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Dr. Quarex posted:
Win 8: I think you just hit windows twice. Once you get to the Home Tiles, the other gets you to the "everything installed" screen.
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Vista was a great OS that had its reputation destroyed by cheap rear end OEMs that sold computers with only 256or 512MB of RAM, which slowed the machine down to the point that people assumed that Vista was trash. It was so bad that Microsoft had to do that ad campaign where they revealed a "new" version of Windows that ran great and people loved it and at the end, Microsoft would say "this is Vista, it's just on a computer where HP didn't rip you off." With the right amount of RAM, it was a kickass OS and the few people who desperately clung to XP64 were baffling to me.
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Jul 12, 2021 05:23
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https://youtu.be/FvEJaDZCGz0
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Jul 12, 2021 05:35
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Windows 7 was the last OS with optimistic aesthetics. No I will not elaborate
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Cojawfee posted:Vista was a great OS that had its reputation destroyed by cheap rear end OEMs that sold computers with only 256or 512MB of RAM, which slowed the machine down to the point that people assumed that Vista was trash. To be fair, that was a problem of Microsoft’s own making - they were initially insisting on requiring more capable machines to qualify for a “Vista Capable” recommendation, but then Intel threw a poo poo-fit that it wouldn’t support some garbage chipset they wanted to offload, and MS caved (ironically pissing off HP, of all companies, in the process, as they had already committed to making more capable machines). Ars Technica has a write up about it. To make matters worse, all “Vista Capable” then meant was that it could feasibly run Vista Home Basic - meaning people could end up buying brand new computers that couldn’t do all the whiz-bang bullshit MS was using to pitch the OS. But regardless, I agree with you - Vista was just fine if it was on a computer meant to be running it. And if it wasn’t for Vista basically taking the bullet, Windows 7 would never have been as successful as it was.
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Jul 12, 2021 06:13
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If your OS can't even acceptably run a simple desktop environment on typical hardware of the day, then maaaaybe you've miscalculated somewhere. Vista was a bloated hunk of poo poo.
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Jul 12, 2021 06:40
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flavor.flv posted:You may be interested in the GPD Pocket line Yeah I've been eying those for a while. A friend has one and I messed with it for a minute, really really like the setup and it feels solid.
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Jul 12, 2021 06:57
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CaptainSarcastic posted:For some reason this made me picture someone who had incredibly unfortunate timing and their sole experiences with Windows have been ME, then Vista, then Windows 8.0. 95C, then pirated 98 > 98SE > 2000 > XP > 7, then bought a PC with a legit Win10 Pro retail license I've carried over two more builds. Powered Descent posted:typical hardware of the day It ran just fine on mid-tier retail computers of the day. It was the garbage minimum-spec $200 computers your parents bought at Walmart that gave Vista it's bad rep. Windows 7 is literally Windows Vista SE.
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Cojawfee posted:Vista was a great OS that had its reputation destroyed by cheap rear end OEMs that sold computers with only 256or 512MB of RAM, which slowed the machine down to the point that people assumed that Vista was trash. It was so bad that Microsoft had to do that ad campaign where they revealed a "new" version of Windows that ran great and people loved it and at the end, Microsoft would say "this is Vista, it's just on a computer where HP didn't rip you off." With the right amount of RAM, it was a kickass OS and the few people who desperately clung to XP64 were baffling to me. I was doing computer service at the time, so saw a lot of OEM machines with Vista that ran like rear end. And it was missing a surprising amount of drivers. As I recall, at least in 2008 or 2009 it was literally impossible to get a dial-up modem working on Vista. Complaining about people "clinging" to XP 64 seems weird as I have very rarely met anyone who saw that operating system in the wild, much less ran it themselves. It was my daily driver for a few years until I built a new machine in 2011 or so and installed Windows 7.
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Jul 12, 2021 08:21
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I was working in a computer store at the time, so I guess I was more likely to run into it. But there were a few people who refused to upgrade to Vista, but they wanted 64bit so they'd ask for XP64 despite us saying that there weren't really drivers for it and it was a crapshoot.
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I mean, I guess it counts as something of a tech relic now, and it's anecdotal as gently caress, but my XP 64 machine really didn't have what I would consider big driver problems. I think I had a wireless adapter or something that I had to bodge in a 64-bit Vista driver for, but in the years I ran it I think there were maybe 2 devices I had to manually gently caress around with drivers for, which in my experience isn't too bad. All the major hardware worked just fine. I was running an Athlon x4 4800+ and 4GB of DDR on a retail motherboard, so that probably helped in terms of having enough power and running mainstream components.
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Jul 12, 2021 09:27
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I had no idea that XP64 was ever sold at retail. I've only ever seen it used by large businesses and pirates. It worked perfectly for me and I used it up until I built a new PC and decided I might as well try 7.
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Jul 12, 2021 09:34
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Dip Viscous posted:I had no idea that XP64 was ever sold at retail. I've only ever seen it used by large businesses and pirates. My license was given to me by coworker and it was a business license - I think it was only good for 3 installs or something. Not a volume license, but not individual, either. That's pretty much the only reason I was even aware of it, despite working computer service at the time. It never seemed to get promoted or widely adopted, even though it was easily the best version of XP I ran.
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Jul 12, 2021 09:47
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9 years ago I found this in a work carpark. I love seeing it again 
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Jul 12, 2021 11:02
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I'll second Windows 2000 being a Good Windows. I stayed on it for years after XP was released, and it just ... worked? Way more stable than 98SE when I got the drivers sorted. There was also the year or two I ran 2003 Server with all the desktop services and optimizations turned back on, but that was more about what licenses I could easily get as a CS student. There were one or two cases of software refusing to install on a server OS, but it accepted XP drivers, performed nigh-identically, and was the last gasp of the plain square Win95-style design. Perfectly fine as a desktop OS.
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Jul 12, 2021 12:11
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Casimir Radon posted:I did 3.1, 95, XP, 7, and 10. Our Pentium II was bought far enough along that Dell sent us the 98 upgrade but it didn’t work for some reason so we just kept using 95 into 2001. Honestly didn’t have many problems with 95. This, but I suffered through Me as well. XP & 7 were perfect. Never had a single problem with the OS, but under 7 I had some wonky Nvidia drivers that would crash once per year.
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Jul 12, 2021 12:35
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I switched to a Mac when Vista became a thing. Having gotten used to constant battles with drivers, hardware problems, bloatware and other Windows bullshit back in the day, it was a real marvel to have a computer that mostly just... got on with things as I wanted, I guess? I switched back to Windows 7 in 2014 when I needed a new laptop, and as a student couldn't justify the cost of a new Mac so I got a used Thinkpad X203 instead. It was a whole different Windows from the one I had gotten used to, suddenly everything was pretty problem-free and responsive, as if on a Mac, so I went on using that old thing until 2019. Windows 10 has continued on being a very good Windows, I think!
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Jul 12, 2021 13:52
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super nailgun posted:Yeah I've been eying those for a while. A friend has one and I messed with it for a minute, really really like the setup and it feels solid. The Micro feels like it's built like a tank. Also, to give you an idea of just how bonkers tiny it is... 
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Jul 13, 2021 01:24
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if only they knew what was to come... 
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Tim Rogers' style of game journalism is a tech relic into itself, I remember actively reading his blog back in the day as a kid
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Jul 13, 2021 07:21
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I could never decide if Action Button was extremely good or completely up its own rear end
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Jul 13, 2021 07:30
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Someone was throwing these out in hard rubbish near my house. I could not let this happen. Got them in time as the weather for at least the next 5 days will be rain.   I used to admin a database that ran off a couple of RS6000 servers
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Jul 13, 2021 09:49
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That poster looks alarmed.
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FilthyImp posted:Vista had the driver problem as mentioned above It also switched driver models for some hardware so many devices would no longer work with old 2k/XP drivers, and the manufacturers were all  about making compatible versions. Lookin' at you, Creative.
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Rev. Bleech_ posted:It also switched driver models for some hardware so many devices would no longer work with old 2k/XP drivers, and the manufacturers were all I remember running some custom community drivers for my Soundblaster Audigy whatever edition. I swear I still used them on Windows 7 because they were still dropping the ball.
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https://github.com/kxproject ? that driver is awesome, it's funny how much DSP power those E-MU chips in the sblive and audigy had with proper software driving them it's a shame the soundfont loading breaks on 64-bit platforms, it was really cool to load up midi banks that were several hundred MB r u ready to WALK has a new favorite as of 19:26 on Jul 13, 2021 |
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You Am I posted:Someone was throwing these out in hard rubbish near my house. I could not let this happen. Got them in time as the weather for at least the next 5 days will be rain. These are all great but I love those RISC ones, such a 90s aesthetic e. drat that's a thicc tower under the desk in that Whew! ad
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Code Jockey posted:e. drat that's a thicc tower under the desk in that Whew! ad 
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Does anyone sill make server hardware with a physical ignition key like old RS6000s and like Sun E450s and E10ks?
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If I ever needed to encapsulate IBM as an image, I think this would have to be it. Not hardware. Not software. An ostentatious boat.
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Jul 14, 2021 01:22
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Blue Moonlight posted:If I ever needed to encapsulate IBM as an image, I think this would have to be it. I worked for a company that got acquired by IBM while I worked there. The boat should be sinking.
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Jul 14, 2021 01:27
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CaptainSarcastic posted:I worked for a company that got acquired by IBM while I worked there. The boat should be sinking. I worked for IBM. Under the surface there are 300,000 people rowing/drowning.
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I no longer wonder where my university got the random weird name for our e-mail server (it does not explain why they later alternated between RS6000 and Odin though) (I bet it somehow does)
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Jul 14, 2021 07:22
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If you love reading about IBMs follys:
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Interesting. I have read a book about both Watsons who ran the business till the early 70s, a very dry book, and read Louis V. Gerstner Jr's book "Who says Elephants can't dance" about how he transformed IBM in the late 90s, but didn't know that book
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I've never really dealt with IBM, but the impression I'm getting these days is that they're effectively trying to become a subsidiary of some mediocre indian outsourcing company?
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You Am I posted:Interesting. I have read a book about both Watsons who ran the business till the early 70s, a very dry book, and read Louis V. Gerstner Jr's book "Who says Elephants can't dance" about how he transformed IBM in the late 90s, but didn't know that book It's well worth a read mate. If you can't find it affordably let me know. I still have my copy I can lend.
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Remember Clippy? He's back, in emoji form! https://twitter.com/Microsoft/status/1415370520888061955
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