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Acute Grill posted:The Joker is easily the least consistent character between batman adaptations so I kinda think it depends on what your most familiar with. Like in The Animated Series he really leans in on gag props and circus motifs while The Dark Knight's Joker is a terrorist who likes face paint. Canonically, there are multiple Jokers.
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Jul 12, 2021 13:40
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Terrible Opinions posted:There is ComicTropes but he is mostly in the SFDebris school and mainly recapping stuff that he occasionally feels strongly enough to talk about why it's good/bad. Didn't ComicTropes start to lean too hard into the whole "I'm not saying making Wolverine was a girl but sales are down* and SOMEthing might be the problem hmmmm makes you think?" or was that Comicstorian? *Sales are not actually down. They had a noticeable dip in 2017 I think it was but that was Hydra Cap and possibly peak crossover burnout at Marvel but they're doing fine.
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Jul 12, 2021 14:20
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Dawgstar posted:Didn't ComicTropes start to lean too hard into the whole "I'm not saying making Wolverine was a girl but sales are down* and SOMEthing might be the problem hmmmm makes you think?" or was that Comicstorian? I don't think that was ComicTropes, he has never given the impression of being anything other than a decent dude, and if nothing else rarely seems to talk about sales figures much.
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Jul 12, 2021 14:25
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Fil5000 posted:I don't think that was ComicTropes, he has never given the impression of being anything other than a decent dude, and if nothing else rarely seems to talk about sales figures much. Yeah that doesn't sound at all like ComicTropes to me either. Could believe it was Comicstorian though.
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Jul 12, 2021 14:29
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A comic review show without the superhero malarkey would be pretty cool tbh. I sometimes stumble across some French ones, but my French is just not good enough to follow them.
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Jul 12, 2021 14:51
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Dapper_Swindler posted:sure My experience of watching Hateful Eight is putting the DVD in the laptop's CD drive, pausing it two-thirds through, and then the laptop broke, the CD got stuck in the drive, and I had to wait months to get it fixed and see the rest of the movie.
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Jul 12, 2021 15:21
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Takoluka posted:Canonically, there are multiple Jokers.  (I hope everyone here has played Xenoblade)
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Jul 12, 2021 15:26
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The Great Clown Posting War of 2021josh04 posted:He's a popular new breakout character who is simultaneously Batman and also the Joker, I'm surprised he's not on the logo. "Bat-Joker Comics" (AKA BJ Comics) does have a better ring to it than "Detective Comics Comics"
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Jul 12, 2021 15:49
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DeafNote posted:(I hope everyone here has played Xenoblade) lol no
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Jul 12, 2021 16:16
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Takoluka posted:Canonically, there are multiple Jokers. i just mean visually. like i dont picture mickey as a mouse even though thats what he is.
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Jul 12, 2021 16:27
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josh04 posted:He's a popular new breakout character who is simultaneously Batman and also the Joker, I'm surprised he's not on the logo.
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Jul 12, 2021 16:32
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Terrible Opinions posted:He looks like he's a missing member of Judge Death's posse. Have had that same thought, like he feels almost infringement levels of close to Judge Death lol  Also it really doesn't help his case that he basically hijacked a chunk of other characters books even if their series was completely tonally different, and even got one killed because of it, namely Supergirl, where he blunders in and farts his stupid corruption storyline all over it, the sales for her book dropped like a sack of hammers because nobody was reading Supergirl for that and it got cancelled as a result. Yardbomb fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Jul 12, 2021 |
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Jul 12, 2021 17:01
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Isn’t Batman Who Laughs from an isolated universe that’s specifically meant to be as stupidly edgelordy as possible? Because in that regard it’s sorta appealing to see these laughable concepts actually drawn out - concepts you normally need to go to fanfic to get. Or did they do the usual comics thing and make him escape the isolated universe and demand you take him seriously now?
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Jul 12, 2021 17:36
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Pigbuster posted:Isn’t Batman Who Laughs from an isolated universe that’s specifically meant to be as stupidly edgelordy as possible? Because in that regard it’s sorta appealing to see these laughable concepts actually drawn out - concepts you normally need to go to fanfic to get. My understanding is this so the DC multiverse is broken up into different earths of ascending fantasticalness - Earth 0 is us, Earth 1 is a little bit weirder, earth 100 would be funtimes anime land. Also the scale goes down, so earth -10 would be a place that's as worse than earth 0 as earth 10 is better so the batman who laughs finds out that his earth is, like, cosmically designed to be as lovely as possible, and decides to take over the positive multiverse in revenge? I think? I think he's been at the center of more than one big crossover event at this point. (so yes, they did the usual comics thing)
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Jul 12, 2021 17:44
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egg tats posted:My understanding is this After Infinite Crisis there were a set 52 alternate realities (not all of them specifically outlined or noted as previously published Elseworlds), and they're not tied to "level" of weirdness. Earth 0 is the DC comic's current default setting, it's not "our" earth. Whether or not IRL is a "canon" earth flops around a lot. DC has a habit of going in the most literal direction with a lot of things. So someone was like "Oh, well there's Earth 0 to 52.... then that must mean there are negative numbers too!" So for the Dark Knights: Metal event, they made the Dark Multiverse. That's where The Batman Who Laughs is from. The event was all about evil Batmens from the negative multiverse. Nuns with Guns fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Jul 12, 2021 |
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Jul 12, 2021 18:04
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I feel like I could care way more about comics if they didn't try to have continuity. all the formal multiverse explanations makes me feel sleepy
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Jul 12, 2021 19:39
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Dabir posted:The only good version of the "what if Batman but Joker" thing is the one in the The Batman cartoon where the Joker just puts on a cheap Batman costume and goes around hassling the other villains while doing a silly voice. The second Season of Telltale's Batman had a fun take on it too I think. Granted, that was Joker trying to be Batman instead of Bruce Wayne as the Joker. https://twitter.com/RetroFirearms/status/1409528112057102337?s=19
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Jul 12, 2021 19:44
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Nuns with Guns posted:After Infinite Crisis there were a set 52 alternate realities (not all of them specifically outlined or noted as previously published Elseworlds), and they're not tied to "level" of weirdness. Earth 0 is the DC comic's current default setting, it's not "our" earth. Whether or not IRL is a "canon" earth flops around a lot. My favourite of the evil Batmen was the one that just like, had a load of guns. Someone thought of that as a character concept, "what if rich man buy gun".
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Jul 12, 2021 19:52
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Famethrowa posted:I feel like I could care way more about comics if they didn't try to have continuity. all the formal multiverse explanations makes me feel sleepy Like 90% of the time continuity doesn't matter to cape comics. And then Marvel and DC need to justify some big event so suddenly they have to have a reason to derail a half dozen comics with cross promotions and gobbledygook universe-spanning nonsense. Sometimes you get a writer who can make all that garbled nonsense fun, usually times it's either incoherent or dull. Such is life, I suppose.
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Jul 12, 2021 19:53
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Basically every story that tries to juxtapose Batman and the Joker ends up pretty shallow, since there aren't really that many similarities between the two, outside one being the hero and one the villain of the story.
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Jul 12, 2021 19:54
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Antigravitas posted:A comic review show without the superhero malarkey would be pretty cool tbh. Guy from India who I like quite a bit. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHWewIR09S61SA5egCaa7Iw Another European guy who I also like. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1ZtauWih38Lr1aVEXuZybw
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Jul 12, 2021 20:01
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Fil5000 posted:My favourite of the evil Batmen was the one that just like, had a load of guns. Someone thought of that as a character concept, "what if rich man buy gun". Without Dark Nights we would have never had Baby Darkseid  So ultimately, I think we won out in the end.
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Jul 12, 2021 20:02
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Jordan7hm posted:Guy from India who I like quite a bit.  Let's see what wrong things earl grey has to say about Sky Doll.e: oh look a German. That accent…
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Jul 12, 2021 20:06
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Pigbuster posted:Isn’t Batman Who Laughs from an isolated universe that’s specifically meant to be as stupidly edgelordy as possible? Because in that regard it’s sorta appealing to see these laughable concepts actually drawn out - concepts you normally need to go to fanfic to get. yeah. he is from some like negative ear or some poo poo. negative earths are like where the weired hosed up variets come from. e X posted:Basically every story that tries to juxtapose Batman and the Joker ends up pretty shallow, since there aren't really that many similarities between the two, outside one being the hero and one the villain of the story. a comic dude a i follow says that either two-face/riddler/scarecrow make better rivals from batman and i sorta agree. i like the joker but he is a coin toss if he is well written and or interesting.
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Jul 12, 2021 20:11
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oh goddamnit I thought "Batman Who Laughs" was like, a dumb fan name for a villain they hadn't gotten around to naming yet, not his actual canon name
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Jul 12, 2021 20:44
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A guy who I follow on Twitter summed up the problem with evil versions of Batman: stories where Batman becomes evil are ultimately about how cool Batman is. Stories where Superman turns evil are also ultimately about how cool Batman is. Cool it with the Batman stuff for a bit, DC
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Jul 12, 2021 21:10
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I like the Justice Lords plot from JLA because it's not about how cool Batman is, but rather how cool the Flash is. Also I am a sucker for the scene where Justice Lord Batman points out that his methods - while extreme - have created a world where his parents would never have been shot and actual Batman has no counter and actually surrenders and joins with the bad guys for a bit.
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Jul 12, 2021 21:22
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Raycevick looks at games about modern warfare before COD4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kJlGVbBEaw He also looks at America's Army: True Soldiers.
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Jul 12, 2021 21:36
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Oh man, I just looked up the origin story of the Batman who Laughs and it contains this: quote:Batman was later drugged by Joker, temporarily paralyzing his body but not his mind, so he could witness the chaos he caused without being able to do anything about it. The Joker bombed a hospital in front of Bruce and, to make it personal, shot dead the parents of many young children in front of him before proceeding to inject the children with an incurable, irreversible strain of Joker Venom. That is hilariously over the top, is this thing written by Mark Millar or something
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Jul 12, 2021 21:39
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e X posted:Basically every story that tries to juxtapose Batman and the Joker ends up pretty shallow, since there aren't really that many similarities between the two, outside one being the hero and one the villain of the story. Yeah, Mr Freeze always seemed like the "what if Batman was a bad?" candidate since they're both characters who became what they are due to poorly coping with the loss of a loved one. Like without the Batman parelell he's just another guy goin around.
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Jul 12, 2021 21:39
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Nuns with Guns posted:After Infinite Crisis there were a set 52 alternate realities (not all of them specifically outlined or noted as previously published Elseworlds), and they're not tied to "level" of weirdness. Earth 0 is the DC comic's current default setting, it's not "our" earth. Whether or not IRL is a "canon" earth flops around a lot. This is the exact poo poo Umberto Eco was going on about back in '72: In this massive bombardment of events which are no longer tied together by any strand of logic, whose interaction is ruled no longer by any necessity, the reader, without realizing it, of course, loses the notion of temporal progression. Superman happens to live in an imaginary universe in which, as opposed to ours, causal chains are not open (A provokes B, B provokes C, C provokes D, etc., ad infinitum) but closed (A provokes B, B provokes C, C provokes D, and D provokes A), and it no longer makes sense to talk about temporal progression on the basis of which we usually describe the happenings of the macrocosm.
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Jul 12, 2021 21:44
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Fil5000 posted:Oh man, I just looked up the origin story of the Batman who Laughs and it contains this: The DC has been about the Edge since as far back as I can remember, really.
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Jul 12, 2021 21:44
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Fil5000 posted:Oh man, I just looked up the origin story of the Batman who Laughs and it contains this: This kind of thing and whatever's happening at Marvel these days is why I stopped reading most American comic books.
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Jul 12, 2021 21:49
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Fil5000 posted:Oh man, I just looked up the origin story of the Batman who Laughs and it contains this: what if I told you Evil Batman dressed those feral Joker Babies as his new 'Robins' who basically acted like his attack dogs, does that help? Does that make it better???? But yea 'The Joker forced Batman to watch him shoot the parents of multiple children in Crime Alley just like his' is some grade A 'if you told me this was bad fanfic I'd think you're being over the top' poo poo. Batman Who Laughs and really all the Dark Multiverse stuff sucks so loving much, there's not a single redeemable feature about it other than Baby Darksied.
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Jul 12, 2021 21:59
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Is this the same timeline where joker cut his own face off?
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Jul 12, 2021 22:10
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Modern age DC has had many problems, but the biggest one might be dragging out a self-important Watchmen crossover and not once having Dr. Manhattan get punched in the dick
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Jul 12, 2021 22:14
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Fil5000 posted:Oh man, I just looked up the origin story of the Batman who Laughs and it contains this: no it was written by Snyder Scott Snyder. who'd you think I was talking about?
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Jul 12, 2021 22:22
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Famethrowa posted:I feel like I could care way more about comics if they didn't try to have continuity. all the formal multiverse explanations makes me feel sleepy In most of the good stories it either doesn't matter all that much or the writer will throw in enough context to give the gist of it.
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Jul 12, 2021 22:50
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Famethrowa posted:I feel like I could care way more about comics if they didn't try to have continuity. all the formal multiverse explanations makes me feel sleepy This is how I feel about series like Mega Man or Zelda trying to shoehorn all the disparate games into one uniform timeline.
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Jul 12, 2021 22:52
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Alaois posted:no it was written by Snyder 
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Jul 12, 2021 23:18
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