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Marsupial Ape posted:I thought the twist was good. Taskmaster had always been an uninteresting character. “I can copy anybody’s physical talents…guess I’ll do crimes and teach c-list henchmen how fight like cooler people”. What a lovely origin and motivation. At least MCU Taskmaster has a hosed up origin with some pathos. She got blown up by a future Avenger and her own father used what was left to make a mind controlled cyborg killing machine because she was too scarred to be a Widow. I bet her and Nebula would have a lot to talk about. What a terrible opinion. What makes Taskmaster a good character isn't his powers, or the things that have been inflicted upon him, but how he interacts with other people. The MCU version offers none of that. What makes him a good character is that even when he's doing morally dubious stuff, you can stand to be in the same room as the guy. A.o.D. fucked around with this message at 11:46 on Jul 11, 2021 |
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counterpoint one time tasky was headed for a bad situation so he spent the time before hand cramming a bunch of kung fu and action movies on fast-forward
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Jul 11, 2021 11:49
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I know I’m very much a lapsed comic nerd, but I’d never heard of Taskmaster before this movie, and all the clips from comics and cartoons people show to assure me that Taskmaster is cool has kinda left me cold tbh. To each their own. I was perfectly happy with the movie version and the pathos aspect works better in the context of this story. Plus, there’s a 7 year gap between now and the end of that movie, there’s no reason Taskmaster can’t return in a form that the comic nerds desired. Look how Zemo changed and lightened up between Civil War and FatWS, 7 years is a lot of time to do character growth, and now there’s an actual origin story for the character shown.
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Jul 11, 2021 12:09
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Taskmaster's superpower is that he's really good at doing homework
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Jul 11, 2021 13:12
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There were rumors that Taskmaster is part of the Thunderbolts so it's possible that's still on the table with whatever Val's doing.
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Just not interested in a dour Tasky. Just like the other poster said, the gender flipping isn't the issue, it's doing the character dirty like X-Men Origins: Wolverine did to Deadpool. I guess at least X-Men let Deadpool crack a couple lovely jokes before throwing the entire character into the trash. Organic Lube User fucked around with this message at 13:48 on Jul 11, 2021 |
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Being even remotely close to the same  "The Mandarin" pissbabies is enough to make me break out in hives, so I hope they never retcon Taskmaster.Marsupial Ape posted:I thought the twist was good. Taskmaster had always been an uninteresting character. “I can copy anybody’s physical talents…guess I’ll do crimes and teach c-list henchmen how fight like cooler people”. What a lovely origin and motivation. At least MCU Taskmaster has a hosed up origin with some pathos. She got blown up by a future Avenger and her own father used what was left to make a mind controlled cyborg killing machine because she was too scarred to be a Widow. I bet her and Nebula would have a lot to talk about. We still never did find out about the hospital fire and honestly that sounds like way bigger potatoes than I deliberately killed a kid .
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I don't think they need to retcon it but I think it would be cool if movie Taskmaster was revealed to have, in the time span since, just sorta turned into comics Taskmaster
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Jul 11, 2021 15:06
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Elaine has put a ton of 90s cartoons on a flash drive and dumped them into Taskmaster
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Organic Lube User posted:Just not interested in a dour Tasky. Yeah this what I was going to post. I think the idea of a "cyborg assassin" is so boring, like this character could just be in gi Joe or whatever, it's so generic, given the rest of the universe they're in. Got flashbacks to idris alba from hobbes and shaw
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Dexo posted:Elaine has put a ton of 90s cartoons on a flash drive and dumped them into Taskmaster Everybody fighting Taskmaster is now very confused as they only seem to know only three moves and repeat them constantly.
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Jul 11, 2021 15:19
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Taskmaster watching wrestling and suplexing people would be fun.
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Taskmaster was a microscopic part of the movie and only existed as a fighty-hurdle for, what, 2-3 scenes? So I guess I understand why fans of Taskmaster were disappointed The revelation here is that there were fans of Taskmaster in the first place 
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Collapsing Farts posted:Taskmaster was a microscopic part of the movie and only existed as a fighty-hurdle for, what, 2-3 scenes? So I guess I understand why fans of Taskmaster were disappointed They are a fun character
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Think of the shitshow that is going to happen when Shang-Chi comes out and Fin Fang Foom doesn't have comics accurate tiny purple shorts, lack of penis that infuriates him because he wants to breed, and is unstoppable unless you trick him into smoking some spiced herb to put him in stasis for a 1,000 years.
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Jul 11, 2021 16:34
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Not for nothing, but there is a Black Widow thread, right? Fair amount of spoilers in this MCU TV thread. I’m already spoiled on the whole thing, but for anyone who isn’t, maybe move it to the other thread?
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:lack of penis that infuriates him because he wants to bread That's the yeast of his problems.
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Infinitum posted:That's the yeast of his problems. Android autocorrect is a prude. Some space lizards want to gently caress and don't have a penis in their tiny purple shorts - get over it!
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Think of the shitshow that is going to happen when Shang-Chi comes out and Fin Fang Foom doesn't have comics accurate tiny purple shorts, lack of penis that infuriates him because he wants to breed, and is unstoppable unless you trick him into smoking some spiced herb to put him in stasis for a 1,000 years. That's probably not even Fin Fang Foom. It's Mephisto!
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To guide this back to MCU TV chat, Marvel unveiled some new merch that gives a few new details on some of the What if... episodes: namely King Killmonger,
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Technowolf posted:To guide this back to MCU TV chat, Marvel unveiled some new merch that gives a few new details on some of the What if... episodes: namely King Killmonger, I wish I had money to buy that Dr. Strange.  (Yes, I collect useless plastic when I can because I can! lol)
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Are those not minor spoilers?
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Technowolf posted:To guide this back to MCU TV chat, Marvel unveiled some new merch that gives a few new details on some of the What if... episodes: namely King Killmonger, It's also been reported that RDJ, Evans, Cumberbatch and Larson are not doing their voices in What If..?.
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Taskmaster is a less popular Deadpool. Most Deadpool fans I've known have liked taskmaster, because he is also a funny comedy dude who makes the laughs happen. He is definitely not a serious movie character and making him into one is probably weaker than just... letting him join Deadpool in a comedy movie.
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Yo, if you don't know how the spoilertag functions works, then take your movie spoilers to CineD.
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Coming back to Loki, it’s not even necessarily going to have a “big bad”. It could just be a “big neutral” with someone or some many administering the timeline as the TVA said it was, but with a whole “greater good” deal where some eggs get broken along the way. The eggs often being Loki. It’s potentially wide open for the season finale to go a whole bunch of ways, and isn’t it nice to know on a Sunday night, with one episode left to go, that for all our speculation and theorycrafting, and for all the accusations that the MCU is predictable and formulaic, we just don’t *know* what is going to happen on Wednesday? 13 years and 24 movies in, I think that’s kinda neat.
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Oh yeah, it could be anything!! even if I'm clinging to my "it was another Loki all along!" theory, the thing is we haven't been able to really predict anything because the material is predictable but because we got lucky by throwing a lot of ideas to the wall. I just hope the finale is some weird insane thing that doesn't disappoint.
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I’m guessing the big bad is going to be Old Man Loki. His comic equivalent’s whole arc was manipulating young Loki to make sure he exist, and his notable trait in the show is “really good at faking his own death”.
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Desperado Bones posted:I just hope the finale is some weird insane thing that doesn't disappoint. It’s Silvie
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I was annoyed that Red Guardian never got to actually meet Captain America in Black Widow for how much he talked him up. It would have been so hilarious for him to get a chance to meet him only for it to be John Walker instead.
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Just in case anyone was holding on to hope, Mike Colter gave an interview yesterday where he said: - That there was already work being done on Season 3 of Luke Cage when it was cancelled and that nobody on the staff or even Jeph Loeb at Marvel TV got word that it was being considered until a day before they announced it. - Season 3 was going to be about Luke turning semi-evil and trying to enforce peace and end gang control of Harlem using the club as his base of operations. - That Netflix decided that the viewership for all the Marvel shows had been shrinking and the shows were too expensive to produce for something Netflix didn't actually own. - He's had "conversations" with Marvel, but there is no talk at Marvel for reviving any of the Netflix shows. - The rights just recently reverted back to Marvel in February 2021 and they won't be on Disney+ any time soon. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Jul 11, 2021 |
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mind the walrus posted:Being even remotely close to the same This ain't it, bud. The only counter argument I'm getting is that Taskmaster is a super cool dude because his flimsy character makes it easy for the male reader to insert themselves into the power fantasy. And the only reference to how 'cool' Taskmaster is are to a 4 part miniseries that was written over 15 years ago. Yikes.
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I like when Taskmaster fights someone that has an ability that he can't mimic. Like in All New Wolverine where Laura just stabs him trough the hand with her foot claw. They always forget about the foot claws  Like what would he do against like, Scarlet Witch or Longshot?
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Jul 11, 2021 20:44
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Walk away presumably. The money isn't worth risking his life over.
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Actually having just rewatched Deadpool 2 last night the funniest matchup would be Taskmaster vs. Domino.
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Marsupial Ape posted:This ain't it, bud.  Find someone who gives a gently caress bud. Panfilo posted:I was annoyed that Red Guardian never got to actually meet Captain America in Black Widow for how much he talked him up. Edmund Lava posted:I’m guessing the big bad is going to be Old Man Loki. His comic equivalent’s whole arc was manipulating young Loki to make sure he exist, and his notable trait in the show is “really good at faking his own death”.
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Technowolf posted:To guide this back to MCU TV chat, Marvel unveiled some new merch that gives a few new details on some of the What if... episodes: namely King Killmonger, It's not what if... if spiderman isn't constantly dying  This is bullshit
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Terror Sweat posted:It's not what if... if spiderman isn't constantly dying Spiderman dies and Reed Richards goes mega-hitler evil. The two constants of What If?
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twistedmentat posted:I like when Taskmaster fights someone that has an ability that he can't mimic. Like in All New Wolverine where Laura just stabs him trough the hand with her foot claw. They always forget about the foot claws
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