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AreWeDrunkYet posted:From r/relationships: This is a lovely situation. At first I was going to roll my eyes at the guy being a dick but if she really is spontaneously, just now deciding what her life’s passion will be I’d be spooked, too. Yes, there are ways to make a living in the arts. Yes, there are just as many bullshit ways to make a living in the arts. No, neither approach is any easier than the other plus both rely on luck and effort.
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I thought everyone knew that retail store loss prevention is more about catching employee theft than actual customers.
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Jul 11, 2021 17:40
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I accidentally stole 3 things from Harris Teeter yesterday. I scanned everything but for some reason 3 items didn’t register even though they beeped. It brought up the “weight discrepancy” warning at the end of my checkout and the kid working didn’t even ask me about it. He just entered his code and let me leave. I didn’t realize there was even a problem until the end of the checkout and then only realized I hadn’t paid for some things when I looked at the receipt after getting home. 90% of loss prevention is having employees who give a poo poo. But why would they?
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Jul 11, 2021 18:23
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So we need to pay them less and but facial recognition technology
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Jul 11, 2021 18:24
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I legitimately accidentally walked out of best buy with a 64mb ram stick and the two friends I was with and I could not figure out when I picked it up. Shoplifting is not and was not something I ever do either we still talk about it 20 years later. This post is also how you know I'm white because if I wasn't it could not have happened.
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Jul 11, 2021 18:28
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Walmart doesn’t even make you put the stuff on the scale . You can just put it right back in the cart. If you are leaving without a bag they will ask to see your receipt but they literally just want to see that you have one and don’t actually look at it or what you are walking out with. So I’m not sure how one would actually get caught there unless they have mega secret security guards walking around tailing people.
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Jul 11, 2021 18:41
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deedee megadoodoo posted:I accidentally stole 3 things from Harris Teeter yesterday. I scanned everything but for some reason 3 items didn’t register even though they beeped. It brought up the “weight discrepancy” warning at the end of my checkout and the kid working didn’t even ask me about it. He just entered his code and let me leave. I didn’t realize there was even a problem until the end of the checkout and then only realized I hadn’t paid for some things when I looked at the receipt after getting home. I mean if you're that kid, how do you figure that out without combing through your whole order item by item? And then StormDrain posted:I would have considered walking off when they started counting my stuff. It doesn't see. Like the items you had was worth the hassle.
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Jul 11, 2021 18:47
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Cacafuego posted:I thought everyone knew that retail store loss prevention is more about catching employee theft than actual customers. In my state, over 30% of restraining orders are issued for one entity: Wal-Mart. They are all issued as part of successful criminal prosecutions and I doubt most of them are former employees. Wal-Mart will also press charges for theft under $10 and the county keeps an officer at some Wal-Mart locations to save time and detain people.
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Jul 11, 2021 19:39
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:In my state, over 30% of restraining orders are issued for one entity: Wal-Mart. Oh I don’t doubt it! When I worked at Best Buy, a good friend was the LP supervisor and I think he runs corporate all for them now, or is somewhere high up in their corporate LP. They (and I’m sure all retail LP) actively look for external retail theft, but their focus is stopping internal theft, whether it be products, money, or other fraud (returns, not scanning items for friends, etc). I worked in the appliance section and it was routine to walk in and find broken spider wraps and the plastic security cases stuck in all the refrigerators as the appliance department was often the least busy and with large “dividers” between aisles (displayed refrigerators), so it was easier to conceal what they were doing. To my knowledge, in my 3 years there, they never stopped or caught any customers stealing anything, except for one teenager who stole a non-activated gift cards and they tried to play “scared straight” with him and one person who stole a non-working display phone. They did prosecute employees for internal theft. When I worked at toys R us, the cops showed up and perp walked the front end manager out who they had discovered embezzling, but they didn’t identify or prosecute any customers. They were so terrified of the risk of potential complaints by customers to the corporate overlords that they would let people return obviously fraudulent things all the time as long as the barcode would scan. My favorite was the car seat box with 2 pieces of wood in the bottom. I think Walmart operates on a different level than the rest.
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Jul 11, 2021 20:00
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Many states (California among them) have "civil demand" or "civil penalty" laws which basically allows the store to basically shake down people they catch shoplifting and say "pay us $X (usually many hundred dollars more than the value of whatever was stolen) right now as a penalty or we're going to file a lawsuit against you" but often if someone looks like they can pay (three guesses on how loss prevention "profiles" your ability to pay) it's put in the context of "if you pay us right now we won't call the cops" I've heard all the arguments how yeah yeah stores need compensation for their losses or oh it's such a good idea to keep people's records clean over something minor but IMHO it's no different than some mob boss going "nice storefront you got there be a real shame if it burned down someday" because you didn't pay protection. I'm sure it's incredibly profitable for the store and probably scares straight some one-time shoplifters but it just seems incredibly unethical to shake down people who probably can't afford to pay it in the first place because that's why they're shoplifting.
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Jul 11, 2021 23:51
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Vice President posted:Many states (California among them) have "civil demand" or "civil penalty" laws which basically allows the store to basically shake down people they catch shoplifting and say "pay us $X (usually many hundred dollars more than the value of whatever was stolen) right now as a penalty or we're going to file a lawsuit against you" but often if someone looks like they can pay (three guesses on how loss prevention "profiles" your ability to pay) it's put in the context of "if you pay us right now we won't call the cops" Most people don't steal to feed and cloth themselves. They do it because they think they can get away with getting something for free, and it is in no way unethical to gently caress those people over.
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Jul 11, 2021 23:58
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SpartanIvy posted:Have you ever worked retail? I worked retail for several years and can count the number of times people stole food (not including carts full of only meat or beer) on one hand. It was always Ipads, video games, Blu-rays, jewelry, expensive clothes, and other luxury goods. Lol narc. You’ve definetly never worked retail
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Jul 12, 2021 00:00
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As someone who has worked retail you have my blessing to steal luxury goods
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Jul 12, 2021 00:03
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https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-walmart-crime/ Unsurprisingly, WalMart intentionally spends less money on loss prevention than their peers because they know they can make the cops do it for free. Why use your own resources when you can use public resources that the community pays for? quote:Dennis Buckley found a way to get Walmart moving faster on crime: shaming and threats. A blunt former fire chief, Buckley is the mayor of Beech Grove, Ind., an Indianapolis suburb with a population of 14,000. He’d been swamped with complaints from his police chief about the daily calls to Walmart. He demanded action from Walmart’s local lawyer, as did the City Council. Nothing happened. Then, in June of last year, Buckley reached his limit. He received news that a local woman had been killed and her grandson seriously injured in a car crash caused by a Walmart shoplifter fleeing police. Later that day, he learned his town had become a laughingstock. A YouTube video of a fight at the Beech Grove Walmart was going viral. It showed two women, one riding a motorized scooter, the other accompanied by a 6-year-old boy, in a furious fistfight that turned into a profane wrestling match in the shampoo aisle. The video also contained glimpses of jeering bystanders recording the action on their phones. By the time Buckley saw the video, it had been viewed millions of times. huh weird force them to start paying for it and suddenly they don't need it as much
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Jul 12, 2021 00:11
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SpartanIvy posted:Have you ever worked retail? I worked retail for several years and can count the number of times people stole food (not including carts full of only meat or beer) on one hand. It was always Ipads, video games, Blu-rays, jewelry, expensive clothes, and other luxury goods. I sure have worked retail. Then and now I gave zero fucks about people stealing a $60 playstation game from a billion dollar corporation when I was getting hosed over on inconsistent scheduling and being always scheduled exactly just under the number of hours to be considered full time and get benefits and being taken advantage of by being "encouraged" to work off the clock or get fired and blatant anti-union propaganda trying to turn us all into snitches. We'd always hear about how corporate was on the manager's rear end about the shrink rate at the store and the LP guys all salivated at the chance to really impress the boss with some ace detective work like they were going to crack some international theft ring or something but I guarantee you nobody but the Dwight Schrutes gave a poo poo even when forced to do the "can I help you sir?" routine as someone is wheeling out a cart full of flatscreens. Lest I be accused of supporting Big Crime and the moral decay of society, remember kids, never steal from your local mom and pop store that actually cares about the community.
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Jul 12, 2021 00:20
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Well you sound like you had lots of high school aged coworkers who thought you were really cool, so congrats on your retail experience of sticking it to the man, I guess.
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Jul 12, 2021 00:35
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SpartanIvy posted:Well you sound like you had lots of high school aged coworkers who thought you were really cool, so congrats on your retail experience of sticking it to the man, I guess. Yep you have defintely never worked retail or worked there for like a summer
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Jul 12, 2021 00:46
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People earning minimum wage can steal necessities and also luxury goods from billion dollar corporations if they want to It's totally fine and even Good
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SpartanIvy posted:Well you sound like you had lots of high school aged coworkers who thought you were really cool, so congrats on your retail experience of sticking it to the man, I guess. Are you a mall security guard?
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Jul 12, 2021 01:01
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deedee megadoodoo posted:Are you a mall security guard? if he's a cop he has to tell us, it's like the law and everything
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Jul 12, 2021 01:39
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*switches to radio channel 3* they're onto me
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Jul 12, 2021 01:43
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I prefer stealing content from other threads.Invisible Clergy posted:AITA for laughing at my sister after she fell for a bitcoin scam?
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SpartanIvy posted:Have you ever worked retail? I worked retail for several years and can count the number of times people stole food (not including carts full of only meat or beer) on one hand. It was always Ipads, video games, Blu-rays, jewelry, expensive clothes, and other luxury goods. Luxury goods can be exchanged for money
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It's good to add some context to this: If we were able to somehow eliminate all the theft in this image we would still be left with a system where coorporations exploit consumers, coorporations exploit workers, the workers/consumers pay taxes and the coorporations do not while burning through common resources without having to pay for them.
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Jul 12, 2021 06:27
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deedee megadoodoo posted:90% of loss prevention is having employees who give a poo poo. But why would they? The only extent to which I give a gently caress about theft is that it screws up the stock numbers and sometimes leaves me looking for items that don't exist. But aside from that, lol, not my loving money. I've given away multiple things for free to sort out customer support issues without asking anyone, I just remember to give them a slip for it at the checkout counter so it gets properly subtracted from stock numbers. Also if I know it doesn't cause a problem later, I've happily tossed a lot of things that annoyed me into the trash compactor out back. It makes all evidence disappear. Probably some accountant somewhere is gonna cry about it, but lol, not my problem.
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Jul 12, 2021 09:02
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From a friend in LP, his public enemy #1 for a week was a pair of old ladies who was going around doing quick change scams with gift cards and $50/$100 bills. They’d get a couple hundred at a time and hit up a few stores per day. They worked the scam by having the second lady yell at the cashier for taking too long when the first lady asked for change for multiple large bills, so it kind of sucked compared to the people who would brazenly load up a cart with wine and meat and walk out of the store.
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Jul 12, 2021 11:40
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Idgaf about shoplifters in big ol corporate stores, you do you. No skin off my nose. Quick change artists are a different breed. They're assholes, and when they're successful it gives lovely management just another excuse to abuse (typically young) employees for "screwing up". gently caress them, throw them into a pit.
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Jul 12, 2021 12:36
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https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1414514547986141192
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Jul 12, 2021 12:37
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The sale gets 120 star review for sure.
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Jul 12, 2021 13:47
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Only once witnessed someone get busted for shoplifting in my retail time. Worked at a warehouse store as a cart pusher (among other roles). It was late evening and we were caught up, so I was just hanging around with the receipt checkers. Manager walks up and talks to one of the checkers, then walks away. A guy approaches with a 30-ish gallon air compressor in a box on a flat bed and presents his receipt. Checker looks at the receipt, then opens up the compressor box and pulls out the haul: an extension cord. That's it. Dude got busted stealing an extension cord on top of his few hundred dollar purchase. Police were called and everything. (edit: I suspect someone just saw him jamming stuff in the box and reported it, not knowing that it was just a few bucks worth of stuff). Other than that, someone did a show-and-tell of a cart that had like 30 of those plastic anti-theft CD/DVD things in it (empty, naturally). And watched one employee dip from aisle to aisle hiding behind stuff tailing someone suspected of shoplifting. Oh and one time the store got really anti-shoplifting, so they instituted a "bag check" policy. Got to watch a receipt checker rifle through someone's purse exactly once before that policy quietly disappeared. Power of Pecota posted:I mean if you're that kid, how do you figure that out without combing through your whole order item by item? And then They don't. All they're generally doing is making sure you're obviously trying to steal poo poo. Receipt checkers at warehouse stores are just counting, that's why there's a big "you bought X items" at the bottom of the receipt. If there's big ticket items they'll double check that they were rung up, but generally they're just making sure the number of items in your cart matches what the receipt says, and if there's a discrepancy you're sent to the customer service desk to fix it. Probably saw just as many under-charges as I saw over-charges. But in a grocery store situation, unless there's high dollar stuff, they're not going to waste their time on it. I can't tell you how many times I've gotten free stuff (as a customer) simply because the item wouldn't scan. Holding up a line of people and having someone even making minimum wage spend 5 minutes trying to figure something out is not a money maker for an item that sells for $3, especially considering how razor thin grocery store margins are. It's not worth their time to worry about one-off small stuff, it's the big stuff and repeat offenders that they're really going after. edit: should clarify, I didn't steal poo poo. If an item wouldn't scan, the cashier or manager would just "whoops" it in to a bag. DaveSauce fucked around with this message at 14:19 on Jul 12, 2021 |
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I used to live in a neighborhood that you knew had a problem because the dollar store had a "no bags" policy and they wouldn't let me in unless I let them hold my backpack and briefcase until I checked out.
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Jul 12, 2021 14:12
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In honor of our new TikTok embedding, please enjoy this lady who does geo guessing but for MLM pitches. https://www.tiktok.com/embed/6983132051960597765
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BonerGhost posted:Idgaf about shoplifters in big ol corporate stores, you do you. No skin off my nose. Reminds me of when I was working as HR in retail (I did 29 years) and one of my store managers called me to say he was launching an investigation into one of his 18 year old cashiers who had been done out of £50 by a scammer with the notes/change trick. It took me ages to get him to see that the cashier had been a victim of a crime and deducting the loss from her pay was not in fact okay.
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Typically it’s easy to guess where high theft areas will be (the rougher neighborhoods), but self checkout registers spread the love. Uber rich folks will scan 2lbs of prime wagyu steak as 2lbs of ground beef and take the savings back to their multi million dollar homes to pair with their $250 bottles of wine that were scanned out as a $10 cupcake bottle.
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Quick change artists are different as it’s pretty easy to find the cashier to blame That’s when it’s worth giving a poo poo
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quote:How do i rebut a friend that says Bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme? quote:Bitcoin is not a Ponzi Scheme. quote:
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Jul 12, 2021 14:53
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Always a good sign when you have to write at length about how your plan to get rich quick isn’t technically a Ponzi Scheme.
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When I worked at best buy around 2003 they gave me a long speech about how carefully and thoroughly employees were tracked for purchases and using their discount. How you couldn't ever ring up an item for yourself etc etc. Then one of the store managers rolls in, grabs a flat screen worth thousands, hauls it to the front of the store, unlocks a register with his account, and buys it. The next day he brings just the receipt, logs into a register again, and returns it. On the third day he got walked out in handcuffs. Nobody knew how he thought he'd get away with it.
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