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gh0stpinballa posted:been reading about heroin trafficking and the middle east. quote:A few years after the Taliban came to power they began a campaign to eradicate Afghanistan’s opium crops, and “The success of Afghanistan’s 2000 drug eradication program under the Taliban government was recognized by the United Nations” as a monumental feat, in that “no other country was able to implement a comparable program.”[12] In October of 2001, the UN acknowledged that the Taliban reduced opium production in Afghanistan from 3300 tons in 2000 to 185 tons in 2001.[13]
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let's spend 20 years in mountains full of valuable minerals covered in illegal drugs because...freedom?
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wasn't it well documented that US troops were being used to guard poppy fields in Afghanistan a few years ago? my only assumption is that they were guarding them for local warlords willing to work with us against the taliban?
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spice must flow
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I've dipped into this thread a few times but not really kept up with the narrative. But today I was off on a long hike down the coast looking for some listening material, and one of the things I'd bookmarked for listening to was the Ghost Stories For The End Of The World podcast, which I think is made by a goon. I listened to the first 3 episodes and, against the advice of the podcaster, looked up the more morbid details of the Marc Detroux affair and crack-loving-ping. I think I'm gonna spend some time reading this thread from the start and collating all the recommended source materials.
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Clyde Radcliffe posted:I've dipped into this thread a few times but not really kept up with the narrative. But today I was off on a long hike down the coast looking for some listening material, and one of the things I'd bookmarked for listening to was the Ghost Stories For The End Of The World podcast, which I think is made by a goon. there are a lot of great starting points! I’m a huge fan of Legacy of Ashes, an enormously thorough history of the CIA which was responsible for a lot of my initial cracking
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Zmej posted:wasn't it well documented that US troops were being used to guard poppy fields in Afghanistan a few years ago? my only assumption is that they were guarding them for local warlords willing to work with us against the taliban? yeah the us's counterinsurgency strategy and karzai's government was based a lot on bribing gangs and militias with the usual kind of stuff: guns, the disappearing pallets of $100 bills, drug money, etc Shear Modulus has issued a correction as of 01:11 on Jul 13, 2021 |
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Clyde Radcliffe posted:I've dipped into this thread a few times but not really kept up with the narrative. But today I was off on a long hike down the coast looking for some listening material, and one of the things I'd bookmarked for listening to was the Ghost Stories For The End Of The World podcast, which I think is made by a goon. that’s the gh0stpinballa touch
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nut posted:that’s the gh0stpinballa touch he's a goon? that's rad. good work podcast host I finished the Gladio ep recently and have loved all of em so far.
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# ? Jul 13, 2021 01:11 |
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gh0stpinballa posted:been reading about heroin trafficking and the middle east I'm about half way through Operation Gladio by Paul L. Williams so I have also been reading about heroin trafficking in the middle east lol
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u know its obvious but there's just something about hearing em say it https://twitter.com/cnni/status/1414722575071125506?s=20 e: CNN posted:"Following the assassination of President Moïse, the suspect reached out to his contacts at the DEA. A DEA official assigned to Haiti urged the suspect to surrender to local authorities and, along with a U.S. State Department official, provided information to the Haitian government that assisted in the surrender and arrest of the suspect and one other individual," the DEA said. nut has issued a correction as of 01:44 on Jul 13, 2021 |
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nut posted:u know its obvious but there's just something about hearing em say it yes they may currently work for US law enforcement but it is not untrue that they also worked for US law enforcement in the past
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nut posted:when i was in public elementary school the cops came and fingerprinted all of us for a database in case we got lost and at some point u realize no one is going to use ur fingerprints to help find u Yep, this happened to me without parental consent. Still pissed about it. I don't know if you can find out if they were just kept locally or digitized and put in the database. I could see lots of these remaining locally especially in small towns that wouldn't have had a scanner or resources to add them to the database in the 1980s.
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goddamn this Cuba poo poo is so stupidly transparent
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# ? Jul 13, 2021 02:51 |
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The transparent color rev is significantly less infuriating than it pushing Haiti out of the spotlight/news cycle. It's really standard now though, that sort of thing, and maybe I'm wrong but I think it wasn't so commonly and easily done going back like a dozen years. It sucks!!
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Clyde Radcliffe posted:I've dipped into this thread a few times but not really kept up with the narrative. But today I was off on a long hike down the coast looking for some listening material, and one of the things I'd bookmarked for listening to was the Ghost Stories For The End Of The World podcast, which I think is made by a goon. There was a reading list posted just a page or so ago. Off the top of my head, NATO's Secret Armies, The Politics of Heroin in SE Asia, and of course CHAOS are excellent reads that beyond their specific subjects illustrate the deep politics driving this whole shitshow
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Zmej posted:wasn't it well documented that US troops were being used to guard poppy fields in Afghanistan a few years ago? my only assumption is that they were guarding them for local warlords willing to work with us against the taliban? A lot of these warlords were also chomos which is one place where the taliban has popular support in their religious fanaticism against. Dumbass GIs would talk about how "afghani culture" included child rape when it was just these degenerate collaborator criminals we were propping up.
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Jetto Jagga posted:A lot of these warlords were also chomos which is one place where the taliban has popular support in their religious fanaticism against. Dumbass GIs would talk about how "afghani culture" included child rape when it was just these degenerate collaborator criminals we were propping up. Uh, yeah, those are the only ones the U.S. wants to prop up. Easily controlled now, easily discarded and vilified later!
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I am reviewing the thread because I wanted to get a peculiar ~~historical account~~ to help me write some stuff and this, for some reason, triggered the gently caress out of me as something preternaturally evil, holy poo poo this is world of darkness style A+ uncut cultish obscurantism lmao
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# ? Jul 13, 2021 04:03 |
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No less terrifying than the rest of the image, but still funny thanks to SA memery. Humor is the only force that can give us a chance against the Old Ones.
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Tubgoat posted:Uh, yeah, those are the only ones the U.S. wants to prop up. Easily controlled now, easily discarded and vilified later! Same MO for all the other scumbags like Noriega and Saddam etc et al
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And the British empire back in the day, pick a minority group or class and raise em up, and let em know they're hosed without you because of what you've done to the rest of the population
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Jetto Jagga posted:Same MO for all the other scumbags like Noriega and Saddam etc et al "Look, we have to take them out, they keep loving the kids we send for the express purposes of loving! Our hands are clean, though."
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Tubgoat posted:"Look, I don't like it either, but we have to work with these scumbags and give them absolutely whatever they want or the communists win!" A very early crack ping for me was Iraq war poo poo about how Saddam was evil for gassing the Kurds... which he did in the 80s, when we supported him, and learning that at the time we tried to blame Iran for it
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Jetto Jagga posted:A very early crack ping for me was Iraq war poo poo about how Saddam was evil for gassing the Kurds... which he did in the 80s, when we supported him, and learning that at the time we tried to blame Iran for it gas me twice... won't get gassed again
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# ? Jul 13, 2021 04:48 |
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meanwhile US forces bathed Iraq in white phosphorous lmao
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smarxist posted:meanwhile US forces bathed Iraq in white phosphorous lmao Oh poo poo another good book for thread is The Fire This Time by Ramsey Clark which is about US War crimes in Gulf War I. poo poo about how we bomb dams and water systems and plan for X,000 deaths for cholera or whatever
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Jetto Jagga posted:And the British empire back in the day, pick a minority group or class and raise em up, and let em know they're hosed without you because of what you've done to the rest of the population The Hmong and the Montagnards in Vietnam
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haha that'd make a great avatar for someone.
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I tend to take a materialist standpoint on the depravity of our elites. Most of them are just rich jag-offs who are bored and lack empathy, and their entire lives are predicated on abusing those below them by nature of the system. Rich pieces of poo poo are rich because they take advantage of normal people, so why would sex be any different? It shouldn’t be surprising that men like Epstein take it a bit further. No need for satanic cults or adrenochrome. But seriously WHAT THE gently caress IS THAT? LOOK AT THOSE EYES ON THAT HOUSE, HOLY poo poo! GWBBQ posted:I lost journal/paper/archival access last week*, anyone got the link for the article about the Tsarnaev relative who just overtly lived in a CIA owned property? Not that article specifically,but I did a big write-up on pages 748-749 about a book on the Boston bombing and the Tsarnaevs.
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dead gay comedy forums posted:I am reviewing the thread because I wanted to get a peculiar ~~historical account~~ to help me write some stuff and this, for some reason, triggered the gently caress out of me as something preternaturally evil, holy poo poo
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# ? Jul 13, 2021 09:47 |
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Robert Vesco, who in 1974 gave an interview to Walter Cronkite alleging that he knew of a plot to use a deliberately bungled burglary attempt to be used to depose President Nixon weeks before the actual Watergate break-in, was an intelligence asset, controlled through senior CIA agent Lucien Conein, who was Daniel Ellsberg's mentor when he was still working for the government in Vietnam.
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Tubgoat posted:Humor is the only force that can give us a chance against the Old Ones. everything is real and true and hilarious. gradenko_2000 posted:Robert Vesco, who in 1974 gave an interview to Walter Cronkite alleging that he knew of a plot to use a deliberately bungled burglary attempt to be used to depose President Nixon weeks before the actual Watergate break-in, was an intelligence asset, controlled through senior CIA agent Lucien Conein, who was Daniel Ellsberg's mentor when he was still working for the government in Vietnam. lol
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Jetto Jagga posted:Oh poo poo another good book for thread is The Fire This Time by Ramsey Clark which is about US War crimes in Gulf War I. poo poo about how we bomb dams and water systems and plan for X,000 deaths for cholera or whatever there's also a good piece about other Gulf War war crimes committed by Americans in the Timothy McVeigh book, since he was on the frontlines helping commit them
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Jetto Jagga posted:And the British empire back in the day, pick a minority group or class and raise em up, and let em know they're hosed without you because of what you've done to the rest of the population Lobster, issue 1, pp. 3-5 posted:[Colin] Wallace came originally from County Antrim and was working as a PR man for the Royal Ulster Rangers when the British Army moved into Northern Ireland in 1969. He was the author of a briefing document issued to British officers on arrival. He moved into the Army's headquarters at Lisburn and was promoted to Senior Press Officer, where he worked closely with the Psychological Operations Department (Psyops) then headed by Major Richard Stannard. (5) It is claimed that Wallace effectively ran the operation until 1975. … Black propaganda and covert action began once it became clear that internment had failed. 1971 saw Oliver Wright replaced by Howard Smith (later head of MI5) as intelligence co-ordinator, and the establishment of a Psyops Unit at the Lisburn Headquarters. The then head of the Information Policy Unit told reporters "there is nothing sinister in this."(7) A confidential document "Training in Psychological Operations" states that "strategic psywar pursues long-term and mainly political objectives. It is designed to undermine the will of the enemy or hostile groups to fight. … It can be directed against the dominant political party in the enemy country, the government or particular elements of it. It is planned and controlled at the highest political authority."(8) … At the Lisburn headquarters there was close liaison between the Psyops Units, Army Intelligence and the Security Services. One of their chief sources of information came from homosexuals who were used to gather intelligence on extreme Protestant groups.(9) The Army didn't trust the RUC Special Branch.(10) Homosexuality was still a crime in Northern Ireland and provided excellent opportunities for compromise and blackmail. One of the Protestant politicians used in this manner was William McGrath. The 65 year old McGrath became a Kincora housewarden in 1971. Since the 40's he had been well known both as a homosexual and a religious extremist. It is likely that Wallace was one of those who knew: it is understood that as early as 1973 Wallace had quietly briefed journalists about McGrath's activities. … By the spring of 1971 the authorities had become desperate to penetrate the terrorist networks. Under the influence of counter-insurgency expert, Frank Kitson, the Army organised other intelligence operations along the lines used by Kitson against the Mau-Mau in Kenya. The Military Reconnaissance Force (MRF) was created for this task. SAS trained, and including SAS personnel, the MRF numbered about 40 and specialised in covert action. They set up Loyalist and Republican 'pseudo-gangs' to infiltrate and subvert their enemies' operations. (12) The pseudo-gangs set up in 1972 "contributed towards the stimulation of real psychosis of a 'war of religion'. It was the year of the sectarian murder. Appalling, motiveless murders. At nightfall Catholics were murdered apparently without reason: in some cases corpses were dumped in Protestant ghettos. It seemed that these were ritual killings, at times accompanied by mutilations; they terrorised the nationalist population."(13) The pseudo-gangs were directed from the outside by the Army Intelligence. They retained a high degree of independence but were always open to manipulation and infiltration. They owed much of their training, supply of intelligence and materials to the British Army, routed through the RUC and the Ulster Defence Regiment. (14) Among the pseudo-gangs were the 'Red Hand Commando' and the 'Ulster Freedom Fighters'. The self-confessed head of the shadowy para-military group, Tara, another pseudo-gang, was none other than the 'Beast of Kincora' - William McGrath. During the sixties McGrath held Sunday night meetings at his house in the University area, attended by up-and-coming Unionists. He forecast a holocaust in Ulster and portrayed liberal Unionists as IRA dupes. In 1969 he founded an Orange Lodge: in line with his claim that Protestants originally inhabited Ireland, its motto was in Gaelic. Several of the young Unionists from those meetings appear to have graduated to the paramilitary Tara. (15) Other gangs appeared on the scene. It is known, for example, that British Intelligence was responsible for the Ulster Freedom Fighters in the summer of 1973. "Initially it consisted of a small number of ex-convicts brought together and controlled by British Intelligence. These in turn recruited and controlled others who believed they were members of a genuine loyalist secret organisation." (16) The gangs were designed to spread disinformation, dissension within the Loyalist ranks, and foment infighting. In the wake of the successful Ulster Worker Council's strike in May, 1974, the British Government, under Prime Minister Wilson, tried to renew contacts with the Republican movement. It felt that it was still possible to extract concessions from the IRA for a possible peace settlement. The British State had learned one lesson from the failure of the 1972 Whitelaw meeting with the IRA: (17) the hardliners had to be separated off from the middle ground - and, more importantly, that included Protestants and Republicans.
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/12/americas/haiti-assassination-plot-us-law-informants/index.htmlquote:At least one of the men arrested in connection to the assassination by Haitian authorities previously worked as an informant for the US Drug Enforcement Administration, the DEA said in a statement in response to CNN. "President Haiti was coming right at us"
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Nice recommendations all but you've goofed it. They came in here crack-pinging and looking for more crack-pings and you've failed to recommend the crackest-pinger of them all: Programmed to Kill. Honestly a fantastic place to start for any newcomers to the thread as just about everything is touched on there so it serves as a decent jumping off point. Unless you're very keen on CIA stuff specifically in which case go elsewhere. As always I provide this recommendation with the caveat that the book is to be read critically, not accepted at face value or wholesale per se, and you don't need to follow McGowan down every mental road he constructs for himself (e.g., the proximity of Walpurgisnacht to some or another event is very probably coincidence and very probably not of any use to anyone).
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