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HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Pobrecito posted:

yeah only a 10-15% tax for the next 20-30 years no big deal

You misunderstand me and maybe I came across as too glib. My point is that most of that money that would be ‘forgiven’ will never be paid in the first place. It’s ghost money on a balance sheet and instead we just exact a tax on college grads for their working career as I guess a penalty for trying to rise above their station?

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Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012



noah smith, permanent revolution trot?

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Probably Magic posted:

the new trend in politics, campaign dances even bugs can do

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0wFOINHXI0

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/BlackSocialists/status/1414757565582426117?s=20
https://twitter.com/BlackSocialists/status/1414736143552233474?s=20

CubanMissile
Apr 22, 2003

Of Hulks and Spider-Men

Mirthless posted:

Emotional Maturity, Emotional Intelligence and Emotional Labor seem to be phrases mostly used by people online to frame other people's feelings as immature or abusive (or to lionize stocisim) probably because they're lovely people who hurt everyone around them constantly

I’ve seen emotional maturity thrown around a lot by people who want their significant others to “grow up” and be chill about the fact they’re being cheated on because it’s controlling and abusive to not be ok with the other person loving whoever they want.

Fellatio del Toro
Mar 21, 2009


nina about to sweep the election with 100% of the lib vote

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Cubans are going to have to fight to preserve their socialist government, because libs and reactionaries the world over are making the CCP out to be KONY

Jabronie
Jun 4, 2011

In an investigation, details matter.

HashtagGirlboss posted:

You misunderstand me and maybe I came across as too glib. My point is that most of that money that would be ‘forgiven’ will never be paid in the first place. It’s ghost money on a balance sheet and instead we just exact a tax on college grads for their working career as I guess a penalty for trying to rise above their station?

I just remembered that 10k forgiveness was dropped from the corona relief bill earlier this year. It was just overshadowed by Sinema thumbs downing minimum wage increase.

i'm sure all those congresspeople who tweeted "abolish student debt, pass it on" are getting right on that legislation!

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013

Nonsense posted:

Cubans are going to have to fight to preserve their socialist government, because libs and reactionaries the world over are making the CCP out to be KONY

more like COP NY

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle
I think anyone who uses the word "tankie" unironically can be safely ignored.

is there any use of it other than to punch left?

Clip-On Fedora
Feb 20, 2011


Hmmm…

I think Noah might be stupid.

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013


thalweg
Aug 26, 2019

sexpig by night posted:

I'm honestly a little worried on this. Venezuela was mainly stopped by Trump's laziness and the fact that we've kinda plundered them enough that they're not really a big deal to us, but Cuba's been America's white whale for decades now and now there's bipartisan voices and even supposed 'left wing' ones beating the 'oh won't SOMEBODY do something???' drums

Yeah i see this side of the American state as the side that more or less has the same overarching aims no matter who's in charge, but if the changing of the guard from trump to biden brings some newfound competence then things look bad to me too. I hope that's not the case but this lining up with Moïse and the CIA director visiting Brazil has me all :tinfoil:

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

spacemang_spliff posted:

I think anyone who uses the word "tankie" unironically can be safely ignored.

is there any use of it other than to punch left?

the anarchists who use it think they're punching right

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
the anarchists who use it are police

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

sexpig by night posted:

Yea from what I understand the very conservative 10,000 - 7,000 ish number people use is still including poo poo like 'if we count literal guys who took up arms against Castro and got gunned down trying to bomb a government building', the number is almost certainly a tiny amount of genuine 'yea they just fuckin shot this rando farmer, that was hosed of them to do' by any measure of revolutions.

Pour one out for the over 200,000 Victims, murdered in the name of George Washington:

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
thinking about how every 'autonomous zone' last year fizzled because either the cops would magically find the entry ways unblocked one day or they'd just keep shooting rando black people until the neighborhood chased them out

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Atrocious Joe posted:

the anarchists who use it think they're punching right

They’re pretty annoying yes, it’s weird seeing them make pacts with woke libs

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle
gotta love the anarchists who are parroting the state department lines on Cuba, a state department which is unchanged in it's position on Cuba from when Trump was in office.

loving leftists just unironically echoing Pompeo's views on Cuba and yelling at "tankies" for thinking the US should stay the gently caress out of Cuban affairs

and then other leftists get mad when you make fun of the state of the left in the US lmao

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

Atrocious Joe posted:

the anarchists who use it think they're punching right

oh yeah I don't doubt that.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011


this just made me realize that making dc a state would rather absurdly mean that they either do not have a governor or that they have a governor whose responsibilities almost entirely overlap with those of the mayor

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011


Yeah... I've not been super impressed with this account lately...

https://twitter.com/BlackSocialists/status/1414733237935656961

Ennnnnnh....

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

These Cuba comments are horrible. These people are all gullible pieces of poo poo.

I could sort of see how people ended up with this kind of attitude with Venezuela, since there were at least significant issues there and the US/West's role in it was less obvious, but Cuba is a country that consistently does better than other developing nations despite the US embargo (which has extremely obvious and severe economic effects).

These people are just blindly assuming that "the people are protesting against authoritarianism!" based off of some pictures of crowds of like a few hundred people. Incurable stupidity.

PhilippAchtel posted:

Yeah... I've not been super impressed with this account lately...

https://twitter.com/BlackSocialists/status/1414733237935656961

Just disgusting. How do these people propose that a left-wing central/south-american fight back against non-stop US efforts to foment unrest? The only reason Cuba lasted as long as it did is that it took actions that drove away many of the people who would have constantly been attempting to overthrow the government (and with remarkable restraint, even; I'm confused about what horrible authoritarian actions they're even attributing to Cuba - my guess is that they just have no idea what they're talking about and assume that Cuba must have done a bunch of terrible things).

Ytlaya has issued a correction as of 04:09 on Jul 13, 2021

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

The guy is wearing a loving MAGA hat in the photo you're posting, you gullible turd! Stop equivocating!

WorkerThread
Feb 15, 2012

PhilippAchtel posted:

Yeah... I've not been super impressed with this account lately...

https://twitter.com/BlackSocialists/status/1414733237935656961

Ennnnnnh....

being taken in by cia propaganda, but wokely

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Some Guy TT posted:

this just made me realize that making dc a state would rather absurdly mean that they either do not have a governor or that they have a governor whose responsibilities almost entirely overlap with those of the mayor

Pretty sure the mayor becomes gov if it's a state

Zmej
Nov 6, 2005

spacemang_spliff posted:

loving leftists just unironically echoing Pompeo's views on Cuba and yelling at "tankies" for thinking the US should stay the gently caress out of Cuban affairs

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle
It's really interesting how a huge segment of the American left for some reason has big issues with every leftist or communist government on the planet

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

lmao tell me that's a joke post

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007


gently caress these pieces of poo poo

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013

spacemang_spliff posted:

It's really interesting how a huge segment of the American left for some reason has big issues with every leftist or communist government on the planet

:thunk:

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

CubanMissile posted:

I’ve seen emotional maturity thrown around a lot by people who want their significant others to “grow up” and be chill about the fact they’re being cheated on because it’s controlling and abusive to not be ok with the other person loving whoever they want.

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002


it's really mindblowing how badly the left has failed

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

PhilippAchtel posted:

Yeah... I've not been super impressed with this account lately...

https://twitter.com/BlackSocialists/status/1414733237935656961

Ennnnnnh....

Shame, remember I liked some of their stuff

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

spacemang_spliff posted:

It's really interesting how a huge segment of the American left for some reason has big issues with every leftist or communist government on the planet

the american left loves its martyrdom and tragic figures more than actual socialist success stories because attaining and wielding power is a betrayal somehow

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012


SDL = Socialist Defamation Likers?

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

the ussr china should give cuba nukes

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1414785066455158786

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Gobblecoque
Sep 6, 2011
lovely dumb liberals

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