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Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
I really dislike that GM seems to have the monopoly on Mechanicus related novels

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Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

Mechanicum was so good, but in sort of a weird "death of the author" kind of way. It (parts at least), and the opening parts of Betrayer (I think), with the magos in charge of all of Calth's noosphere, are the best Mechanicus portayals in my opinion.

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug

FPyat posted:

How is Graham McNeill, overall? People mention him a lot less than they used to when talking about their favorite authors. I personally wasn't too taken with False Gods and Fulgrim.

He's simply okay overall. But, he wrote Warriors of Ultramar which is probably the best 'Nid porn you'll get to read. Loved that book. People also really liked Dead Sky, Black Sun but I thought it was kinda cheese.

IshmaelZarkov
Jun 20, 2013

GM was great, back when there were a handful of authors and if it wasn't Abnett who cared. But he hasn't gotten better, and better authors have come onto the scene.

GM will never give us a Vaults of Terra, Night Lords series, or Penitent, but on the upside he's no CS Goto. His books get a solid '....fine I guess'/10 each time.

Angry Lobster
May 16, 2011

Served with honor
and some clarified butter.

Philthy posted:

People also really liked Dead Sky, Black Sun

What :aaaaa:

Laughing Zealot
Oct 10, 2012


Didn't GM stop writing for Black Library a while back (aside from one Siege of Terra short)?

VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011
SWAP.AVI EXCHANGER
GM wrote the Gods of Mars Series so he's got an eternal pass in my book.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

IshmaelZarkov posted:

GM was great, back when there were a handful of authors and if it wasn't Abnett who cared. But he hasn't gotten better, and better authors have come onto the scene.

GM will never give us a Vaults of Terra, Night Lords series, or Penitent, but on the upside he's no CS Goto. His books get a solid '....fine I guess'/10 each time.

Oh god yeah, he could be so much worse

Really makes me wonder how BL hires authors sometimes

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

I mean they have done casting calls but I have no idea if they've ever amounted to anything in the end, otherwise it feels like it's a case of "I know a person who might be interested" like it's seemingly always been.

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

:stare: the games workshop casting couch :stare:

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug

I may have confused this with Storm of Iron.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Biplane posted:

:stare: the games workshop casting couch :stare:

the finecasting couch

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

Cooked Auto posted:

I mean they have done casting calls but I have no idea if they've ever amounted to anything in the end, otherwise it feels like it's a case of "I know a person who might be interested" like it's seemingly always been.

Before the new management the open submissions almost never resulted in anybody getting to write for BL. Since the change quite a few authors have gotten to start writing for BL through the open submissions process. What seems to happen is if you get picked you get a chance to write some short stories for BL and then if you are doing well with those they will give you a novel shot. If you are an established author they recruited then you can often times go straight to a novel. I still haven't gotten a reply to my open submission from last year and it's almost been a year. They answer everyone at least with a form rejection letter so I'm hoping it's a good sign? I had a killer idea but I didn't put as much effort into it as I should have so who knows.

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


Improbable Lobster posted:

the finecasting couch

:drat:

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug

D-Pad posted:

Before the new management the open submissions almost never resulted in anybody getting to write for BL. Since the change quite a few authors have gotten to start writing for BL through the open submissions process. What seems to happen is if you get picked you get a chance to write some short stories for BL and then if you are doing well with those they will give you a novel shot. If you are an established author they recruited then you can often times go straight to a novel. I still haven't gotten a reply to my open submission from last year and it's almost been a year. They answer everyone at least with a form rejection letter so I'm hoping it's a good sign? I had a killer idea but I didn't put as much effort into it as I should have so who knows.

I'm trying to imagine having to read through 1000+ chainsword decapitation scenes.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Improbable Lobster posted:

the finecasting couch

Thread title right here

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Does Urdesh take place during the 10 year gap between Salvation's Reach and Warmaster? It always seemed weird to me that the Ghosts managed to get lost in the Warp for a decade and yet when they arrived at Urdesh the war had been at a stalemate for as long as they were missing.

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

It's pretty clear it's leading up to the fight mentioned in Anarch where the Saint confronts the Anarch and Milo and Holofurnace are captured, so at the end of that period.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Holofurnace remains one of the best stupid awesome names I've ever read.

Angry Lobster
May 16, 2011

Served with honor
and some clarified butter.

Philthy posted:

I may have confused this with Storm of Iron.

Makes sense, Storm of Iron was above average bolter porn.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006
So, new Dawn of Fire novel announced - The Wolftime. Bad news is they've given it to Gav Thorpe. The premise though, does sound interesting.

With Gate of Bones being completely average, and now with Gav somehow given Space Wolves - if this isnt good i'll take it off my immediate purchase list.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface
It sounds like a bunch of the conflict to be set up in the book is RG being pissed they didn't follow his orders to the letter when really I'm not sure he would give a poo poo given the mess things are and the general good they have done in the face of entrenched power structures.

PantsOptional
Dec 27, 2012

All I wanna do is make you bounce

ed balls balls man posted:

So, new Dawn of Fire novel announced - The Wolftime. Bad news is they've given it to Gav Thorpe. The premise though, does sound interesting.

With Gate of Bones being completely average, and now with Gav somehow given Space Wolves - if this isnt good i'll take it off my immediate purchase list.

I'm extremely looking forward to chuds melting down over the cover.

von Metternich
May 7, 2007
Why the hell not?
“So far, we’ve had two fantastic novels in Black Library’s Dawn of Fire series.”

[Citation Needed]

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016

von Metternich posted:

“So far, we’ve had two fantastic novels in Black Library’s Dawn of Fire series.”

[Citation Needed]

The Guilliman and Adeptus Terra stuff was good but thats only about 65% of the book, the rest is really boilerplate 40k novel stuff that, while basically fine, isnt exactly inspiring.

von Metternich
May 7, 2007
Why the hell not?

AnEdgelord posted:

The Guilliman and Adeptus Terra stuff was good but thats only about 65% of the book, the rest is really boilerplate 40k novel stuff that, while basically fine, isnt exactly inspiring.

I quite liked the first book but the second was not very good at all imo.

Chemtrailologist
Jul 8, 2007

ed balls balls man posted:

So, new Dawn of Fire novel announced - The Wolftime. Bad news is they've given it to Gav Thorpe. The premise though, does sound interesting.

With Gate of Bones being completely average, and now with Gav somehow given Space Wolves - if this isnt good i'll take it off my immediate purchase list.

I kind of liked half of The First Wall. It did give us Dorn backhanding Kharn across the room like a ragdoll.

He did a much better job with the Iron Warriors than Mcneill.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
If the Space Wolves novels is gonna be called Wolftime I hope there's also an Irontime, Raventime, Darktime, etc

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
I finally read Blood Pact, so I can say I've read every one of the GG books put out so far, minus the Vincula Conspiracy which I will get later this year.

Abnett continues to improve with his endings, but what really made this book stand out to me was how well he managed to maintain a fast place and a web of ongoing plotlines with a significant amount of downtime. Balhaut had such an incredibly well defined sense of place to it which was helped along greatly by Gaunt's conversations with Jaume and Kolding. It was so refreshing to see a world on the back lines and get these vivid flashes of civilian life in the Sabbat Worlds rather than going into extensive detail.

It was also really neat going from a frontline hellwar of the stories in The Lost to this tight assassin thriller tale. It definitely helped that Mkoll and Larkin only played supporting roles because it let the fuckups in the regiment get their time to shine. Ludd and Hark had a good banter and everything with Rawne and his misfits on their heist-turned-siege-turned-rescue effort was very entertaining and added some much needed levity to the tense main plot and the very sad existence of a wounded planet like Balhaut.

I also love the way the Blood Pact themselves operated. They've got their khorne worshipping fanatics but they have such a unique sense of duty and familial bonds due to their Pact that they almost became anti-heros, in a twisted way. Abnett doesn't get enough credit for just how well he writes Archenemy forces because he really sat down and thought about how a chaos worshipping society that had existed for centuries would look like from the eyes of someone born into it rather than converted. Obviously we only really see them in a military capacity throughout the books but it is clear that they have customs and social norms and a functional, if brutal, society backing them up rather than just a bunch of cultists and fanatics on a rampage.

Great book, would highly recommend.

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

Improbable Lobster posted:

If the Space Wolves novels is gonna be called Wolftime I hope there's also an Irontime, Raventime, Darktime, etc

I mean the Wolftime is literally when Russ is supposed to return so maybe they'll actually do it because it would be awesome. How much was known about girlyman coming back before hand? Were they upfront about it or was it a complete surprise or just a few hints or what?

ShutteredIn
Mar 24, 2005

El Campeon Mundial del Acordeon
It was pretty much out of nowhere with the Gathering Storm book drop. There was I think a white dwarf leaked image showing RG a few days before.

MrNemo
Aug 26, 2010

"I just love beeting off"

There was a lot of rumor mongering beforehand that GW were bringing back a primarch but it definitely wasn't known whom. I think it's unlikely we get such a big drop in a new novel without a crap load of tabletop stuff as well that I'm not sure there's been any indication of.

jng2058
Jul 17, 2010

We have the tools, we have the talent!





Well if they keep the same paradigm of two traitor Primarchs for one loyal one, then I'd expect to see another loyalist around the time that Fulgrim and Angron hit the table. Russ makes a lot of sense as the guy who's been prophesied to return, albeit by himself, and actually he'd be one of the least likely to cooperate with Guilliman, adding some extra drama to the whole affair so I could see it. The other one would be Lion El'Johnson since he's in stasis in The Rock (though hidden) so it'd be pretty easy to bring him back online.

That said, I still like the idea of Fulgrim getting redeemed and Johnson replacing him as the Slaanesh Primarch, but I acknowledge that's a long shot.

a shitty king
Mar 26, 2010
Whoever said the new Sabbat War anthology was extremely strong wasn't kidding. I didn't think there were really any weak stories here. Loved the three about the Sekkites, and the story about the plane.

Even McNeil turned in a solid story, after the discussion on him recently.

The Sabbat Crusade is a great setting and it's like the opposite of the mainstream BL fiction where you do still get product tie ins. Sabbat stuff seems to bring out more outside the box thinking and original ideas than the rest.


I'll take that back if we start to see models for Wirewolves or Blood Pact.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
I think the constraints of the more focused setting really help bring out the best in the authors. I need to see if I can find the book sometime.

Doloen
Dec 18, 2004

Improbable Lobster posted:

If the Space Wolves novels is gonna be called Wolftime I hope there's also an Irontime, Raventime, Darktime, etc

Looking forward to the Ultratime myself.

Has there been any word about a third Watchers of the Throne book? I enjoyed the first two more than I normally do for Space marine related stuff.

Nuclear War
Nov 7, 2012

You're a pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty girl
Fisttime is a sexy but specialised kinda book

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

     sup

Nuclear War posted:

Fisttime is a sexy but specialised kinda book

plot twist: its actually about the emperor's children

Azubah
Jun 5, 2007

Wouldn't that be a sequel or spinoff to the buttplug primarch book?

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thocan
Jan 18, 2014

jng2058 posted:

That said, I still like the idea of Fulgrim getting redeemed and Johnson replacing him as the Slaanesh Primarch, but I acknowledge that's a long shot.

Is there anything behind this idea, text wise? Would be kinda cool, but I'm woefully out of touch with a lot of the later HH books and newer main story stuff.

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