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It is kind of cool that the universe let us see what would have happened had Jon Jones gotten the career trajectory he deserved, but it kind of sucks that it still involves him being rich, famous and popular beyond his wildest dreams and largely shielded from the consequences of his worst action
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Jul 14, 2021 21:56
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I respect Conor for losing fights in a fun way unlike Jones who has the temerity to lose fights in a way that lets judges write down that he won them
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henkman posted:Yeah I was gonna say khabib is also a lovely person but people love him for his borat schtick oh yeah, he also sucks rear end, let no endorsement of his person be intimated by my appreciation for him breaking conor's mind
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Jul 14, 2021 22:55
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CommonShore posted:It is but he made a gun sign with his fingers as he said it so it's covered by the second ammendment lol
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Jul 14, 2021 23:07
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Do you think Connor would have acted even more unhinged had he won
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Jul 14, 2021 23:12
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Probably just more boring poo poo about Khabib ducking him or whatever other delusion of the week he has going on in his social media that would get ignored until his next fight
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Jul 14, 2021 23:13
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"if i grew up in dagestan i would stand up to all the local war lords while also respecting women" - you guys
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CommonShore posted:It is but he made a gun sign with his fingers as he said it so it's covered by the second ammendment Gun signs with his right, balloon animals with his leg
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Jul 15, 2021 00:09
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Being born in Dagestan under the same circumstances as anyone there I wonder if any of us would have different views than his? Where you are from is gonna shape your world view. He's not out punching old men in bars and throwing dollies at buses, or threatening to kill anyone. The worst I've seen is he paid that homeless guy to do pushups years ago then apologized for it. Otherwise publicly anyway it's mostly been class. Destro fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Jul 15, 2021 |
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Jul 15, 2021 00:14
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awesomeolion posted:"if i grew up in dagestan i would stand up to all the local war lords while also respecting women" - you guys Serious question -- does Kadyrov have that kind of threaten your family influence in Dagestan? What's the general political cohesion with Chechnya?
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awesomeolion posted:"if i grew up in dagestan i would stand up to all the local war lords while also respecting women" - you guys Or he could be cool like Zabit?
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Hollandia posted:Gun signs with his right, balloon animals with his leg hot drat
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quote:“I was looking at ‘85ers, top-10 ranked guys, I wanted solid guys,” Rockhold explained. “Uriah Hall went the other way and chose a different guy. I know my management talked with Kevin Holland and he actually reached out to me. He’s the only guy that reached out to me personally and was like, ‘Who said I was ducking?’ And I was like, ‘I don’t know, the managers talked and it didn’t sound like it was the direction they wanted to go.’ He was like, ‘No, no, no, let me handle my business and I’ll step up and do my thing.’ That guy, respect to him, he’s the man. He’s the only guy, I’m assuming, that wanted something that’s interesting, so we’ll see if that comes later. Please let Kevin knock Rockhold out in hilarious fashion.
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awesomeolion posted:"if i grew up in dagestan i would stand up to all the local war lords while also respecting women" - you guys *borat voice* in dagestan is custom to offer bmw car to kill pornographic star wawaweewa
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Jul 15, 2021 06:49
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I get what you are saying but he is also a grown man who has made millions of dollars. He doesn't get to ride the hometown excuse when he endorses murdering Macron or whatever
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Jul 15, 2021 06:53
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nordichammer posted:I get what you are saying but he is also a grown man who has made millions of dollars. He doesn't get to ride the hometown excuse when he endorses murdering Macron or whatever This.
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kimbo305 posted:Serious question -- does Kadyrov have that kind of threaten your family influence in Dagestan? What's the general political cohesion with Chechnya? The threats aren't really political in nature, keep in mind that all these republics are just part of Russia, there's complete freedom to travel, Makhachkala is 3 hours away from Grozny...think of it like someone going from NYC to Baltimore. Southpaugh posted:Or he could be cool like Zabit? What makes you think he's any less or more cool than Khabib? I mean sure he's probably more fun to watch fight, and he's got silly hair and he looks like Lincoln, but I suspect a lot of his good impression is just that he keeps his mouth shut. It's possible that sending him to a kung fu boarding school or whatever did somewhat protect him from getting too deep in their traditions but somehow I doubt it. Though if there are interviews out there showing him express progressive opinions I'd love to see them, maybe I'm just uninformed. Marching Powder posted:*borat voice* in dagestan is custom to offer bmw car to kill pornographic star wawaweewa It's not, which is why he didn't do that, but some random troll on the internet using his picture did. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzqejJIAVvs
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Brut posted:The threats aren't really political in nature, keep in mind that all these republics are just part of Russia, there's complete freedom to travel, Makhachkala is 3 hours away from Grozny...think of it like someone going from NYC to Baltimore. My question was toward why Khabib might choose to hang out or avoid Kadyrov. If the three hours' proximity somehow obligates him to pay tribute in any sense.
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kimbo305 posted:My question was toward why Khabib might choose to hang out or avoid Kadyrov. If the three hours' proximity somehow obligates him to pay tribute in any sense. Yeah, my understanding is that Dagestan's leader keeps changing and is usually some random Putin-installed puppet, so Kadyrov kind of becomes de facto cultural leader in the region. It's possible that if Kadyrov asks Khabib to hang out, Khabib can just say no and nothing bad will happen, it's also possible that something really bad happens. Hell, I can totally see a situation where Kadyrov might not give a gently caress but public perception gets formed that Khabib pissed him off and got on his bad side, and some random rear end in a top hat could take things in to their own hands in an attempt to gain influence(money) for themselves. That's some literal Russian roulette though.
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kimbo305 posted:Serious question -- does Kadyrov have that kind of threaten your family influence in Dagestan? What's the general political cohesion with Chechnya? Kadyrov murdered a dissident in Germany (and tried to murder another). He was probably behind the murder of Russian opposition leader Boris Nemtsov, which took place in Russia and likely without Putin's approval. When Fedor expressed mild concern over his child fighting club, Kadyrov's goons showed up to threaten Fedor's daughter. The man's an absolute blood drenched psycho and I don't blame anyone in his vicinity for holding their tongue. Bloody Elbow had an interesting piece on the split which seems to have formed between Nurmagomedov and Kadyrov though: https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2021/5/18/22440668/khabib-nurmagomedov-ramzan-kadyrov-imam-shamil-chechnya-mma-politics-feature An interesting theory, is that Nurmagomedov's retirement is an excuse for him to gracefully remove himself from Kadyrov's orbit. I wouldn't know, but if he did want to do such a thing, then this would probably be the best way to go about it.
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Speaking of Dagestani fights, looks like Omari Akhmedov got cut.
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Brut posted:What makes you think he's any less or more cool than Khabib? I mean sure he's probably more fun to watch fight, and he's got silly hair and he looks like Lincoln, but I suspect a lot of his good impression is just that he keeps his mouth shut. It's possible that sending him to a kung fu boarding school or whatever did somewhat protect him from getting too deep in their traditions but somehow I doubt it. Watched some interviews with his mentor, and his school was one of the few alternatives to a school backed by wahhabi islam (saudi money ofc), so yes, by default, he is cooler. I would not expect him to have a pleasant opinion about gay people for example though.
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Brut posted:Speaking of Dagestani fights, looks like Omari Akhmedov got cut. Brad Tavarez's victories retain their traditional relevance.
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drat. I don't care about him as a fighter much, but to lose a fight between top-15 fighters should never result in a cut. Like, the UFC should informally have to tiers of fighters, poo poo maybe even explictly, the way that euro football leagues function, and non-contract expiration cuts should happen only from the lower tier. In a case like this, ok, so he went 1-2 against Chris Weidman, Tom Breese, and Brad Tavares. Throw him against, idk, Jun Yon Park, and if he loses that to go LWLL, fine, cut him. But the UFC needs those gatekeeper fighters who people vaguely recognize, especially in 185+. A guy who is 9-5-1 is a resource in limited supply, and who can serve to build a fighter much more effectively than a guy who is 2-3. Yet another problem with UFC matchmaking. Now that I think about it, he and Tavares should have never been matched up against each other anyway. When a dude passes 10 UFC fights with a ~.600 record he should be exclusively fighting opponents who are like 3-0 4-0 5-1 5-2. Like, why didn't Akhmedov fight Shahbazyan instead? That would be an excellent fight, right now from a talent development perspective, a prospect showcase perspective, and a rankings justification perspective. Remember when Jon Jones beat up Stefan Bonnar, Brandon Vera, and Vladmir Matyushenko? It made people notice because we were able to say "drat Jones beat up a guy who I kinda know he might be kinda good"
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Conor has posted a video where he’s riding down the sidewalk in a motorized wheelchair and claims he had a stress fracture in his leg going into the fight. I don’t have any comment other than it’s a good source of unintentional comedy and you should watch it.
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blue footed boobie posted:Conor has posted a video where he’s riding down the sidewalk in a motorized wheelchair and claims he had a stress fracture in his leg going into the fight. I don’t have any comment other than it’s a good source of unintentional comedy and you should watch it. I saw that Kavanagh claimed there were injuries going into this one, and now Conor is saying people at UFC and doctors knew pre-fight he had those injuries.
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thank you for posting about this video https://twitter.com/espnmma/status/1415698919460323331 very "guy on youtube with 11 total views" energy out of this one
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At least there seems to be a grain of truth there about him not being willing to have treatment unless he hit rock bottom, wait, if it sounds like I'm talking about his cocaine habit, it's because I am.
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Jul 15, 2021 17:31
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Fight didn't count due to my existing fragility
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So he and his camp are at fault, as they proceeded with the fight knowing the potential injury/risk. That makes the loss a non-fluke, as the result was a known possibility. If the UFC also knew, I wouldn't be surprised if they pressured him to fight anyway as delaying the "biggest PPV EVAR!" wasn't good for the investors/Dana's 5th pool.
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Jul 15, 2021 17:48
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I trained badly is a poor way to explain why your loss isn't real
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I don't wanna be a loving fighter, but if I were to go into a fight with a fractured leg, I don't think my gameplan would be to throw a bunch of kicks
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I also found this still which I feel contains a Conor joke, with the "Gorilla Chest" and "Irish Setter," but I can't locate it.
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I had stress fractures in my leg but didn't change my gameplan and continuously kicked with it including at the press conference.
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I hope his motorised chair has spinner rims and a gold plated joystick. Twat.
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"I didn't get owned" claims man who is currently stuck behind an octogenarian outside walmart.
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Holy poo poo this is way more candid than I ever expected, here's 20 minutes of Dana White stories. (kind of) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8reVSydTEU
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Josuke Higashikata posted:I hope his motorised chair has spinner rims and a gold plated joystick. Magneto wears his helmet not to remain undetected by Cerebro, but because Professor X won't stop psychically sending him death threats toward Scarlet Witch or making empty promises to donate to the Holocaust Memorial Fund
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