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Fuligin posted:bg3 feels much more like actually playing dnd then any of the others lol. I mean whether that's a good or bad thing may vary to taste ofc I totally agree that BG3 accurately captures that tabletop roleplaying experience, but that's because of Larian's approach to game design not the ruleset imho.
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Volte posted:And also using the D&D 5e ruleset, which seems like kind of a big distinction from D:OS. The action economy of 5e (movement, action, bonus action, reaction) is completely different from D:OS (Fallout-style action points). 5e D&D also has extremely simple and limited character creation to the point where some fighter levels didn't have a single option. It's still a great game from what I played of the first act but it's not the D:OS 3 I was hoping it would be.
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Antigravitas posted:Dishonored 2 has some inspired architecture. And I don't mean the Clockwork Mansion interior. That one has gotten a lot of praise for the bonkers level of effort that went into it and how amazing it feels to slip into its mechanisms. But what I mean is the incredible care that went into every building in the game. Like The Grand Palace. It's an incredible piece of architecture that tells you a lot of about the person who commissioned it and how they relate to the land that they govern. It's a fortress in a style that looks like some sort of mediterranean modernism. It is not just geographically sequestered from the city, its architecture is starkly different. It looks like the seat of power of a rich rear end in a top hat and autocrat, and it is. I loved that stage, definitely one of my favorite pieces of architecture in any game.
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Jul 11, 2021 20:08
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Kagrenac posted:5e D&D also has extremely simple and limited character creation to the point where some fighter levels didn't have a single option. They shoulda used D&D fourth edition. Dumb nerds kept complaining that it felt too videogamey, so why not use it for that purpose for once?  
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Jul 11, 2021 20:12
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Dishonored chat made me think of Deathloop and I thought it had been delayed to 2022, but apparently it's set for September...? Cool. Guess I had it mixed up because it was actually delayed last year. Time is meaningless now.
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Jul 11, 2021 20:15
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Perestroika posted:They shoulda used D&D fourth edition. Dumb nerds kept complaining that it felt too videogamey, so why not use it for that purpose for once?
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Jul 11, 2021 20:21
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I just completed Dragon Age Origins!  - Combat was really tedious and unfun by the end - The writing was stellar, especially everything involving the dwarves and deep roads. I loved the world building and most of the character work. Great stuff! - The epilogue being so flexible and comprehensive felt really, really good. Looking up the alternative choices was cool. - My elf mage got to go hang out with the Grey Wardens with Zevran in a happy ending  Onwards to DA2!
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Jul 11, 2021 21:07
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StrixNebulosa posted:Onwards to DA2! lol. Looking forward to the trip report on this one.
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Jul 11, 2021 21:13
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Dragon Age Origins was a great game. I'm glad there were no sequels or spin offs and Bioware decided to make a one off game. Yup.
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Jul 11, 2021 21:17
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ErrEff posted:I kinda hate Star Wars now thanks to Disney but at least Fallen Order was trying to do something interesting with it. I think they were both restricted by what the Nah that bit ruled.
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Jul 11, 2021 21:19
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StrixNebulosa posted:I just completed Dragon Age Origins! Looking forward to that recap lmao
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Jul 11, 2021 21:23
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Eason the Fifth posted:lol. Looking forward to the trip report on this one. Antigravitas posted:Looking forward to that recap lmao What I know about DA2: - reuses assets so heavily that DAO was 20 gigs, and DA2 is 10. christ. - If I don't like Hawke I'm hosed - Combat is better? Maybe? - Nowhere near as expansive or interesting as DAO So my expectations are lowered and I'm ready for anything... including uninstalling it and installing DAI instead so I can get my single player MMO fix!
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Jul 11, 2021 21:25
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StrixNebulosa posted:What I know about DA2: It's not the worst thing ever. For a Dragon Age sequel it's mighty close, though. Some people like it and I can see why. Most end up shaking their heads, wondering where all that supposed creative talent and energy disappeared.
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SirSamVimes posted:Nah that bit ruled. Yeah, I'm no Star Wars fan but Vader was great even if I didn't like the ending. Hub Cat fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Jul 11, 2021 |
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Jul 11, 2021 21:34
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I did something similar for DA:I (that is, played Origins and 2 so I could have the full story). Origins was fun and interesting with good characterization and a few bad parts, like the Deep Roads. Not to cloud your own opinion, but I found the opposite was true with 2: unfun and boring with poor characterization but a few good parts. I rushed through it just to finish the thing (even completely missed a party character) and don't remember much about it. DA:I I really did enjoy, though. You'll like that one for sure.
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Eason the Fifth posted:I did something similar for DA:I (that is, played Origins and 2 so I could have the full story). Origins was fun and interesting with good characterization and a few bad parts, like the Deep Roads. Not to cloud your own opinion, but I found the opposite was true with 2: unfun and boring with poor characterization but a few good parts. I rushed through it just to finish the thing (even completely missed a party character) and don't remember much about it. "the deep roads are bad"  Well, to be more nuanced: I found all of the dwarven lore, and exploring hosed up dwarven ruins was GREAT. It also helped(?) that since I found the combat bad almost everywhere that it didn't matter to me that there was a lot of it. Finding Branka was easily the best sequence in all of DAO. DA2 initial impressions: woah, this was designed around a controller. I commented on this and my BFF was all "ah, as all bad games are" and lol I don't know that they're wrong.
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StrixNebulosa posted:What I know about DA2: It's the best if you lean into sarcastic rear end in a top hat Hawke. For your companions, you can become "rivals" rather then just accruing dislike and get into more heated arguments/exchanges where you can call bullshit on their opinions and ideas but not kick them out of the party. There's a similar mechanic for the romances too iirc.
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Jul 11, 2021 21:43
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Givin posted:I haven't even booted it up but does it do the Larian thing where in multiplayer the only person who gets to interact with NPCs is the initiating person? I never played multiplayer, so I can't comment on that part.
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Unlucky7 posted:Is there a way to remove the community content section on the game pages? Yup, go to Settings -> Library, there's an option to disable it.
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StrixNebulosa posted:DA2 initial impressions: woah, this was designed around a controller. I commented on this and my BFF was all "ah, as all bad games are" and lol I don't know that they're wrong. DA1 was a clunky (and EXTREMELY boring) rip-off of Infinity Engine games, and DA3 was a lovely MMO on an empty server.
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StrixNebulosa posted:DA2 initial impressions: woah, this was designed around a controller. I commented on this and my BFF was all "ah, as all bad games are" and lol I don't know that they're wrong. I dunno. On one hand ET and Superman 64, but on the other hand Dawn of War 3 and the XIII remake?
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Quill posted:It's not the worst thing ever. For a Dragon Age sequel it's mighty close, though. Some people like it and I can see why. Most end up shaking their heads, wondering where all that supposed creative talent and energy disappeared. It was the worst thing ever, then DA:I happened.
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Stickman posted:I dunno. On one hand ET and Superman 64, but on the other hand Dawn of War 3 and the XIII remake? daikatana lol
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Final initial impressions of DA2, as I run off to dinner: combat feels good! Way better than DAO. I spin around and cast fireball and it's fluid n' fun. I also like the tighter focus on a family so far, and seeing friend/rival as a meter is really exciting for character writing. That said it also feels slimmed down so far? Going from the janky width/depth of a Baldur's Gate clone to something more Mass Effect-y is jarring. Anyways these can't be too in-depth because I only just met the templar and we're still outside of Lotharing, so more to come. Overall I'm fascinated and will keep playing when I can.
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DA2 had a couple of things that I really wish they hadn't thrown out with the rest of the bathwater when they made 3. Team-mates knew how to dress themselves. When you pressed a button, poo poo happened right now. It had a responsiveness that 3 completely lost. Having a protagonist with a place in the world and a name people called you by was pretty rad (even though they dropped the ball by having dudes rant at you about how bad mages are while you yourself are a mage, dressed like a mage, with magic pouring off you)
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Gort posted:When you pressed a button, poo poo happened right now. It had a responsiveness that 3 completely lost. the button=awesome connection
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Volte posted:And also using the D&D 5e ruleset, which seems like kind of a big distinction from D:OS. The action economy of 5e (movement, action, bonus action, reaction) is completely different from D:OS (Fallout-style action points). The biggest disappointment to me about using the D&D ruleset in a crpg is how casters are handled in regards to resting to regain spells. In an actual tabletop game the DM will restrict constant long rests to something sane, but so much of the time in any game it's too easy to abuse. I would have much more preferred D:OS3 with D&D trappings than what we are actually getting.
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How’s the writing in BG3 anyway? I couldn’t stand the tonal jumps and childish bullshit in the DOS games. Is it good or is it Larian?
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Antigravitas posted:Dishonored 2 has some inspired architecture. And I don't mean the Clockwork Mansion interior. That one has gotten a lot of praise for the bonkers level of effort that went into it and how amazing it feels to slip into its mechanisms. But what I mean is the incredible care that went into every building in the game. Like The Grand Palace. It's an incredible piece of architecture that tells you a lot of about the person who commissioned it and how they relate to the land that they govern. It's a fortress in a style that looks like some sort of mediterranean modernism. It is not just geographically sequestered from the city, its architecture is starkly different. It looks like the seat of power of a rich rear end in a top hat and autocrat, and it is. Yeah Dishonored level design throughout is fantastic, much beyond the clockwork level. There is a lot environmental storytelling plus grwat freedom and flow.
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Cinara posted:The biggest disappointment to me about using the D&D ruleset in a crpg is how casters are handled in regards to resting to regain spells. In an actual tabletop game the DM will restrict constant long rests to something sane, but so much of the time in any game it's too easy to abuse. I would have much more preferred D:OS3 with D&D trappings than what we are actually getting.
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Cinara posted:The biggest disappointment to me about using the D&D ruleset in a crpg is how casters are handled in regards to resting to regain spells. In an actual tabletop game the DM will restrict constant long rests to something sane, but so much of the time in any game it's too easy to abuse. I would have much more preferred D:OS3 with D&D trappings than what we are actually getting. The new Pathfinder game has a cool way of handling this - resting builds up Corruption and with enough corruption stacks you take some hefty attribute penalties (which can be literally deadly combined with how many enemies debuff your attributes), and the only way to remove corruption is to rest in one of the few safe areas. So you're limited in how much you can rest during a given excursion from your base of operations, but it's never a permanent game-long hinderance. It also opens up some tense gameplay moments when you decide to push forward despite your corruption level. In one of the chapter finales I had three of my party members die to corruption and I had to push on and take down the final boss with just the surviving three and it felt like a real triumph.
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Stux posted:daikatana lol Ironically the best version of Daikatana is built around a controller. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhQouZ2OXOo
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StrixNebulosa posted:Weird way of spelling 10/10
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Shameful goons somehow overlooking that games designed for a touchscreen are so universally bad that there's literally never been a good one.
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K8.0 posted:Shameful goons somehow overlooking that games designed for a touchscreen are so universally bad that there's literally never been a good one. the shamefullest goon forgetting the PlayStation Vita
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Hwurmp posted:the shamefullest goon forgetting the PlayStation Vita The lesser version of the illustrious Nokia N-Gage. EDIT: Beaten like a stray dog.
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Perestroika posted:They shoulda used D&D fourth edition. Dumb nerds kept complaining that it felt too videogamey, so why not use it for that purpose for once? Atari was squatting on the licensee for basically the entire lifetime of 4e, sadly.
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