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AlphaKeny1 posted:become beautiful and murder you're friends A good tagline for the thread.
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It looks like the main character and the silver dude can split back apart into their original forms. From the initial stuff I thought it would be a demifiend situation where the change was permanent.
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Jul 15, 2021 13:02
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You asked for gender choice on protags so they made the protag gender neutral like an angel (I choose to believe this until they say this is not what's going on)
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Jul 15, 2021 14:20
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Cosmic Egg is grossss The game gave me new challenge quests in the middle of the egg, I assume I get a chance to go back to Tokyo after I end the egg.
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Jul 15, 2021 15:29
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The game won't let you save beyond a point of no return, no need to worry about that.
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Jul 15, 2021 15:59
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That story trailer has me reaching critical levels of hype, I can't believe how loving good this game looks really want to know what the deal is with the demon that looks like evil Aku-Aku and lets people ride around in his mouth
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Jul 15, 2021 16:51
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Golden Goat posted:Cosmic Egg is grossss The tokyo-centric nature of the plot kinda makes you realize that the torrents of souls you see in the egg wouldn't really be possible in an actual post apocalypse tokyo. The numbers don't add up. Not to mention that The Eastern Kingdom of Mikado wasn't targeted by the divine powers after the cosmic egg was made, even though there's a huge hole in the ceiling and plenty of souls above ground while the angels are in complete disarray from merkabah getting murked. I handwave it away by having a headcanon that being trapped in a slow-time field under masakado with the expanse reactor has caused Tokyo to be supersaturated with magnetite from the expanse, and the souls of the humans within are super extra potent to the divine powers because of all the accumulated magnetite stored within. But that same dense magnetite atmosphere in tokyo that allows powerful deities to summon themselves into tokyo with little effort also traps them there since they can't sustain themselves effortlessly anywhere else without an external source. The weaker demons on the surface don't need that much magnetite to manifest, and the swarms of angels and archangels aboveground are sustained by the world itself because of YHVH controlling the current universe. I'm probably getting a lot wrong, but the fact the divine powers dont seem to be trying to harvest Mikados many souls after the cosmic egg forms is a frustrating thing. Pharohman777 fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Jul 15, 2021 |
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I can't believe I beat Hard mode Matador on my second try... funny enough, that makes him, like, one of the EASIER boss fights for me so far outside of Forneus.
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Jul 16, 2021 05:20
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:You asked for gender choice on protags so they made the protag gender neutral like an angel (I choose to believe this until they say this is not what's going on) I certainly did appreciate Nanashi being kinda sorta androdgynous also I can't spell
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Jul 16, 2021 05:40
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Golden Goat posted:Cosmic Egg is grossss golden goat eat the egg
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Jul 16, 2021 06:07
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Nozomi: *Misses an attack once* Dagda: "SEE! SEE HOW YOUR FRIENDS ARE WORTHLESS SHITES YOUR BETTER OFF WITHOUT!" Pharohman777 posted:I'm probably getting a lot wrong, but the fact the divine powers dont seem to be trying to harvest Mikados many souls after the cosmic egg forms is a frustrating thing. I never actually thought about it. In my head the game centers so much around Tokyo the outside world just sorta fades away. Bogart posted:golden goat eat the egg Make me.
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Jul 16, 2021 08:04
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Golden Goat posted:Nozomi: *Misses an attack once* He's right they do kind of suck
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Jul 16, 2021 08:11
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Asahi's been the main one I use since she's all about healing. It's actually kind of weird when in the story she's doubting herself when she's probably the best partner. Gaston's the worst soley for taking my drat turns. Golden Goat fucked around with this message at 08:20 on Jul 16, 2021 |
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Jul 16, 2021 08:14
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Yeah she's the best, probably. Though that random chance that her demons don't listen to her makes it hard to rely on her
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Jul 16, 2021 08:17
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Friend Ranking Endgame Asahi Early Game Navarre Toki Hallelujah Never Use Nozomi Gaston Although there is one fight I use Gaston for due to story reasons. Doesn't feel right using somebody else there.
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Jul 16, 2021 08:36
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excuse me, endgame navarre is awesome 
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Jul 16, 2021 08:45
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I keep forgetting Isabeau is a partner and is even here with the rest of the crew. I'm in the fifth area of the egg and now it's introduced invisible teleporters which are mostly annoying. E: Okay lol Danu: "I cant bear to kill you son... SO I MADE A BRAND NEW BETTER SON TO DO IT FOR ME!" Golden Goat fucked around with this message at 10:08 on Jul 16, 2021 |
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Jul 16, 2021 09:21
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Isabeau is straight up better than Asahi until Asahi gets Cheer and is pretty comparable in usefulness after. Navarre is also good but the other party members are pretty situational at best.
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Jul 16, 2021 10:09
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WrightOfWay posted:Isabeau is straight up better than Asahi until Asahi gets Cheer and is pretty comparable in usefulness after. Navarre is also good but the other party members are pretty situational at best. For bosses i like asahi bc free healing good but for randos its toki all the way
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Jul 16, 2021 11:51
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cheetah7071 posted:He's right they do kind of suck  Friendship sucks! Anarchy/Destroyer all the way! 
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Jul 16, 2021 14:12
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Every time I try to go the Anarchy route I just can't do it. I was streaming the game to one of my friends and savestated at the final choice just to see what that was about. We got gut-punched pretty hard by that.
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Jul 16, 2021 15:32
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On the other hand Dagda is a cool skeleton and most of your friends are jerks that turn on you in a second
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Jul 16, 2021 15:35
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Imo you need more than just a semi-exposed skull to be a cool skeleton
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Jul 16, 2021 15:47
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Neurion posted:Every time I try to go the Anarchy route I just can't do it. I was streaming the game to one of my friends and savestated at the final choice just to see what that was about. We got gut-punched pretty hard by that. I find it helps if you pick the less cooperative options during the main game. It is kinda hard to murder everybody if you've been playing buddy-buddy with them, but after a whole game of the other characters reacting to your every choice with "haha that's cute, we're doing the other thing", it doesn't feel all that bad any more.
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Jul 16, 2021 15:53
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Yeah, my second Apoc playthrough I generally played as a grump-rear end and it made the experience of turning on my peeps all the more palatable. Also, it could be worse: Nothing made me feel as bad in Apocalypse as the post-White Forest Boss in SMTIV if you don't go Neutral. I'm sorry, Isabeau. 
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Jul 16, 2021 16:21
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Wark Say posted:Yeah, my second Apoc playthrough I generally played as a grump-rear end and it made the experience of turning on my peeps all the more palatable. Her scarf was foreshadowing! 
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Jul 16, 2021 16:39
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hatty posted:On the other hand Dagda is a cool skeleton and most of your friends are jerks that turn on you in a second How dare they object to being killed?
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If you can’t solemnly accept the need to destroy all of creation so that I can recreate it to be a better place you ain’t no friend of mine.
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Jul 16, 2021 16:56
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I wonder if SMT will ever do a 'back to basics' SMT. 6 slots! Human party members! Magnetite! etc etc obviously while not completely abandoning the new ideas like press turns and demons being able to level up and so forth
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Jul 16, 2021 17:07
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Yeah, it's called devil survivor 3. It's real and it's my friend
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Jul 16, 2021 17:13
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I will finish whatever this new(last?) dungeon is later. I feel like the games done at this point but it just wants to wrap up YVYH as a big bonus. Also it's weird it's introducing flynn mechanics at this point.
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Jul 16, 2021 17:45
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Junpei posted:I wonder if SMT will ever do a 'back to basics' SMT. 6 slots! Human party members! Magnetite! etc etc 4 kinda felt like it was trying to go for that kinda idea?
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Wark Say posted:Yeah, my second Apoc playthrough I generally played as a grump-rear end and it made the experience of turning on my peeps all the more palatable. What sucks is how Flynn is so far gone into his chosen path that you don't even get any sympathetic dialogue choices during the fight. In fact the most optimal options that buff you are the ones that are the most needlessly cruel. It also helps that they really twist the knife in your heart with that battle theme. Still one of my favorite tracks from that game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMSmi8ZOSno YoshiOfYellow fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Jul 16, 2021 |
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Got through Matador. Still took a multiple attempts so I could see what I needed to deal with, and a little grinding to put more meat on my team. I think Minotaur in 4 was a larger difficulty spike, but I bet I'd be pissed if I hadn't just played that and didn't know to go look for a nearby summon bro to negate/absorb at least one of his attacks.
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Regarding SMT4A's Anarchy route, I also did a second run always picking the most dickish options and was kinda disappointed this route looks like an afterthought. There are hardly any reactions to your choices, I refused to shake anyone's hand, chose to attack every time a boss took a partner hostage, called Asahi a burden and told her she was useless when she was at her lowest and everyone still keeps telling you how cool and reliable you are. I was glad when you kill Isabeau she tells you she had hated you from the moment you met if you refused to help the injured citizens, I believe it's the only time the game acknowledges you have been acting like a dick that isn't immediately after a dialogue choice. Dagda is also probably one of the worst "route ambassadors" in the series, of all the games he chose to go with the "gently caress friendship" in the one with the absolutely best partner system that'll constantly save your bacon, specially with the full assist gauge thing that cancels the enemy's turn + uses any available support skills they have + causes lot of damage. That time the hunters want to use you as a scapegoat for freeing the Divine Powers was a good one to promote his stance but I feel they didn't make the most of it. Showing him bickering with his mom doesn't exactly help either. Nanashi's evil-sounding "Dagda..." when you open the menu once you lock yourself into this route is hilarious, though.
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Junpei posted:I wonder if SMT will ever do a 'back to basics' SMT. 6 slots! Human party members! etc etc Junpei posted:Magnetite!   In all seriousness, though, Strange Journey was sorta like that and, while I don't dislike the game, I don't often get the itch to replay it as much as I do the SNES duology.
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Don't know if this was shared earlier, but it looks like we're back to using Defense. https://twitter.com/megaten_atlus/status/1414509841943437313
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WrightOfWay posted:Isabeau is straight up better than Asahi until Asahi gets Cheer and is pretty comparable in usefulness after. Navarre is also good but the other party members are pretty situational at best. Asahi has a niche in being the only party member who can heal herself but yeah you're mostly right
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Just got to a very important part I feel in smt IV and welp the fact that I feel like I’m stuck on the law route after that freaking bombshell of red pill origins because I don’t want to act like an rear end in a top hat to people is gonna piss me off. Oh you don’t want to kill people in the tournament qualifiers, well you must obviously want to harvest them for the greater good. If I have to go down that path when I don’t want to I’m gonna be super salty
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