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Finger Prince posted:I had to google it. Overall length. The olds is almost exactly a yard longer or 85cm. All trunk And hood (bonnet). Even though it was a "downsized intermediate" (versus the previous generation, definitely) G-body it still had an acre of hood. Gotta cover that V8, ya know.
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Hmm this seems problematic https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/14/gm-warns-some-bolt-ev-owners-dont-park-them-inside-or-charge-them-unattended-overnight.html
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Hey Bolt touchers, GM issued new guidance for 17s through 19s to park outside and not to charge in your garage unattended. Aka the recall issue isn't fixed. Two more Bolts with the "permanent fix" seem to have burst into flames while parked, too. Edit: goddamn sniped while someone walked up to my desk 
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Sounds like it's time to buy an old bolt so I can get a brand new battery put in it. Or a buyback for more money than the car's worth, VW dieselgate style.
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Yeah, we're on the line with GM's Bolt California team. They're going to have an offer for us by end of week in either a trade up or a buy back. We told them not being able to charge indoors was completely unacceptable.
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Westy543 posted:Hey Bolt touchers, GM issued new guidance for 17s through 19s to park outside and not to charge in your garage unattended. And this is why I didn't buy one. I knew the software fix was BS.
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So which EVs aren’t a risk for randomly catching fire in your driveway? The Bolt, Teslas, and the Kona have all had issues.
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Model 3 and Y packs have fire retardant potting material, so they generally won't. It took a long time to back port to Model S/X and I'm still not sure if they did. Kia's EVs seem good so far, but I'd worry by proximity to Hyundai? Leafs seem solid too from a fire pov. Hard to tell with other OEMs, but maybe VW? Can't say I remember many e-golf fires.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:So which EVs aren’t a risk for randomly catching fire in your driveway? The Bolt, Teslas, and the Kona have all had issues. For all it's other problems I've never heard of a Leaf catching fire at all let alone while charging.
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dissss posted:For all it's other problems I've never heard of a Leaf catching fire at all let alone while charging. The internet says it’s happened once https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-in_electric_vehicle_fire_incidents so I’m mentally breathing a sigh of relief
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dissss posted:For all it's other problems I've never heard of a Leaf catching fire at all let alone while charging. You could fix this with some good old gasoline We just cleaned our filthy automobile and I still really like the white interior. 
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cruft posted:You could fix this with some good old gasoline The last EV fire that was in the new around here was caused by the range extender in an i3 going up.
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kronix posted:If you talk to people and actually listen to their concerns, they're generally slightly less dumb and more likely explaining their concerns badly. I've suggested people get EVs when they ask me what new car to get and I always get the "How long does it take to charge?" question. That question usually relates to the following scenarios: Like I said, I'm happy to answer them. Telling them it is like a cell phone with wheels actually makes it MORE convenient is the point I get across. Basically there is this "ah ha! that is nice!" moment when they realize what it means. Then I explain the other possibilities including up to 75 hours on a 120v outlet to less than a bathroom or snack break on a DC fast charger.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:So which EVs aren’t a risk for randomly catching fire in your driveway? The Bolt, Teslas, and the Kona have all had issues. Looking at the technology as it stands, none of them. Basically any manufacturer can find a way to gently caress up lithium ion batteries without realizing it and it may take a decade of incremental improvements before EV fire risk can be minimized. I would avoid the Tesla until someone has enough sense to mandate an easily accessible manually-operated door catch on all passenger doors, because why the gently caress would you allow an electric-actuation only door catch on a car that has a small but non-negligible chance of rapidly cooking its passengers alive if they don't bail out in time?
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Lol Tesla door handles amirite https://i.imgur.com/7g6esOs.gifv https://i.imgur.com/cLDXzbt.gifv https://i.imgur.com/73KJWjU.gifv These are all poo poo too.
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Finger Prince posted:Lol Tesla door handles amirite He meant the inside handles, which do not exist. There are various hidden emergency releases or mechanism depending on the model and seat you’re in but they aren’t necessarily conducive to quick egress. I’m sure they aren’t the only offender in that space either but most ICE cars with electronic locks that I’m familiar with still seem to have a mechanical override to allow you to open the door from the inside in case of a loss of battery power. YOLOsubmarine fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Jul 15, 2021 |
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The model 3 and y rear doors don't have any manual override. the S and X apparently do but it's hidden in a non-obvious spot. It's sillier than the (admittedly silly) outside door handles because there's no reason they couldn't have just doubled up the front door manual releases for the rear doors and avoided the whole issue aside from penny-pinching of the most severe manner.
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Finger Prince posted:Lol Tesla door handles amirite ngl some base instinct in me expected a CD tray to pop out of that last one.
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Triggerhappypilot posted:The model 3 and y rear doors don't have any manual override. the S and X apparently do but it's hidden in a non-obvious spot. It's sillier than the (admittedly silly) outside door handles because there's no reason they couldn't have just doubled up the front door manual releases for the rear doors and avoided the whole issue aside from penny-pinching of the most severe manner. Why it’s allowed to be that big of a pain to get to, I have zero idea. Maybe because the manual release bypasses the electronic lock, and having it easily reachable isn’t great for child safety?
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Aino Minako posted:ngl some base instinct in me expected a CD tray to pop out of that last one. that's for your coffee mug
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Westy543 posted:Apparently evgo bought plugshare If it gets too bad they might go the way of Encarta v Wikipedia
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Westy543 posted:Yeah, we're on the line with GM's Bolt California team. They're going to have an offer for us by end of week in either a trade up or a buy back. We told them not being able to charge indoors was completely unacceptable. That's bad enough, but the article said they don't even want you parking them indoors. At that point GM just needs to start writing massive checks and take the loss as a car you can't park in a garage is fairly insane, and just imagine the lawsuits if your Bolt is parked in an apartment garage and then starts a fire.
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Westy543 posted:Apparently evgo bought plugshare RIP PlugShare, you were really useful and I'll stick with you until I can't handle the pain any longer
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Welp, the Jeep has been sold and the MY should be here in a few weeks. Fully ready to be living the electric life style! Anything I should get before the Y gets here? I'm not going with the $500 Tesla charger and will just install a NEMA 14-50 outlet and grab the adapter. Should I grab another Gen 2 mobile connector as well? One to keep in the car and one to keep at home? Any recommendations on floor mats for the trunk area? I have 2 large dogs I'll be driving around and would like something that covers not only the trunk away but also the area when the rear seats are folded down to keep the dog hair on the actual seat backs and trunk floor to a minimum.
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mattfl posted:Should I grab another Gen 2 mobile connector as well? One to keep in the car and one to keep at home? This is not a bad idea, but it depends on how often you will be going on trips that need L2 charging away from home. If it is something you will hardly ever do, then it may not be worth the $300 to get a second mobile connector. You would just have to remember to pack up the included mobile connector when you do go on a trip like that. It is very convenient to always have a charging cable ready at home that you don't have to unpack from the car and plug in every time. Also make sure you get an industrial rated or RV rated 14-50 outlet, because the generics may start having poor contact issues in as little as 30-50 cycles (plugging and unplugging) which can end in flames.
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Indiana_Krom posted:Also make sure you get an industrial rated or RV rated 14-50 outlet, because the generics may start having poor contact issues in as little as 30-50 cycles (plugging and unplugging) which can end in flames. Question. I recently had a 1450 Outlet installed in my garage, and my usual routine is just to leave my charger plugged in to the outlet even when the vehicle is not being charged. Is that a big deal?
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:Question. I recently had a 1450 Outlet installed in my garage, and my usual routine is just to leave my charger plugged in to the outlet even when the vehicle is not being charged. Is that a big deal? That's fine, better even. The J1772 plug itself is rated for tens of thousands of plugins. the 14-50 plug, much less so.
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Finger Prince posted:Lol Tesla door handles amirite Tesla had a terrible design idea with the Model S and all other manufacturers are copying it. Not the first time. But I think the Model 3 handles are fine. Extra motors that will probably break or malfunction in a door handle I'm not a fan of. But I guess I'm no at "luxury vehicle" driver: Maybe they like spending time at the shop. Aino Minako posted:ngl some base instinct in me expected a CD tray to pop out of that last one. I'd like that as an option.
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mattfl posted:Anything I should get before the Y gets here? https://www.amazon.com/Premium-Car-Safety-Hammer-Emergency/dp/B07ZRCB4QH
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I have these in all my vehicles already!
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mattfl posted:I'm not going with the $500 Tesla charger and will just install a NEMA 14-50 outlet and grab the adapter. Should I grab another Gen 2 mobile connector as well? One to keep in the car and one to keep at home? That’s what I’m doing. The 14-50 outlet is on the wall already and another mobile connector/14-50 plug is on order. Be sure to get the mounting kit, either from Tesla or somewhere else, so that the plug isn’t holding the weight of the connector; that’ll apparently damage it over time. It’s also easier to make a case for something called “mobile” to be used with the 30% home EVSE tax credit if I can show that it’s in some way attached to the house, should I happen to be audited. My thinking was, if the mobile connector on the wall ever dies, I will have another one ready to go while I deal with the warranty. Likewise, if the one I take with me dies, I can just unplug the one on the wall and take it when I need to. I have no idea if they’re solid devices or if they go out occasionally, but in any case I’d hate to be stuck on slow public charging or driving 30 minutes to a supercharger while I deal with replacing the thing.
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Lots of Lightning videos just released. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Siqfr6v-ew https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfZ_dWAWWFM
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Someone correct me if I am mistaken, but I thought these won't work in the newer Tesla Y/3/etc with the layered side window glass (it is laminated just like a windshield so it won't shatter or collapse even if it is cracked/broken).
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Indiana_Krom posted:Someone correct me if I am mistaken, but I thought these won't work in the newer Tesla Y/3/etc with the layered side window glass (it is laminated just like a windshield so it won't shatter or collapse even if it is cracked/broken). I don't know how well it will work, but it's only the front windows that are laminated and the front doors have manual release anyway.
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mattfl posted:Anything I should get before the Y gets here? I'm not going with the $500 Tesla charger and will just install a NEMA 14-50 outlet and grab the adapter. Should I grab another Gen 2 mobile connector as well? One to keep in the car and one to keep at home? Honestly, a second UMC is a waste of money. Just take the one you have whenever you go on really long trips, and forget about it. 99% of the time you'll be charging on either Tesla destination chargers or using your J1772 adapter to plug into the others. I've done 2 5,000+ mile road trips in both my Model 3s, and only had to use my UMC at hotels twice.
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Nfcknblvbl posted:Honestly, a second UMC is a waste of money. Just take the one you have whenever you go on really long trips, and forget about it. 99% of the time you'll be charging on either Tesla destination chargers or using your J1772 adapter to plug into the others. That's kinda what my thought process was too.
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I feel like the only UMC plugs I'd want are like 14-50 and maybe like 10-30?
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You should also consider how likely you are to flake out and forget to bring the UMC with you when you need it. This scenario has a 100% chance of happening to me, for instance. We're on a road trip right now and I've used the portable charger twice at my in-laws place. It was not on my mind as something I might need when we were packing our bags to leave home.
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cruft posted:You should also consider how likely you are to flake out and forget to bring the UMC with you when you need it. This scenario has a 100% chance of happening to me, for instance. This looks like a pretty nifty mobile EVSE. Can carry around a 5-15 and whatever 220v plug you want and do both level 1 and 2 charging (much like the tesla mobile charger can do) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078PKB2JW/?coliid=I2Q8AQL2MYEFXB&colid=3Q8KC5FA5W5V1&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it My main problem with it is the 5-15 cable does not follow code limits for a max of 80% amp continuous, instead drawing a 15a. It's a shame it does that since that's pretty much a deal breaker there as a level 1 charger.
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