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quote:IGN: What's the reasonable shelf life for this? What is the sort of long tail of it? Is it something that is going to be upgraded or will there be a 2.0 version of this in a few years? Do you anticipate or want other hardware makers to use the same SteamOS and make their own version? Do you look at this as a platform? Wait... so this is running on SteamOS? There's not Windows on these things, so you can really only play the Steam library available on Linux. I guess if this had normal windows, it'd just be a doofy gamerlaptop with a built in controller, but instead it's just a Linux Gamegear. 300 bucks is the max I'm ever willing to spend on a machine that only plays videogames, a dollar more and I'd better be able to use that thing to constantly post about videogames.
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Seymour Buttz posted:My question as a complete PC idiot is - just about how far off is this thing from say, a PS5, when it comes to how well it will run current games. I saw someone saying it has some of the same hardware but it can't be just as powerful as the huge PS5. Is this thing closer to a Nintendo Switch power-wise? Or, if I hooked it up to a TV could it almost compare to my PS5? It's much closer to a PS5 than a Nintendo Switch, which was showing its age barely a year after being out and now feels ancient. In fact, this thing should run most multiplatform games you'll see on the PS5 because it will run them at a lower resolution. Khanstant posted:Wait... so this is running on SteamOS? There's not Windows on these things, so you can really only play the Steam library available on Linux. I guess if this had normal windows, it'd just be a doofy gamerlaptop with a built in controller, but instead it's just a Linux Gamegear. You can install Windows on it; it's actually listed as a feature. SteamOS is also not as lovely as you think -- it's made so much leaps and bounds in the last few years that Linux now runs nearly every single AAA game excluding the ones with the shittiest DRM. Saoshyant fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Jul 15, 2021 |
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Khanstant posted:Wait... so this is running on SteamOS? There's not Windows on these things, so you can really only play the Steam library available on Linux. I guess if this had normal windows, it'd just be a doofy gamerlaptop with a built in controller, but instead it's just a Linux Gamegear. The IGN hands on says you can straight up wipe steamOS and just install Windows if you want.
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Fargin Icehole posted:Are we just looping back design wise into the game gear? Hold up, wasn't the codename for this thing the Neptune? And this looks like a gamegear... C.M. Kruger posted:Gabe Newell is going to make Nepgear real. Jesus christ
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imagining the kind of person who in the bitcoin era of 2021 has still been upgrading their rig every 2 years on the dot and am pretty envious tbh
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Khanstant posted:Wait... so this is running on SteamOS? There's not Windows on these things, so you can really only play the Steam library available on Linux. I guess if this had normal windows, it'd just be a doofy gamerlaptop with a built in controller, but instead it's just a Linux Gamegear. no it runs windows games on proton (a wine variant), and it works fine. If you're concerned about that you can just wipe it and install windows 10 if you want.
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Seymour Buttz posted:I think I really really want the Steam Game Gear because I'm the exact person it was made for. Don't know poo poo about PCs, don't have the time to learn how to build one, just wanna play games real easy, I want gyro controls, and I like portability for working on the road. First of all a PS5 outputs much much higher resolution, up to 4K in some cases I believe (?). I assume that saves quite a bit on processing power, to only output in low resolution to a small screen, which allows it to play more graphically intensive games (not more than the PS5, I mean more than it would otherwise). Happy Noodle Boy posted:Honestly a controller-less (maybe even no screen) micro-PC version of this that you just dock on any monitor and play with a wireless controller or wireless m/kb would be pretty loving cool. Wouldn't that mean it could still only output in 1280x800? That would look incredibly lovely on a TV/monitor
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Fargin Icehole posted:Are we just looping back design wise into the game gear? It weighs about as much as the game gear too
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Leal posted:Hold up, wasn't the codename for this thing the Neptune? And this looks like a gamegear... This is me right now 
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Serephina posted:DoomRL still exists, and I'm honestly unsure what Jupiter Hell is bringing to the table. Kornel may have been borrowing too heavily for his games, but I still miss AliensRL for it's flavour/potential. JH seems so... bland from its previews =/ edit: sorry, I got carried away and didn't address what I actually quoted. JH brings accessibility to people who find "true" roguelikes to be indecipherable. A few people are excited about it in the Roguelikes thread, but the consensus seems to be that people would prefer letters, numbers, and punctuation to its graphic style. If you are one of those people, it probably doesn't offer anything to you. I really like the idea of roguelikes but can't devote hours learning how to figure out what's on my screen or memorizing a dizzying array of keyboard controls, so it's perfect for me. I've put about 90 hours in at various points of development. As above, I think if you're a hardcore rogue fan, there probably won't be enough to satisfy you. There are only three classes with about 8 skills apiece, and while loot is randomized, you kind of have to commit to a style at the beginning of a run and so unique drops don't change a lot unless they happen to fit your chosen strategy and/or drop near the beginning of a run. There are also only like a dozen-ish enemy types which are mixed between different kinds of ranged and melee threats (except bots, which can hurt you the same at any distance. gently caress bots.) Weapons and armor are modifiable, though you have to develop a specific skill to see all of the options and the base level ones are kind of weak. Completion of a run takes roughly an hour and a half, but you can drop in and out at any time, which suits my available time and gaming ADHD well. I rarely sit down long enough to do one run in a single sitting. Certain classes/skills are extremely powerful, and some are extremely challenging (soldier with shotgun vs. scout with melee, for example), so it's a little unbalanced but I guess it lets you pick your poison. A melee run on easy or normal is doable, but is masochistic on Nightmare. In all the hours I've played, I've only consistently reached the end of easy and a few normal runs. If the idea of a fast-paced, turn-based action game that you can jump in and out of for variable-length play sessions seems interesting, I'd give it a shot. It's just as over-the-top violent as Doom. Nothing feels better than wiping four enemies with one shot of double-barreled shotgun, or zipping through a room full of guys with a knife while they shoot each other by accident and start killing each other for you. My major complaint is that it obfuscates important information from the player. This mod increases my melee guard but what is my base melee guard? Who just shot me and how much damage did they do? How much damage did I just do? How frequently am I getting criticals? Did I just successfully dodge or did the enemy miss? Someone may know the answers to these questions, but I don't think they got them in-game. All-in-all though, I really like it. It's one of the few EA games I haven't burnt out on before release and that hasn't drastically changed direction during development to the point that I no longer enjoy it. BrianRx fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Jul 15, 2021 |
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Saoshyant posted:It's much closer to a PS5 than a Nintendo Switch, which was showing its age barely a year after being out. In fact, this thing should run most multiplatform games you'll see on the PS5 because it will run them at a lower resolution. The video also said that it has ray tracing core but lol at actually being able to use RT on this thing.
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The spec sheet says this thing can output up to 8k on a monitor but eh. I'm sure it would have no issues doing 4k but not in games.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:People are currently, at this very point, buying 5-6 year old video cards for more than this portable console/PC because you can’t find poo poo and keep things upgraded in any reasonable or timely fashion. The idea of thinking this will only have a 2 year shelf life is absolutely loving hilarious. why do u think gpus will never exist again. how is the handheld w 8 CUs going to have any shelf life even at sub 1080p lol
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Leal posted:Hold up, wasn't the codename for this thing the Neptune? And this looks like a gamegear... Wow  Happy Noodle Boy posted:This is me right now
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Some of the takes in here are confirming this dead forum as boomerville
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Steam Deck looks cool as heck. I don't give a hot balls what the thing looks like, I want to know what it's like to actually use. I've never used a Steam controller but I also have never been interested in one. I do however have a Valve Index and it's super well-built and nice if you're into VR, and the controllers for that are glorious things I adore. I have no actual reason to buy a steam deck as I have my giant fat PC right in front of my giant, fat face, but I am intrigued in the tiny portable PC. EDIT victrix posted:Some of the takes in here are confirming this dead forum as boomerville absolutely this, you bunch of weirdo old people lol
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Khanstant posted:to constantly post about videogames. gross what sick person would do this
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Can u hook this up to a valve index and finally get the portable vr experience everyone craves?
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Play posted:Wouldn't that mean it could still only output in 1280x800? That would look incredibly lovely on a TV/monitor What? It'll output to whatever resolution screen you plug into it. At 1.6 Tflops it's not going to be doing much 4k gaming, but for general desktop usage/browsing it'll work perfectly competently as a PC.
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are the boomers the ones saying the specs aren't good enough or the ones saying the specs are good
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The idea of a portable device that could pull my whole Steam library is definitely tempting, but this is something where I'd want to have it out there for a few months and see some impressions on usability and performance from actual people.
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I mean I just don't super have a use case for playing my PC games off my PC so it's not a product I need or want but there's no reason it can't be a good thing. I just think this particular design has some real ergonomics issues and hopefully you can plug another controller in or something.
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Cowcaster posted:are the boomers the ones saying the specs aren't good enough or the ones saying the specs are good They are the ones dismissing a new thing out of hand because it isn't what they are used to. You know, a thing that boomers are known for.
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they shouldve made a commercial where someones snaps and changes the bg colour everytime they plug in one of the controllers it supports. like an 18 minute long commercial where every janky usb controller seller on aliexpress gets a time to shine.
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MarcusSA posted:Its only $50 more than the switch OLED lol Good luck playing GOAT Super Mario Odyssey on the SteamDeck.
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Khanstant posted:Can u hook this up to a valve index and finally get the portable vr experience everyone craves?
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KakerMix posted:They are the ones dismissing a new thing out of hand because it isn't what they are used to. i mean at the end of the day it's a handheld console it's not the most paradigm shattering thing to ever be thought up
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I think it should have the same control setup as the steam controller. Then it'll sell like hot cakes
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If you just imagine this a literally a tiny little PC - plug it into a generic USB-C dock, and you can use whatever peripherals/screens you like. You don't even need to wait for the official dock, something like this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Docking-Station-Adapter-Multiport-MacBook-Gray-10-1/dp/B08MT3PKBB/ I assume will work fine.
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KakerMix posted:They are the ones dismissing a new thing out of hand because it isn't what they are used to. lmao
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End of the day it'll be more powerful than the lazy rear end OLED switch, but less popular because Nintendo.
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You could slap yuzu on this thing, I wonder if this can emulate Switch games better than a Switch can play em.Marx Headroom posted:2 hour battery life already losing to switch here, switch gets 2.5 hours
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Pablo Nergigante posted:Good luck playing GOAT Super Mario Odyssey on the SteamDeck. I know you are joking but this thing should emulate the switch perfectly well and you would be able to play it. This thing is an emulation powerhouse. Khanstant posted:You could slap yuzu on this thing, I wonder if this can emulate Switch games better than a Switch can play em. Looking at the specs I think it could.
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Pablo Nergigante posted:Good luck playing GOAT Super Mario Odyssey on the SteamDeck.  Actually this thing should run Yuzu just fine.:efb:
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Marx Headroom posted:2 hour battery life What else did you expect from a Game Gear?
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Marx Headroom posted:2 hour battery life if it's USB-C, I wonder if you can plug like a Anker battery pack into it
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Saoshyant posted:It's much closer to a PS5 than a Nintendo Switch, which was showing its age barely a year after being out and now feels ancient. In fact, this thing should run most multiplatform games you'll see on the PS5 because it will run them at a lower resolution. Thank you. I don't think my eyes care about resolution above whatever this thing can probably do, so if I can run games at 60fps on it at a lower resolution I'll be satisfied. Stux posted:why do u think gpus will never exist again. how is the handheld w 8 CUs going to have any shelf life even at sub 1080p lol edit: meant to quote this person whoops: Deviant posted:so what the hell am i supposed to do with this thing in 2 years when all my games have outpaced the hardware inside Hey bud. It's a handheld gaming device, not a gaming PC. Nobody said "what am I supposed to do with this GameBoy Advance years from now when I can't run whatever games come out then". You buy it if you want to play games on it for a while, and then when games move past it, you either don't use it anymore or you use it to play the games you always played on it. It's a different thing than the thing you like. Seymour Buttz fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Jul 15, 2021 |
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