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Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry

Computer viking posted:

I've never really dealt with IBM, but the impression I'm getting these days is that they're effectively trying to become a subsidiary of some mediocre indian outsourcing company?

They were making some huge advancements on machine learning a while back, but I never hear anyone talking about them any more. Except for shops that have some legacy Z/OS mainframe or iSeries system that they are desperately trying to migrate off of.

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Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry
Remember the time that IBM Watson was allowed to learn from the Urban Dictionary and they had to clean up it's databases because it said the answer to a question was "bullshit"?

https://www.theatlantic.com/technol...lete-it/267047/

flavor.flv
Apr 18, 2008

I got a letter from the government the other day
opened it, read it
it said they was bitches





Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



I'm looking at a Facebook ad for a Mac Plus with a "Hard Disk 20" (not SCSI) drive and a printer, apparently everything works except for the floppy eject mechanism, trying to decide if it's worth $160 or not... I'm kind of enamored of the idea of it as an over-elaborate serial terminal.

What a loving fool I was for not acquiring these old Macs by the dozen in the early 2000s, when you could generally find one sitting on the curb if you drove around long enough on any given Saturday.

BigFactory
Sep 17, 2002

Pham Nuwen posted:

I'm looking at a Facebook ad for a Mac Plus with a "Hard Disk 20" (not SCSI) drive and a printer, apparently everything works except for the floppy eject mechanism, trying to decide if it's worth $160 or not... I'm kind of enamored of the idea of it as an over-elaborate serial terminal.

What a loving fool I was for not acquiring these old Macs by the dozen in the early 2000s, when you could generally find one sitting on the curb if you drove around long enough on any given Saturday.

The floppy eject mechanism was the best part. It made a great sound

At one point I had a couple Mac plusses and SEs and I had a plan to appletalk them all together and have like terminals in different parts of the house where you could message other people and then cell phones happened.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

BigFactory posted:

The floppy eject mechanism was the best part. It made a great sound



I have not heard this sound in decades yet heard it perfectly in my head when I read this lol

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

Code Jockey posted:

I have not heard this sound in decades yet heard it perfectly in my head when I read this lol

Exactly the same thing happened to me. I can hear it perfectly!

snorch
Jul 27, 2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMNw99Q8Ok0

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule



"Thats pretty slick"

namlosh
Feb 11, 2014

I name this haircut "The Sad Rhino".
We would install MacPuke on all of the machines at school so I always here it with a


Bbbbbllllllelaaaaaaaaahhh

90s Solo Cup
Feb 22, 2011

To understand the cup
He must become the cup




I'm a bit salty over how smoothly Need for Speed II runs on that PC. I had the Playstation version which ran at a blazing 25 fps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5Io0YYvQtQ

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
My first interaction with Need For Speed was the Panasonic 3DO version. It was cool at the time, but yeah, that version ran at 15 FPS.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



Lol @ how much fuel it costs to get a Luggable into orbit

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004



:ninja:

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.
Those are my current speakers :cool:

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

CPColin posted:

Those are my current speakers :cool:

Same here on my vintage computer setup. Got Cambridge Soundworks 2.1s on my current gaming PC that I got bundled with the SB Live! back in the late 90s

DicktheCat
Feb 15, 2011

There's a particular smell that setup brings to me, and I'm not sure I can describe it.

Eau de nostalgia?

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

Eau de electrolyte

I've gotten pretty good at replacing those tiny smd capacitor cans on logic boards but I hate how complicated it is to swap out all the old perished caps in power supplies and analogue boards

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug
I always assumed it was the smell of the fire inhibitors and dye in the plastic gassing off as your screen and case heats up.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
Man, this looks slick as hell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vup_uNtvfgo

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule



The Web Version! (as mentioned in the video)
https://rigelengine.nikolai-wuttke.de/

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
It's no donkey sanctuary, but if anyone is in the Houston area, there is a big tech relic liquidation happening this weekend.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1178156389355802/

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Oh snap I have a larger version of those speakers. They're awesome.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlFnMt3o1as

Newly discovered Lemmings content!

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer
Are SAS drives still a thing that people use? I have a couple brand new 1gb Seagate Enterprise SAS drives, factory sealed.

Fantastic Foreskin
Jan 6, 2013

A golden helix streaked skyward from the Helvault. A thunderous explosion shattered the silver monolith and Avacyn emerged, free from her prison at last.

Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:

Are SAS drives still a thing that people use? I have a couple brand new 1gb Seagate Enterprise SAS drives, factory sealed.

If by people you mean enterprises, yes. People? No.

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer

Fantastic Foreskin posted:

If by people you mean enterprises, yes. People? No.

Makes sense. I think I ordered them for an xserve but never used them.

If anyone here wants them, they can have them. They're just clutter at this point.

Fantastic Foreskin
Jan 6, 2013

A golden helix streaked skyward from the Helvault. A thunderous explosion shattered the silver monolith and Avacyn emerged, free from her prison at last.

Might want to offer them up in the storage and/or home server threads in SH/SC too.

insta
Jan 28, 2009

Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:

Are SAS drives still a thing that people use? I have a couple brand new 1gb Seagate Enterprise SAS drives, factory sealed.

did SAS and 1gb drives even overlap, or did you mean 1TB?

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

Fantastic Foreskin posted:

If by people you mean enterprises, yes. People? No.

people who work for enterprises too
imo the best perk of being a professional computer janitor is dumpster diving enterprise gear that is built to last forever
of the 24 1tb sas drives in these machines i think there have been zero failures in over 7 years of 24/7 operation



just close your eyes when the power bill comes

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

r u ready to WALK posted:

people who work for enterprises too
imo the best perk of being a professional computer janitor is dumpster diving enterprise gear that is built to last forever
of the 24 1tb sas drives in these machines i think there have been zero failures in over 7 years of 24/7 operation



just close your eyes when the power bill comes

I'm jealous!

I run an HP DL380 server with SAS drives for my VM host (that runs poo poo like my Plex server, a backup server, various little Linux VMs for things) and it takes SAS disks, but yeah I assume you meant TB, because lol 1 gig drive

And yeah, lifecycled enterprise gear on Craigslist tends to be relatively cheap and will run forever, and also heat your house nicely!

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Code Jockey posted:

I'm jealous!

I run an HP DL380 server with SAS drives for my VM host (that runs poo poo like my Plex server, a backup server, various little Linux VMs for things) and it takes SAS disks, but yeah I assume you meant TB, because lol 1 gig drive

And yeah, lifecycled enterprise gear on Craigslist tends to be relatively cheap and will run forever, and also heat your house nicely!

I used to have a DL380 Gen8 all maxxed out on the CPU and RAM. I really didn't like it due to all the fuckery (enterprise) poo poo I had to learn to get it to do what I wanted. This was matched with a StorageWorks D4500 or something that has 12 Full Size SAS sockets.

Not long after owning I relegated that to a door stop due to noise and power, and now it lives in a building at work doing server stuff while I make money leasing it to the company. At home now I have the StorageWorks by itself and the Mini-SAS SFF-8088 cable through a hole in the wall to my gaming PC that has the interface card installed in the PCIE. I can do whatever I want as far as torrents, gaming, managing server and have 5 concurrent Plex users at a time and I don't notice any issues.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Our "120TB on a budget" file server at work is a very similar setup - except that I could not really justify paying nearly thrice the price for HP certified drives-in-caddies, so it's just jammed full of off-the-shelf 8/10/12 TB SAS drives. This works fine, except that when you fill a storageworks chassis with drives but no ($100+ if you can even buy them) cryptographically signed HPE disk caddies, it turns every fan to 100% and holds them there. We keep it in an unused office, so whatever; it does work perfectly fine besides the angry vacuum cleaner noises, and has so far lasted well beyond any warranty.

When we do replace it, I still think I'll try to find a chassis that either takes bare drives or has cheap and easily available caddies, though.

Computer viking has a new favorite as of 01:42 on Jul 24, 2021

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Computer viking posted:

Our "120TB on a budget" file server at work is a very similar setup - except that I could not really justify paying nearly thrice the price for HP certified drives-in-caddies, so it's just jammed full of off-the-shelf 8/10/12 TB SAS drives. This works fine, except that when you fill a storageworks chassis with drives but no ($100+ if you can even buy them) cryptographically signed HPE disk caddies, it turns every fan to 100% and holds them there. We keep it in an unused office, so whatever; it does work perfectly fine besides the angry vacuum cleaner noises, and has so far lasted well beyond any warranty.

When we do replace it, I still think I'll try to find a chassis that either takes bare drives or has cheap and easily available caddies, though.

I bought cheap chinese caddies, fans arent 100%. If I remove a drive though on the otherhand it loses it's mind.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

I looked at that around the time I bought it, but at least back then the only third party caddies I could get were for the previous generation - supposedly because HPE had started signing the traffic between the temperature probe and the chassis. Now that you mention it I guess it's time to take another look; I'm sure some intrepid manufacturer has worked around that by now.

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer

insta posted:

did SAS and 1gb drives even overlap, or did you mean 1TB?

Oh poo poo yeah 1 TB

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Computer viking posted:

I looked at that around the time I bought it, but at least back then the only third party caddies I could get were for the previous generation - supposedly because HPE had started signing the traffic between the temperature probe and the chassis. Now that you mention it I guess it's time to take another look; I'm sure some intrepid manufacturer has worked around that by now.

I'm all pissed off cos Chia miners have discovered the StorageWorks that are surplus and the price is rising. I'm about to expand to 24 drives and I am too cheap to pony up $200 now. I'll just keep an eye out for deals that sneak through

T.C.
Feb 10, 2004

Believe.

Gonz posted:

My first interaction with Need For Speed was the Panasonic 3DO version. It was cool at the time, but yeah, that version ran at 15 FPS.

I mean, I remember game reviews in the early PC 3d era where 15fps was considered playable. Pretty sure I tried to play stuff at, maybe, 10. 30 was considered the peak above which improvement wasn't a big deal.

flavor.flv
Apr 18, 2008

I got a letter from the government the other day
opened it, read it
it said they was bitches




It still is

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longview
Dec 25, 2006

heh.
I feel like it's borderline retro still but I managed to get a free for a minor favour 15" PowerBook G4 early 2005 model, great condition, just a slight dent on one corner.

1.5 GHz G4, 1280x854 display, 512 MB of RAM.

Slightly annoyingly it's much too new to boot OS 9, so I have Leopard installed now after learning more than I wanted to about OpenFirmware in order to USB boot the installer (while I do have a stack of dual layer DVD-RWs (didn't think they existed but that's what the label says?), I have no burner available)
Tiger might be better since I can run Classic in that version, but it was enough of a pain getting Leopard on there that it can wait.
Battery's completely shot, might have to give replacing the cells a try when I get home and can disassemble it properly and figure out what's inside.



Looks like KingSpec PATA SSDs are the most plug and play solution for an SSD upgrade?

And I suppose a FireWire external hard drive could be useful, firewire seems to be the preferred external storage interface in this era so might be easier to work with?

longview has a new favorite as of 14:45 on Jul 28, 2021

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