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CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

facialimpediment posted:

From what I'm gathering, the Kraken idiots are also trying to say NO I DIDN'T LIE, YOU DIDN'T JUDGE THIS ON THE MERITS, I WANT AN EVIDENTIARY HEARING which is... bold to do in a hearing about sanctions.

Yeah they keep screaming about how a Jury would buy their claims, despite the fact that the judge has shot down nearly all their filing claims.

Even Campbell is struggling to justify it in their defense.

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boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
https://twitter.com/bbcworld/status/1414436202032345088?s=21

This is such a 2021 headline jfc

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
The doomers all whining about how this is an bad omen need to go take some tower selfies in a thunderstorm.

loving bad omen my aching balls idiots dying to hubris and ignorance isn't exactly a loving tragedy.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

CommieGIR posted:

Yeah they keep screaming about how a Jury would buy their claims, despite the fact that the judge has shot down nearly all their filing claims.

Even Campbell is struggling to justify it in their defense.

https://twitter.com/Ugarles/status/1414625453567094793?s=19

It's not that they have nothing, it's that they aggressively have nothing. Judges generally want cases to just go away, as sanctions take a lot of work, but these Krackheads are too stupid to even play ball and get out of the sanctions.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
They must have taken legal notes from Phoenix Wright prosecutors.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

facialimpediment posted:

https://twitter.com/Ugarles/status/1414625453567094793?s=19

It's not that they have nothing, it's that they aggressively have nothing. Judges generally want cases to just go away, as sanctions take a lot of work, but these Krackheads are too stupid to even play ball and get out of the sanctions.

They keep citing their gish gallop of affidavits and "experts" that have all been panned already.

ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!



CommieGIR posted:

They keep citing their gish gallop of affidavits and "experts" that have all been panned already.

The gish gallopers. The motor mouths. The elocution epidemicans. You know. Morons.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

ThisIsJohnWayne posted:

The gish gallopers. The motor mouths. The elocution epidemicans. You know. Morons.

Campbell is doing something really stupid in openly attacking the judge's viewing of the case, what the hell is he doing?

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

CommieGIR posted:

Campbell is doing something really stupid in openly attacking the judge's viewing of the case, what the hell is he doing?

They are insane.

That’s as far as you ever need to think about any decision these psychos make.

They are loving insane.

BUG JUG
Feb 17, 2005



CommieGIR posted:

Campbell is doing something really stupid in openly attacking the judge's viewing of the case, what the hell is he doing?

Trying to get a mistrial.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

BUG JUG posted:

Trying to get a mistrial.

That might make sense.

Jarmak
Jan 24, 2005

bulletsponge13 posted:

Sorry- I misread your post first thing in the morning and did dumb with my comprehension.

You were right.

No worries, I probably should have been clearer in my intent when I referenced static line stuff.

Jarmak
Jan 24, 2005

BUG JUG posted:

Trying to get a mistrial.

Don't think sanctions hearings work like that.

Edit: Also holy poo poo these lawyers are bad. IANAL, but I've studied enough law to know not to give these answers.

I'd equate their defence to defending a murder charge by saying "Sure I pointed a gun at him and fired, but it was the bullets that killed him :smug:". They keep essentially admitting what they are accused of but acting like it's okay because they did it on purpose.

Jarmak fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Jul 12, 2021

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Jarmak posted:

Don't think sanctions hearings work like that.

Do they think they do tho? Remember, these are people who heard about the "post fact" society we are in and celebrated

Jarmak
Jan 24, 2005

Is there an actual feed somewhere? I'm F5ing a Twitter thread.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Jarmak posted:

Is there an actual feed somewhere? I'm F5ing a Twitter thread.

Come watch the circus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWXcGBOJemU

Notahippie
Feb 4, 2003

Kids, it's not cool to have Shane MacGowan teeth

CommieGIR posted:

That might make sense.

From Twitter it sounded like he had a good strategy in the first half of the trial, undermined by an inability of his clients to STFU, followed by a recess interpreted as him trying to get control over them, followed by a facepalm period while they poo poo the bed repeatedly and now he's attacking the judge. It might actually be strategic - it sounds (again, through Twitter) like he's actually fairly competent but has terrible clients.

As Nero Danced
Sep 3, 2009

Alright, let's do this

Been hunting all over for this but was coming up empty, thank you.

Apparently at one point the judge was shouting at someone to shut up and stop interrupting her :allears:

Jarmak
Jan 24, 2005


This is amazing sir, thank you.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
This judge appears to be making a record so that her sanctions can't be overturned on appeal.

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1414636865009995786

What's basically going on here is Terminal Fox News Brain, amplified by Donnie, as he also had Terminal Fox News Brain. A whole section of oldass Republicans have basically decided that the lies they told or were told are true, so therefore all of this bullshit is justified to get Donnie back into power. That means the breaking of every rule is fully justified and it's not like lawyers were somehow immune to getting Terminal Fox News Brain.

Eventually, reality kind of pokes in, but the Fox News Brain rebels and will try to change the topic to anything else. OR THE DEMOCRATS DID IT

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

facialimpediment posted:

This judge appears to be making a record so that her sanctions can't be overturned on appeal.

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1414636865009995786

What's basically going on here is Terminal Fox News Brain, amplified by Donnie, as he also had Terminal Fox News Brain. A whole section of oldass Republicans have basically decided that the lies they told or were told are true, so therefore all of this bullshit is justified to get Donnie back into power. That means the breaking of every rule is fully justified and it's not like lawyers were somehow immune to getting Terminal Fox News Brain.

Eventually, reality kind of pokes in, but the Fox News Brain rebels and will try to change the topic to anything else. OR THE DEMOCRATS DID IT

The hilarious part is they act like anyone is going to take their lawsuit seriously and keep DEMANDING evidentiary hearings despite the fact that they lost nearly any and all appeals.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010

Against All Tyrants

Ultra Carp
https://twitter.com/DemocracyDocket/status/1414631168348196867?s=19

As Nero Danced
Sep 3, 2009

Alright, let's do this
"You said 'there are too many supreme court cases to cite to justify our case.' I've got time, please list them."

She failed to list them.

This is not going well for the krakenfolk

BUG JUG
Feb 17, 2005



Jarmak posted:

Don't think sanctions hearings work like that.

Edit: Also holy poo poo these lawyers are bad. IANAL, but I've studied enough law to know not to give these answers.

I'd equate their defence to defending a murder charge by saying "Sure I pointed a gun at him and fired, but it was the bullets that killed him :smug:". They keep essentially admitting what they are accused of but acting like it's okay because they did it on purpose.

i couldn't think of the phrasing but appeal seems to be the process that the lawyer is trying to go for: make the judge combative, take it to appeal and say: look we just wanted X but judge let personal biases cloud his judgement, plz throw out sanctions.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

Platystemon posted:

It’s not just that. It stuff like “with the power of friendship, we fixed up some rich rear end in a top hat’s abandoned yacht in a apocalyptic hellscape and flew it to safety”.

If not for plot armor, everyone would be dead a dozen times over from life support failure, and that’s not even counting combat.

excuse me, are you doubting the repair prowess of amos motherfucking burton?

if so, I have a can of chicken for you.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

facialimpediment posted:

Not going great for Team Kraken in court today, thought it's just stupid throughout instead of short bursts of weapons-grade stupid:

https://twitter.com/AkivaMCohen/status/1414586818113286144?s=19

Edit: hey Mr. Nice, is it a good idea to WELL, ACTUALLY a judge about this kind of thing? :v:

https://twitter.com/AndrewFeinberg/status/1414592727627468804?s=19

I haven't read all the posts, but, no. This has been an insane hearing and the judge completely carpet bombed one attorney earlier.

e: caught up that people were talking about it. It's been loving insane.

Mr. Nice! fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Jul 12, 2021

Sarern
Nov 4, 2008

:toot:
Won't you take me to
Bomertown?
Won't you take me to
BONERTOWN?

:toot:

MA-Horus posted:

excuse me, are you doubting the repair prowess of amos motherfucking burton?

if so, I have a can of chicken for you.

I am now unsure if this is a current events thread or an Expanse thread.

ASAPI
Apr 20, 2007
I invented the line.

Sarern posted:

I am now unsure if this is a current events thread or an Expanse thread.

At this point, is there a difference?

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?

lol the court reporter started giving them poo poo for the constant interruptions

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
https://twitter.com/etotheipie/status/1414640406223069185?s=19

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Yup. And now that the coup failed on the 6th, they are stuck trying to explain this away, hence their constant demand through the hearing being they be allowed to present their evidence.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

CommieGIR posted:

Yup. And now that the coup failed on the 6th, they are stuck trying to explain this away, hence their constant demand through the hearing being they be allowed to present their evidence.

Sorta. There are a lot of true believers trying to convince People In The Real World that they not true believers, as that gets themselves out of the trouble. But there are some true believers that absolutely cannot stop themselves from shaking hands with danger because they believe the coup should've won because fraudulent stolen election democrats:

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1414678974870040584

Like for instance, that YouTube court livestream is dead, and court reporters are like AAAAAAAAAA as they're already spooked:

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1414681927911677954

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

90s Solo Cup posted:

Cue the inevitable email about Saul complaining his credentials don't work.
"Dude, you don't even work here anymore."
"Says you." :argh:

Yup.

https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1414687434013564928

The usual Biden method - minimal drama, get the gently caress out, followed by a "did I stutter?"

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

facialimpediment posted:

Yup.

https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1414687434013564928

The usual Biden method - minimal drama, get the gently caress out, followed by a "did I stutter?"

Its incredibly ironic because this is exactly what the Conservatives pushed for in removing Department heads under Trump. They assumed they would hold the presidency another four years.

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
It's not even surprising anymore. Precedent doesn't mean poo poo to them. At this point the Republican platform is nakedly authoritarian "our team good your team bad".

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





At this point I doubt there's any argument, but here's a fine example of just how contagious Delta is:

https://i.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/wellington/125732273/covid19-confirmation-of-15--covid19-cases-on-viking-bay-docked-in-wellington

In barely a week, the 2 positive cases have infected 13, bringing it to a 75% hit rate on board.

Christ.

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
Covid cases went up 47% last week in the US.

This will be our second *actual* surge since we never actually have a gently caress and things only started getting better when vaccines started becoming available.

Waiting for the hot take that we are doing much better because we have only had two surges.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

facialimpediment posted:

Like for instance, that YouTube court livestream is dead, and court reporters are like AAAAAAAAAA as they're already spooked:

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1414681927911677954

Aren't most court proceedings of public record outside of things involving minors? Why doesn't the judge want people to watch the fun?

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
She doesn't want them to intentionally put on a circus for the broader audience.

Edit: A totally valid correction.

Godholio fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Jul 13, 2021

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Jarmak
Jan 24, 2005

Godholio posted:

He doesn't want them to intentionally put on a circus for the broader audience.

Not to call you out specifically, because you're far from the first person I've seen make this mistake, but Judge Parker is a women.

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