 10, 2021 20:43
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wasn't that peewee herman's whole deal? he was a big porn collector and ended up with some CP materials in his humongous stash of like century-old memorabilia i think before the internet really took off it was pretty commonplace to have high-interest collectors host closed exhibitions of all their rare stuff and lend them out to other collectors. unfortunately this can leave you vulnerable if you're rubbing elbows with other collectors like jeffrey jones
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Jul 10, 2021 21:09
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God Hole posted:wasn't that peewee herman's whole deal? he was a big porn collector and ended up with some CP materials in his humongous stash of like century-old memorabilia I thought Pee Wee just jacked off in a porn theater. (Which, I’ve never been, but isn’t that the point of those places?) He didn’t have child porn, did he?
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Jul 10, 2021 21:17
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thrawn527 posted:I thought Pee Wee just jacked off in a porn theater. (Which, I’ve never been, but isn’t that the point of those places?) He didn’t have child porn, did he? This was like a decade after his porn theatre thing. I think it ended up that they either never found any child porn or it was a handful of things in a huge collection of weird vintage porn he’d amassed in bulk purchases, so as far as anyone could tell he may have legitimately not known it was in there and it didn’t look like he’d gone out of his way to buy child porn or there’d surely have been more of it.
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Midjack posted:gently caress that. His plea deal was for crossing state lines to gently caress a kid. He's a kid fucker. Yeah, it's all documented: Documents Reveal Disturbing Texts Jared Fogle Sent to Prostitutes https://heavy.com/news/2016/04/jare...nts-pdf-update/ Jared Fogle’s Sick Texts Revealed: ‘I’ll Pay You Big for a 14- or 15-Year Old’ https://www.thewrap.com/jared-fogles-sick-texts-revealed-ill-pay-you-big-for-a-14-or-15-year-old/ FBI informant shares lurid details of Jared Fogle recordings https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-informant-shares-lurid-details-of-jared-fogle-secret-recordings/ "The government cited text messages it said proves that Fogle developed relationships with adult escorts "and offered them finder's fees to provide him with access to minors." "I'll pay you big for a 14- or 15-year-old," he texted one escort. In another conversation, he asked for "young girls or boys" and said he'd pay at least $400 if they could prove their age. "Do you have access to any young girls? Like 15 or 16?" Fogle asked one escort. "Why, baby?" The escort replied. "Cause it's what I crave! ... I would hook you up nicely if you did," Fogle said. "How much? Because I have a cousin who is 15," the escort said." Also, his friend, who ran the Jared Foundation (which is another scandal) had turned voyeurism into a cottage industry and was taping people inside his house for years.
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Jul 10, 2021 22:04
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History Comes Inside! posted:This was like a decade after his porn theatre thing. I think it ended up that they either never found any child porn or it was a handful of things in a huge collection of weird vintage porn he’d amassed in bulk purchases, so as far as anyone could tell he may have legitimately not known it was in there and it didn’t look like he’d gone out of his way to buy child porn or there’d surely have been more of it. IIRC a rival collector ratted him out and purposely set him up or something outrageous like that
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El Gallinero Gros posted:IIRC a rival collector ratted him out and purposely set him up or something outrageous like that yea the Pee Wee thing is a really weird story that seems (from the few times I looked it up and all) he was just a pervert of legal tastes who also liked to collect weird old porn and someone who was a rival weird old porn collector either set him up or knew he unknowingly got a collection that included stuff that was illegal and all and tried to get him busted. I don't think they ever actually found any proof he was out there buying kiddie porn knowingly.
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Jul 11, 2021 03:23
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Gotta be pretty tough to hang out with the big dogs of the vintage porn collector industry.
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Jul 11, 2021 03:51
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I remember some one saying it was vintage, like Lewis Caroll type, pictures of nude children. The victorians were really into that sort of thing. Reminds me of the beginning of What Ever Happened to Baby Jane, where everyone was buying life size dolls of singing child star.
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I think when it came up the last time, it was that Peewee just legit loved porn and collecting it. Bizarrely, it lent credence to the story that he wasn't even jacking off at the theater. That he really was just interested in experiencing porn on a big screen, because he just loved porn that much. But supposedly vintage porn basically gets sold as giant stacks of photos and cutouts, and then you go through it and sort it. When you're not collecting old playboys the record keeping gets way sketchier and you're almost certainly going to wind up with underage material. But yeah, they supposedly asked and the vendors he bought from swore he never asked for it.  I mostly remember it because of a standup comedian's joke from the time that came up. "They arrested Peewee at the theater. Now they've taken all his porn. Where IS he allowed to jack off?"
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There's a lot of bad information/misinformation about the Pee-Wee Herman/Paul Reubens "child porn" bust, but I suppose it's good that people at least realize it wasn't so much that he was a pedophile, but that he had the gall to have a great children's show while also happening to be a bit of a pervert, and also gay (or at least definitely not straight). That tends to upset people. Admittedly getting caught jerking off in a Sarasota adult movie theater is the height of embarrassment, and it had one hell of an accompanying mug shot. Anyway, yeah, basically Pee-Wee had a massive collection of vintage "gay porn" from the 1940s and 50s, meaning a massive collection of stuff like muscle magazines, swimmers, guys at the beach posing, early beefcake stuff - essentially exactly the sort of thing that a young queer kid growing up in the 1950s/60s would have had access to as gay pornography during that time, which makes sense in terms of why he'd be collecting it. Amongst this massive collection of hundreds of thousands of images (which he had clearly bought in bulk and had probably never even gone through all of) there were maybe a dozen or so pictures of teenagers who were probably 16-17. The whole thing really was kinda bullshit - it wasn't really child pornography and no reasonable person would have cause to think he was a pedophile. Just a baby boomer with a nostalgic taste for pornography and too much spending money.
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Jul 11, 2021 05:01
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"Tossing off in a porn theatre" being illegal seems pretty pointless and stupid.
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Parakeet vs. Phone posted:I mostly remember it because of a standup comedian's joke from the time that came up. "They arrested Peewee at the theater. Now they've taken all his porn. Where IS he allowed to jack off?" IIRC Wanda Sykes was the who came up with that joke.
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Yeah, Paul Reubens is the good kind of pervert, in that he keeps his hands to himself, he doesn’t proselytize about his sex ideas or kinks, he’s just someone who has a very clear idea of what he wants and what he likes and never tried to push that agenda on anyone. I love Paul Reubens TBH and he was certainly one of my childhood heroes and I’m glad that he’s one of the good ones
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Jul 11, 2021 14:03
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Also when he was arrested back in the day the story was told as if he was jerking off in a normal movie theatre.
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WaywardWoodwose posted:I remember some one saying it was vintage, like Lewis Caroll type, pictures of nude children. The victorians were really into that sort of thing. It was still pedophilia, though. Lewis Carrol was definitely a pedo. Like, it's not a "oh those old timers" type thing, because "pictures of nude children" is definitely NOT something that was normal at that time. (This is about those types of photos, not about Peewee/Pau Rubens) Edit: Worth mentioning that Peewee's porn theater bust was orchestrated by Les Moonves as a way of getting back to him for going to HBO.
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Jul 12, 2021 20:14
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Child groomer Drake Bell just got sentenced to only 2 years probation for pleading guilty to grooming children. https://twitter.com/AP/status/1414650483264921608
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