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monkeytennis posted:Do you know what the care industry is like in the UK? The 12 months I spent working around it were awful, no care for the workers at all. They were just replaceable drones. Yes, I wasn't firing the right neurons and getting learnincurve confused with someone else. I'm an rear end my bad. e: get vaccinated and continue to wear a mask to protect yourself from becoming brain damaged like me! I still think the immune system, a hot mess of baroque evolutionary intricacies that we don't fully understand, has more points of failure than a decent mask you slap over your gob to keep the possibly tainted air away from your precious ACE2 receptors. It's not about the vaccine, it's just about how weird bodies are and can be. Both vaccine and mask are preferable, obviously, but dropping masks was such an unforced public health error I'm still kind of reeling at it. Strep Vote fucked around with this message at 03:44 on Jul 15, 2021 |
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Sixty-six percent isn’t remotely high enough for herd immunity. The vaccines could provide sterilizing immunity in every person who got them, and the virus would still spread exponentially in the unvaccinated masses. What did people expect? The fact that it didn’t get much worse, much sooner is a testament to the (poorly understood) seasonality of coronaviruses.
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Jul 15, 2021 03:54
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People, by and large, seem to think that covid is over. This includes people who took it seriously at the start, not just the deniers.
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Zugzwang posted:People, by and large, seem to think that covid is over. This includes people who took it seriously at the start, not just the deniers. I, for one, am looking forward to being smarter than everyone because I didn’t get long covid brain damage, only alcohol induced brain damage
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nexous posted:I, for one, am looking forward to being smarter than everyone because I didn’t get long covid brain damage, only alcohol induced brain damage Seriously though, I live near a major city and a bunch of my 20something coworkers are talking about moving there from the 'burbs for "the big post-covid party." There will no doubt be parties, but not post-covid ones.
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Jul 15, 2021 04:11
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Victoria is going into lockdown tonight. Thanks Gladys.
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Sort of good news from plague island. The right wing newspapers are all shocked an amazed that private businesses are taking up the option of asking customers to wear masks still. Lots of rumours about transport and transport hubs being made mask zones, first two big businesses to come out with a mask policy are Waterstones (books) and Sainsbury’s (supermarket and Argos mail order)
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Jul 15, 2021 08:39
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My kids secondary school in England is asking all the kids to mask up again, after dropping it months ago at the behest of the government, causing an uptick in cases. Which is surprising and welcome. Using masks again, not the cases.
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Jul 15, 2021 08:41
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Why wouldn’t places with huge quantities of unvaccinated people continue to get high infection rates? Is the confusion or shock performative?
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Fallom posted:Why wouldn’t places with huge quantities of unvaccinated people continue to get high infection rates? Is the confusion or shock performative? COVID horseshoe theory: People pushing maximum concern/fear about COVID end up becoming vaccine denialists just like the people who think COVID is a hoax.
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Fallom posted:Why wouldn’t places with huge quantities of unvaccinated people continue to get high infection rates? Is the confusion or shock performative? Yeah if they've got 66% full vaccination in their county of 766,000 people that means that there's still about 200,000 people who are unvaxxed and 60,000 who are partially vaxxed, so 40 to 50 cases a day isn't great but it's not a huge surprise. E: I googled and they've been fully reopened since June 14 with all schools and businesses open, no physical distancing requirements for most settings, no capacity limits for businesses, eased masking requirements and no mask requirements for vaccinated people in most settings, etc etc.. https://cmo.smcgov.org/press-release/june-14-2021-california-and-san-mateo-county-reopen-vaccinations-remain-key-ending 66% fully vaxxed and next-to-no NPIs means cases go up!
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https://twitter.com/axios/status/1415419582001467392 Thanks, Japan. Working hard. 
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why not get a robot to do it? stupid, stupid...
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wtf is that cdc case rate data? doesn’t match up with other sources
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I don’t know about this Dr Caballero, but Bedford’s work has been good. https://twitter.com/trvrb/status/1410376344735678468 Now that’s a big wave. Via this Caballero thread: https://twitter.com/DataDrivenMD/status/1412201867862450176
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I’m not impugning Dr Caballero, I checked the CDC case rate data for those counties he mentioned and it is wildly different from other sources.
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Platystemon posted:https://twitter.com/axios/status/1415419582001467392 There Was An Attempt Meme.jpeg Calling the Olympic Village orgies being ground zero for superspreader event.
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Jeza posted:why not get a robot to do it? stupid, stupid... Formula 1 had robots delver the trophies and it was one of the best things I’ve witnessed in the sport.
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Jul 15, 2021 13:31
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I will never trust anyone calling themselves "DataDrivenMD"
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BNT162b2 vaccine breakthrough: clinical characteristics of 152 fully-vaccinated hospitalized COVID-19 patients in Israelquote:Objectives
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The U.K. numbers guy Professor Ferguson has had a wild wild ride over covid and can’t openly post on Twitter anymore. He’s a director here and it’s either him or his people posting https://twitter.com/Imperial_JIDEA
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Charles 2 of Spain posted:I will never trust anyone calling themselves "DataDrivenMD" “I follow the data” is like bright stripes on a snake
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:E: I googled and they've been fully reopened since June 14 with all schools and businesses open, no physical distancing requirements for most settings, no capacity limits for businesses, eased masking requirements and no mask requirements for vaccinated people in most settings, etc etc.. Dren posted:wtf is that cdc case rate data? doesn’t match up with other sources Platystemon posted:I don’t know about this Dr Caballero, but Bedford’s work has been good.
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Lord Stimperor posted:Buying her that avatar is a real dick move. Does someone have the original? Let's put it back there.    
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from what we’ve seen in the U.K. 25% of infections being in children may be on the low side I wonder if that DataDriven guy has fallen for that thing NHS-E were warning scientists about where perfectly brilliant people are accidentally falling for very well faked data? E; a very sweet and kind admin took pity and blanked me 
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Zugzwang posted:Yikes. That's even more people than have been officially infected so far, although that number is surely undercounted. Yeah, I think that estimate is based on around 30% of the population having prior infection. So a bit over 100m people infected so far in the US. Assuming similar rate of finding cases, you'd see something like 12m more counted cases. Dren posted:wtf is that cdc case rate data? doesn’t match up with other sources Yeah, nothing seems to remotely match those CDC totals. I did find this in their footnotes: quote:Data presented here might differ from data on state and local websites. This can be due to differences in how data were collected (e.g., date a specimen was obtained or the date a case was reported) or how the metrics are calculated. Data presented here use standard metrics across all United States counties. For the most accurate and up-to-date data for a specific county or state, visit the relevant state or local health department website. I think the bolded part might explain the significant difference, but it doesn't specify how they are actually reporting it. Some places use date specimen was collected, others use onset of symptoms, others just go by when the case was reported. I have a feeling they are using date case was reported, since that's a thing that would explain this specific discrepancy, but without details I have no idea. Even with that, their results are so massively different it doesn't make sense to me unless they are somehow really screwing the pooch by using date they accepted the data, which with CDC data is often really inconsistent. I guess the other option is they are trying to fudge the numbers when they have incomplete data and it's just throwing up dumb numbers for recent weeks, but you'd think they'd mention it in the footnotes Edit: quote:Cases are based on date of report and not on date of symptom onset. wilderthanmild fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Jul 15, 2021 |
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learnincurve posted:I wonder if that DataDriven guy has fallen for that thing NHS-E were warning scientists about where perfectly brilliant people are accidentally falling for very well faked data? Why would the Centers for Disease Control fake data?
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We need some news footage highlighting young people in the hospital. I need another shame angle.
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Platystemon posted:https://twitter.com/axios/status/1415419582001467392 Get the tiny Fifa car to deliver the medals
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Zugzwang posted:Yeah, CA has been "open 'er up!" Not many people wear masks anymore, even though of course nobody's verifying who's vaxxed and who isn't. I did some bullshit napkin math based on case rates and my state's vaccination levels and came to a similar number, ~20% infected where the government didn't actively try and make things worse.
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Platystemon posted:Why would the Centers for Disease Control fake data? Yeah, I really doubt they'd fake data. However, this is a pretty big discrepancy with other sources, including the states they source their data from. For example, in San Mateo county they have the 7 day moving average of cases being almost 20x as high as California reports and in fact they have it higher than that county was at during it's peak according to the state dashboard. It's big enough that I really can't square it at all and it's really confusing, especially considering the source of their data is the state, so if someone was bullshitting numbers, you'd think it would start at the state and be reflected downstream. Edit: Okay one thing is their "moving average" is not really a moving average. Theirs is really just Cases Per 100k in the last 7 days, not a 7 day average of cases per 100k per day. That's a really weird thing that I wouldn't have expected the CDC to do differently. Even then it's like 2-3x what the state seems to report, but at least it's a lot closer to the ballpark. wilderthanmild fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Jul 15, 2021 |
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Platystemon posted:Why would the Centers for Disease Control fake data? People were saying the data was wildly different depending on the source and I was wondering if accidents had happened is all. We now know a lot of the early AstraZeneca information on the Internet is messed up for a crazy reason - the head of MI5 said yesterday there had been a deliberate Russian disinformation campaign targeting it. (He didn’t say why AZ in particular)
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Az released in the US first right? Probably election poo poo.
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Samuel L. Hacksaw posted:Az released in the US first right? Probably election poo poo. I don't think AZ was ever in the US.
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Yeah I don't think we have AZ here.
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Look at me, I'm dumb and wrong!
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wilderthanmild posted:I don't think AZ was ever in the US. Canadians who were planning to go to New York for a concert were disappointed to find out that if they were fully vaxxed with AZ they would be denied entry because it wasn't approved. I think it could be where the AZ was made that Canada got though. Purgatory Glory fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Jul 15, 2021 |
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Galewolf posted:There Was An Attempt Meme.jpeg i've said it before but you would think that after nearly 50 years of producing animes and video games where a megavirus manifests at the tokyo olympics which causes 95% of the human population to be obliterated and demons to roam the earth, japan would be a liiiiittle less blasé about this
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