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Dwesa posted:This sounds like mental illness. He indeed might be having an episode
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Today is independance day. Instituted by Luka, previous one was I think in september when Shushkevich actually signed the dissolution of USSR. Here is how Belarusians celebrate in 2021 nobody fucken came except for cops.
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Which one did Belarus celebrate before Lukashenko? I think there is a July date and also an August date.
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It used to be July 27.
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Protasevich is under house arrest and now he's back on twitter. https://twitter.com/protas_by/status/1412767108128296963 This can only mean he's made a deal with the investigative committee, and is now going to expose the evils of opposition leaders. Unless he has something clever in mind, but after the press conference, it's very unlikely. The replies are already full of staunch Lukashenko supporters with 0 followers. Extremely inconspicuous.
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https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1413452933354561541 Will any of this make a difference?
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Meantime in Russia. 'The Taliban movement (banned in Russia) delegation press conference in Moscow'
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In case anyone wondering - yes, actual terrorist group 'diplomats' flew to Russia capital and are holding a diplomatic event. No arrests, nothing. They are not exposing government corruption after all, no need to take action!
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Erulisse posted:In case anyone wondering - yes, actual terrorist group 'diplomats' flew to Russia capital and are holding a diplomatic event. What? How? Why?
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Supposedly they’re there on invitation from special consul on Afghanistan of Russia, to discuss potential spillover of likely ramping tensions across borders with neighbouring nations.Paladinus posted:Meantime in Russia. Естественно осуждаю, но иначе довольно занимательно конечно. 
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Erulisse posted:In case anyone wondering - yes, actual terrorist group 'diplomats' flew to Russia capital and are holding a diplomatic event. You realize that American diplomats also met with the Taliban correct?  The US, for the record, does not recognize the Taliban as a terrorist group as quote:
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Dropping into the Eastern Europe thread to inform Eastern Europeans talking about Eastern Europe, "but what about the United States"
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Vasukhani posted:The US, for the record, does not recognize the Taliban as a terrorist group as
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Somaen posted:Dropping into the Eastern Europe thread to inform Eastern Europeans talking about Eastern Europe, "but what about the United States" If a country that has been at war with a group for two decades decides its time to meet, it doesn't seem too shocking that a country which conflict with the Taliban consisted of one joint airbase and rumors of fighters in the the Caucasus would. What else would you suggest? Afghanistan is almost Russia's neighborhood. Taliban officials have also met with Indian and Chinese officials. It seems like an absolutely absurd thing to condemn Russia for. https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2021/7/7/why-did-india-open-a-backchannel-to-the-taliban https://www.reuters.com/article/us-afghanistan-taliban-china/afghanistans-taliban-meets-chinese-government-in-beijing-idUSKBN1W70I3 wisconsingreg fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Jul 9, 2021 |
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Vasukhani posted:If a country that has been at war with a group for two decades decides its time to meet, it doesn't seem too shocking that a country which conflict with the Taliban consisted of one joint airbase and rumors of fighters in the the Caucasus would. What else would you suggest? Afghanistan is almost Russia's neighborhood. I don't give a gently caress what the US does. The context of the outrage is that Russia has been using the terrorist label in a legal way to gently caress over non-Kremlin controlled parties (e.g. Navalny's movement) and persecute people related to it, and in a propaganda way against other movements like the Syrian opposition being all labelled as Al Queda to justify the war crimes there. One independant trying to get elected is trying to get Lavrov to get banned from the elections because he met with representatives of a terrorist organization, which is exactly what happened with people dealing with the network of Navalny's regional offices: https://www.dw.com/ru/litvinovich-trebuet-ne-dopuskat-er-k-vyboram-iz-za-vstrech-lavrova-s-talibami/a-58215792 quote:"Согласно закону об "Основных гарантиях избирательных прав" в выборах не могут участвовать люди, которые связаны с такого рода организациями", - написала Литвинович. "Считаю, что все встречи, проведенные Лавровым с группировкой "Талибан" (запрещенная в РФ организация) являются основанием для того, чтобы не регистрировать список "Единой России", - добавила она.
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I’m not sure why this needs to be said, but Taliban conversation is about Russian government and bears no relevance to actual Afghanistan affairs. The initial post did very transparently poke at Russian government’s habit of declaring everything from the Taliban to Hesburger a terrorist organisation.
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Somaen posted:I don't give a gently caress what the US does. The context of the outrage is that Russia has been using the terrorist label in a legal way to gently caress over non-Kremlin controlled parties (e.g. Navalny's movement) and persecute people related to it, and in a propaganda way against other movements like the Syrian opposition being all labelled as Al Queda to justify the war crimes there. One independant trying to get elected is trying to get Lavrov to get banned from the elections because he met with representatives of a terrorist organization, which is exactly what happened with people dealing with the network of Navalny's regional offices: https://www.dw.com/ru/litvinovich-trebuet-ne-dopuskat-er-k-vyboram-iz-za-vstrech-lavrova-s-talibami/a-58215792 Oh well that makes sense, thank you. Now imaging a comedy world of a more legalistic russian government where putin is quietly informed he can no longer participate in the government.
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Then isn't this a good omen that Putin might negotiate with Navalny? 
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Nenonen posted:Then isn't this a good omen that Putin might negotiate with Navalny? Nope, if anything it just underscore that rules are their to uphold their interests, not to constrain them.
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Nenonen posted:Then isn't this a good omen that Putin might negotiate with Navalny? And then is removed from power for his connections to known terror groups. cinci zoo sniper posted:I’m not sure why this needs to be said, but Taliban conversation is about Russian government and bears no relevance to actual Afghanistan affairs. The initial post did very transparently poke at Russian government’s habit of declaring everything from the Taliban to Hesburger a terrorist organisation. It was more the "What? How? Why?" that led me astray, as if meeting with the wisconsingreg fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Jul 9, 2021 |
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double post, but good place to ask I guess. Anyone here get sputnik? trying to convince moscow based friend that he should. He said there was a lot of uptick recently since they've required it to go to bars, lol. wisconsingreg fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Jul 10, 2021 |
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Vasukhani posted:double post, but good place to ask I guess. Wife's a covid doctor. Try to get KoviVac if you can, but vaccinate anyway, sputnik seems to be allright now. 'Sputnik lite' is decent too for the one shot that it is (3 weeks to 3 months or something).
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Vasukhani posted:double post, but good place to ask I guess. Sputnik is perfectly fine. Everyone I know who vaccinated with it got their antibodies. It just works, I don't know what else to say.
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Paladinus posted:Sputnik is perfectly fine. Everyone I know who vaccinated with it got their antibodies. It just works, I don't know what else to say. I know it works, the guy just "doesn't feel the need to yet." He's a STEM grad student btw, they've really managed to do a number on the roll out with the whole public trust thing.
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The evidence on Sputnik and Sinovac's way more equivocal than other vaccines, but none of them appear harmful and you should grab whichever one you can get access to.
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Vasukhani posted:double post, but good place to ask I guess. The only bad thing about the Sputnik vaccine is that the adenovirus used to communicate with your body might not be disactivated due to manufacturing issues. So you might get an adenovirus infection. This is riskier than it should be, but practically not risky. Certainly not dangerous like say... Catching covid. You should think of this like the cowpox virus in the smallpox vaccine. So it's a virus and you might get an infection but it's so much less dangerous than what you're vaccinating against that you're stupid if you don't take it (of course the better option if available is an mRNA vaccine)
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https://twitter.com/pudlashuk/status/1414018459978158082?s=21 I’ll allow it
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frankenfreak posted:"We don't negotiate with terrorists" means "If we negotiate with them, they're not terrorists" apparently. International law recognizes non-government combatants (guerillas of all sorts, armed groups controlling some territory without being recognized as official governments etc.) as valid subjects for applying the principles of IL, so there's absolutely nothing irregular about US or any other diplomats meeting with representatives of a group that is not recognized as representing any sovereign government. If anything, it's the insistence that any armed subject that isn't tied to a recognized government is a terrorist group that must be treated as anathema is a dangerous aberration, and a product of internalized Bush-era rhetoric.
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Some great news to start the week - Maia Sandu's party in Moldova won an outright majority and won't have to go into a coalition with one of the weird oligarch parties
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how is Maia Sandu winning "great news"? like, sure everyone else in the country sucks, but mrs "lets mortgage whats left of the country off to the imf and world bank" is about the worst case scenario for a small country like Moldova Zedhe Khoja fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Jul 12, 2021 |
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Zedhe Khoja posted:how is Maia Sandu winning "great news"? Depends on your perspective. She wants Moldova to join EU, so it’s fairly good news for European integration proponents. Incidentally, doing so would substantially help Moldova on the other fronts of her platform, corruption prevention and economic development.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Depends on your perspective. She wants Moldova to join EU, so it’s fairly good news for European integration proponents. Incidentally, doing so would substantially help Moldova on the other fronts of her platform, corruption prevention and economic development. joining the EU is rarely good news for small poor countries, and that platform is just generic buzzwords. being "against corruption" or being "pro economic development" is what you say when you don't actually want to be honest about your platform.
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http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181 a nice non-threating article there Putin.
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Zedhe Khoja posted:joining the EU is rarely good news for small poor countries, and that platform is just generic buzzwords. being "against corruption" or being "pro economic development" is what you say when you don't actually want to be honest about your platform. I’m from a small, poor Eastern European country that joined EU in identical circumstances, and it has worked out great for us. On that note, “anti-corruption” platforms generally mean fairly specific stuff in Eastern Europe, since nearly all of us have or have had identically structured public governance issues rooted in nepotism or oligarchy. cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Jul 12, 2021 |
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Zedhe Khoja posted:joining the EU is rarely good news for small poor countries, and that platform is just generic buzzwords. being "against corruption" or being "pro economic development" is what you say when you don't actually want to be honest about your platform. Hmm yes truly. Great insight there "anti-corruption politicians are islamophobic Nazi demons" guy. EU is bad, proven by the last 30 years of countries in the EU and outside of it
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cinci zoo sniper posted:I’m from a small, poor Eastern European country that joined EU in identical circumstances, and it has worked out great for us. On that note, “anti-corruption” platforms generally mean fairly specific stuff in Eastern Europe, since nearly all of us have of have had identically structured public governance issues rooted in nepotism or oligarchy. tbf Latvia is actually in a much better position that Moldova on that regard, no real territorial disputes plus nearly double the gdp per capita when it joined. Moldova is definitely a test of the flexibility of the EU if it joins.
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Somaen posted:Hmm yes truly. Great insight there "anti-corruption politicians are islamophobic Nazi demons" guy. nah just the one that domes women in burqas in their political ads sorry your hero did that
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Would Moldova have much support to join in the EU now? The net contributors dont want another hungry mouth and the net recipients dont want to have to cut the pie into smaller sliced. I assume Romania would support them though.
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Vasukhani posted:http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181 Thanks for taking the time to present your movie script, Vova. We will review it promptly and let you know if our studio can help you by the end of this month.
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Vasukhani posted:tbf Latvia is actually in a much better position that Moldova on that regard, no real territorial disputes plus nearly double the gdp per capita when it joined. Moldova is definitely a test of the flexibility of the EU if it joins. Calling Abrene a fake territorial dispute is a bit a of a stretch, but it’s nowhere near Transnistria for sure. On the other hand, especially back in early naughts we had significantly more culturally divided society. Either way, if Albania and North Macedonia are doing okay on the accession front - the latter having to change its name and may also end up with figurative concessions to the clowns presiding over Bulgaria - and if Gibraltar’s Brexit story was resolved without noteworthy drama, I’m sure the Moldovan case is not mission impossible. Baudolino posted:Would Moldova have much support to join in the EU now? The net contributors dont want another hungry mouth and the net recipients dont want to have to cut the pie into smaller sliced. I assume Romania would support them though. More likely than not, there are significant currents within more influential EU member states to incorporate all of the Balkans region into it ~eventually~, in part as means of tacit econocultural warfare against Russia or China. With Turkey sure, the question is if Germany and France want to admit someone as large into the union, as that could significantly alter the EP power balance. For anything on this side of Bosporous, in my opinion, the primary question should be if there are any unresolved grievances of national character between the existing member states and a potential candidate. cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Jul 12, 2021 |
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