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mind the walrus posted:Let's try another way, without the marketing bylines that make you sound like a tool. Thats for sure all Loki realized throughout the entire show and totally isnt an extremely reductionary summary perfectly tuned to fit your bias and completely ignoring the reality of what objectively transpired on screen.
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Lunatic Sledge posted:to be even clearer, I love Loki and convenience store hotdogs but not cilantro I'm so sorry you don't have the cilantro gene.  Anyways I've been team Loki since Thor 1 and a fan of bad Doctor Who episodes, so lmao, this show is my thing. Klungar posted:They did it to aggravate the people who made a fuss about this line, which made me laugh. I hope it worked because holy poo poo, I remember twitter being full with YA writers being angry they didn't think of a line like that before lol Edit: btw I finished Godzilla Singular Point, and lmao, I dunno if it was a bad subbing but the time traveling/multi-verse is 10000x more confusing in it than in Loki or Tomorrow War, or even Doctor Who. but the cliffhanger of Mechagodzilla was rad. Desperado Bones fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Jul 15, 2021 |
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Jul 15, 2021 03:43
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DaveKap posted:Gonna post this again It’s just two back holes eating each other. I don’t think it means anything. Black holes are cool. Do weird things with light, gravity. That’s it.
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DaveKap posted:Gonna post this again The other Kang's look like they teleported with TVA sliding doors, so I'm guessing the Nexus Events just create a path to an alternate and make it accessible? mind the walrus posted:Let's try another way  Or <blah blah>, Loki comes to terms with his narcissism by encountering a version of himself that was poo poo on for no particular reason, realizing that his self-sabotaging tendencies blah blah. Hey, it's neat that Immortus ruling at the end of time serves as a thematic foil for Loki's own initial ambitions FilthyImp fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Jul 15, 2021 |
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Watched the finale. Got trolled.
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I liked the the holy time line ended up as a circle . A solipsistic circle . Iirc this was the imagery at the beginning around the castle and also prominently behind the last person That feeds into the black hole imagery posted above where the accretion disk is a visual metaphor for the holy timeline line and the black hole is the guy at the end
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Lunatic Sledge posted:they explained it Yeah? It's like the end of the matrix reloaded except the architect is slightly more entertaining. It's still just some guy sitting there monologuing explaining the plot as the climactic finale.
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Jul 15, 2021 04:08
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I mean these are comic book tv shows
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Jul 15, 2021 04:09
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So why does he teleport all the pruned people and timelines into a big monster that may or may not eat them. Why not simply teleport them all into a black hole or something
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Ishamael posted:What an underwhelming finale. Having a completely new character monologue for 20 minutes and then die, with vague consequences, was not a good ending to this show. The consequences were extremely clear? Loki literally looks at a new statue, because Sylvie's decision immediately changed everything - for the worse.
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Terror Sweat posted:Yeah? It's like the end of the matrix reloaded except the architect is slightly more entertaining. It's still just some guy sitting there monologuing explaining the plot as the climactic finale. I found it less entertaining because my memory of Will Ferrell as the architect is so firmly ingrained that I forgot that was the parody version.
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Presumably the other end of time guys could get out of black holes
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This was a fun season of the show Loki and I enjoyed it thanks for listening.
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HootTheOwl posted:Watched the finale. Got trolled. From now on, if a MCU show is going good I'm gonna just skip the finale and make up my own ending
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Disney is just old and white enough to still hate mixed race business in their films and as a result I am comfortable in assuming that Kang The Conqueror being Majors means that whoever they get to play Reed Richards will also be black and this pleases me.
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Kaddish posted:It’s just two back holes eating each other. I don’t think it means anything. Black holes are cool. Do weird things with light, gravity. That’s it. So... are these just two distinct timelines? If that's the case, does that mean there never was one stable timeline? If you get way down to it, at the start you hear all the MCU chatter as the Marvel Studios logo is shown, it changes to only real world chatter as we're sucked out of the left black hole, and then it mixes to MCU and real world chatter in the right black hole. Does that mean the left black hole is our reality and the right black hole is the MCU reality that incorporated some of our reality? And then you have the fact that Immortus describes the timelines with a visual of black holes layered on to of each other mixed into that. There are implications here!
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Yes that was two end of the world guys who had their own solipsistic universes going and are colliding now Or I mean not actually, metaphorically. Black holes collide in real life all time The scenes in the castle at the end of time were in a singularity (literally the end of time). You could see the accretion disk around them euphronius fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Jul 15, 2021 |
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Jul 15, 2021 04:36
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My jaw dropped when the elevator opened on Kang. I can't believe I'm excited for an Ant Man movie.
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Kaddish posted:It’s just two back holes eating each other. I don’t think it means anything. Black holes are cool. Do weird things with light, gravity. That’s it. It's the end of time. All that remains of the universe is two black holes, and the only physical space that a being can exist on is that little scrap of a planet with a castle on it, existing briefly on the edge of the exclusion zone. It was a really cool scene.
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Yeah and if you want to get into “wacky” susskind et al interpretations of the event horizon that may be what we are now anyway
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I assumed the point where Kang's knowledge of events ended was when his castle entered the event horizon (not because there was a big unknowable choice), because after that moment it wouldn't be possible to see further. That's literally the end of time: the last physical part of the universe just fell into a black hole to never be recovered.
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Loki left after that It’s just a visual metaphor I don’t think they actually were in a black hole. It’s a comic book show
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In terms of where Ravonna went... Maybe the info Ravonna Renslayer got at the end was how to find another He Who Remains (or a like-minded variant) who she could work with to fix everything - hence everyone being reset when Loki got back, and the statue? At first I thought it might be an evil variant, but He Who Remains in this episode didn't seem to want bad poo poo to happen. Or maybe the info didn't come from him maybe it's that Meddling Ms Minutes!
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euphronius posted:Loki left after that
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Fair enough The guy at the end could not escape that’s for sure It was HIS singularity
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Also Loki and Sylvie were “black holes” on a collision course
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I for one am glad that they finally gave us Mephisto like we were asking for
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Mike the TV posted:I assumed the point where Kang's knowledge of events ended was when his castle entered the event horizon (not because there was a big unknowable choice), because after that moment it wouldn't be possible to see further. That's literally the end of time: the last physical part of the universe just fell into a black hole to never be recovered. I like this interpretation, but just to wildly speculate it could've been Galactus.
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Cael posted:I don't care if the tone/content changed every episode. Came here to post basically this.
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Was I supposed to catch that that was Kang from the origin story or from the outfit?
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Bananaquiter posted:Was I supposed to catch that that was Kang from the origin story or from the outfit? Only if you know about him already. He said he'd been called "a conqueror" in the past as well. If you don't really know about this guy yet, then this wasn't really him. Just setting up some origin story for when he does eventually show up.
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Bananaquiter posted:Was I supposed to catch that that was Kang from the origin story or from the outfit? I dont think you're 'supposed to catch that that was Kang' at all. He said his name is 'he who remains'. For people who follow comic books he mentioned that he had been called a conqueror. For people who dont, like me, he explained everything he needed to about who he is and why he's there.
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I really loved episode 5 but the finale fell a little flat for me. It's hard to follow up "I'm going to charm the beast at the end of time and find god" with god just being some guy at a desk. The Citadel scenes would've been improved greatly if Owen Wilson was there. I liked Sylvie enough up that point, but it's cruel that her part at the end was to mostly say "You're lying! Another lie!" over and over before making a rash and bad decision.
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Man Marvel just cannot stick their landings. Not as egregious as Wandavision, but worse ending than FATWS
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Its Rinaldo posted:Man Marvel just cannot stick their landings. I still stick by my belief that it's not a matter of "can't", it's a matter of "won't". They don't WANT to leave you satisfied with a story that wrapped up its themes. It's like an old radio serial or a soap opera, every episode leaves you hungry for your next bite. I'd go as far as saying this is a key part of what's made the MCU such a success.
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XboxPants posted:I still stick by my belief that it's not a matter of "can't", it's a matter of "won't". They don't WANT to leave you satisfied with a story that wrapped up its themes. It's like an old radio serial or a soap opera, every episode leaves you hungry for your next bite. I'd go as far as saying this is a key part of what's made the MCU such a success. Yeah Lost was awhile ago but I seem to remember every finale being "Wow that creates EVEN MORE questions!" even back then.
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When that dude was eating an apple it just made me think of George Costanza eating an apple on the phone so he sounded more casual
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GokuGoesSSJ3 posted:Yeah Lost was awhile ago but I seem to remember every finale being "Wow that creates EVEN MORE questions!" even back then. Lost's big thing was for every question that was answered, three more questions popped up. It was maddening as a fan but it drew audiences until the weight of it all came crashing down. It was nice to get what resolution we got but holy poo poo by like Season 3 I could tell the writers were stringing fans along. I kept watching because the characters were just so drat fun to watch.
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XboxPants posted:I still stick by my belief that it's not a matter of "can't", it's a matter of "won't". They don't WANT to leave you satisfied with a story that wrapped up its themes. It's like an old radio serial or a soap opera, every episode leaves you hungry for your next bite. I'd go as far as saying this is a key part of what's made the MCU such a success. It's not the lack of wrap up that's the problem. It's that they suck and are a wet fizzle compared to what came before. Your climax to crazy reality altering witchy powers show is a flying around laser DBZ fight. Your climax to crazy time stream multiple versions of the same person show is a guy in a bathrobe, who is admittedly charming as hell, Architect monologue at the heroes and his big plan was... to have a pair of Lokis be in charge of All Time. Lokis?!? Who immediately fall into fighting as is their wont and instead of something characters who are god and goddess of trickery and sorcery do anything they just kinda wave some swords at each other. Palpatine's Throne Room it aint. I liked the show, the characters were all great. Majors ate the loving scenery like that apple. But as far as a cap off to a show it was a let down. Its Rinaldo fucked around with this message at 08:01 on Jul 15, 2021 |
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