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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:They make IDE to SATA adapters for <$10USD if you really want to load up those 3.5" discs... This is a 5.25" drive though! And now that I think about it I believe I also stopped connecting it to power because it would make some kind of noise. e: It's in a closet somewhere but I think it's this one, that light looks familiar 
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VelociBacon posted:This is a 5.25" drive though! And now that I think about it I believe I also stopped connecting it to power because it would make some kind of noise. stop it i need to call a doctor...  Jokes aside, no idea if any media can survive ~40 years on an actually floppy, floppy disc, but you could find out... 
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:stop it i need to call a doctor... I don't have any anymore but I did see them at my mom's place when I was visiting. They're all the games you used to get at the checkout counter of what I thought was Egghead but I'm Canadian and it doesn't look like that store came up here. Maybe I'm thinking of something else but yeah.
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One thing that's nice they make for 5.25 bays is 2.5 drive bay adapters, they have a bunch and usually they fit up to six drives. Storage has gotten cheap enough that if you wanted to make a mini-nas and happen to have a case w/ an extra bay or two, they're great for that
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How does this prebuilt look? I know it doesn’t come with an SSD, but I have an SSD already form my current desktop that I could add: https://deals.dell.com/en-us/productdetail/9pv7
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:How does this prebuilt look? I know it doesn’t come with an SSD, but I have an SSD already form my current desktop that I could add: Be aware with Dell prebuilts that they use a load of proprietary non-standard parts. So there's no guarantee that you will actually be able to put that SSD into that extremely custom case. Gamers Nexus have a review of the Aurora coming up fairly soon so if you can wait I'd wait and see what the actual inside of that thing looks like (but in their pre-review bits they've already referred to it as a hotbox so it's probably not great). The specs are alright though, even if a gaming focused prebuilt not coming with an SSD is laughable in 2021.
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ideal for high framerate 1080p, yeah, assuming the cooling is adequate which with a dell is far from a lock.
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:How does this prebuilt look? I know it doesn’t come with an SSD, but I have an SSD already form my current desktop that I could add: It probably won't come in time to help you decide, but Gamers Nexus will be reviewing one of these Alienware R10 models soon. It sounds like it's a stinker, especially on the thermal side of things. At least the discounted price is half-decent for those parts, so maybe you can salvage it by transplanting everything into a decent enclosure that won't cook your new PC. But dell has used unique form factors before with even simpler chasis designs, so who knows what ungodly things they put into these alienware machines.
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They've also reviewed Dell OEM graphics cards that are terrible (though their 3090 is apparently excellent), so it's not even a guarantee that the 3060 is going to be worth transplanting.
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To be clear though, that WOULD be a solid price for the parts. That's likely less than what you'd pay to build your own computer even assuming you could get a graphics card at MSRP (though I bet the areas where Dell cut corners will be very obvious). I just have my doubts that you'll be able to run those parts in that case at full effectiveness, and I also have my doubts that you'll be able to easily move them to a better case.
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fun video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh1vuugd9zw
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:How does this prebuilt look? I know it doesn’t come with an SSD, but I have an SSD already form my current desktop that I could add: To add to the hypothetical discussion, the parts worth taking out of that (CPU, GPU, RAM and HDD) would run you around $730 at RRP. If you bought it and found the internals are too proprietary to let you install an SSD, or the performance was lacking, it would take you buying some non-poo poo parts such as in this list I quickly put together for another ~$330 to unfuck it.
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VelociBacon posted:I don't have any anymore but I did see them at my mom's place when I was visiting. They're all the games you used to get at the checkout counter of what I thought was Egghead but I'm Canadian and it doesn't look like that store came up here. Maybe I'm thinking of something else but yeah. I remember at least one Egghead from the year I spent in Vancouver in the 90s, so I think you’re likely right there. It looks like someone mentioned that in the Wikipedia discussion section too!
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So from the discussion, I'm not getting a nice AMD CPU And a 3070 for my 1500$ish price point and I should just pull the trigger on the gaming laptop?
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Well that’s unfortunate. My current PC is pretty old, the SSD is the only thing potentially worth saving. So the idea of a cheap, pre built PC with current parts was appealing, they wouldn’t even need to be THAT good to be a massive upgrade over what I have now.
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Waroduce posted:So from the discussion, I'm not getting a nice AMD CPU And a 3070 for my 1500$ish price point and I should just pull the trigger on the gaming laptop? I mean, you can if you can find parts. Finding parts is really the problem.
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What's a decent bracket I can buy to support a 3080? Ordered a computer from cyberpower in April and it finally arrived, right as supply started improving, but whatever I guess. They put an EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra in it, and it has the most massive cooler I've ever seen on a video card. When I took the foam out, it sagged a little, so I want to put some support under it.
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sailormoon posted:Are there any prebuilts with a top end Ryzen and NVIDIA card? Falcon Northwest has everything, including an Nvidia founders edition 3080ti and Ryzen 9 5950X
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RVT posted:What's a decent bracket I can buy to support a 3080? Ordered a computer from cyberpower in April and it finally arrived, right as supply started improving, but whatever I guess. They put an EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra in it, and it has the most massive cooler I've ever seen on a video card. When I took the foam out, it sagged a little, so I want to put some support under it. i think i used a plastic bottlecap that happened to be the right size...
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RVT posted:What's a decent bracket I can buy to support a 3080? Ordered a computer from cyberpower in April and it finally arrived, right as supply started improving, but whatever I guess. They put an EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra in it, and it has the most massive cooler I've ever seen on a video card. When I took the foam out, it sagged a little, so I want to put some support under it. Isn’t that a double-slot card? Do the screws on the back panel not hold it in place?
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Waroduce posted:So from the discussion, I'm not getting a nice AMD CPU And a 3070 for my 1500$ish price point and I should just pull the trigger on the gaming laptop? Not a dig at you, but this post is actually hilarious when you consider the gaming laptop thread has recently come to the opposite conclusion, that gaming laptops are overpriced right now (high demand for those too) and you should just get a desktop gaming pc if what you care about most is the price to performance ratio. The reality is that both markets are hosed and neither a gaming laptop nor a gaming pc are good buys right now. edit: PRADA SLUT posted:Falcon Northwest has everything, including an Nvidia founders edition 3080ti and Ryzen 9 5950X I know Falcon Northwest has been a meme for decades, but jesus christ their 5800x/3070 model starts at $3721. Oh, and that's with DDR-3200. Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Jul 15, 2021 |
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Isn’t that a double-slot card? Do the screws on the back panel not hold it in place? It is, but I pulled the foam out and it immediately started sagging and just looks really heavy. I guess I don't know how much sag is too much. I've never had an expensive/large video card before, I think the last two were a ATI 5770 and then my 1060, so GPU sag is a new thing for me. CoolCab posted:i think i used a plastic bottlecap that happened to be the right size... What now?
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RVT posted:What's a decent bracket I can buy to support a 3080? Ordered a computer from cyberpower in April and it finally arrived, right as supply started improving, but whatever I guess. They put an EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra in it, and it has the most massive cooler I've ever seen on a video card. When I took the foam out, it sagged a little, so I want to put some support under it. https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Maste...ps%2C175&sr=8-6 I bought this for my 3070 ti. It works well and the RGB isn't obnoxious. The mounting holes are pretty tight so it stays in place. https://www.amazon.com/YATENG-Graph...ps%2C175&sr=8-3 I was looking at this support but it didn't work with how my cables were routed in my case.
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CoolCab posted:i think i used a plastic bottlecap that happened to be the right size... I had a mini-golf pencil holding mine up several years ago. It was the perfect height and the tower was put in a spot it was impossible to bump for about six years. No problems at all.
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RVT posted:It is, but I pulled the foam out and it immediately started sagging and just looks really heavy. I guess I don't know how much sag is too much. I've never had an expensive/large video card before, I think the last two were a ATI 5770 and then my 1060, so GPU sag is a new thing for me. You can use anything non conductive. Anything plastic is good for the most part. I’ve seen plenty of little lego men be used. If you don’t care about looks you could even get a wooden dowel and cut to size.
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Do I still need to flash a new B550 board before it'll work with the newest CPU gen or do they ship them with updated BIOSs these days? Specifically, the board is a Gigabyte Aorus Elite V2.
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At this point it should have an up to date bios, if not you at least know what to do if it doesn't work.
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 Just a note for any Scandigoons shopping for computer parts on CDON: The site is a marketplace (like Amazon or Newegg unless fulfilled by the actual site), and shipping is a bit of a bingo depending on who the actual seller is. I just got a notification that my order arrived somewhere, but who knows where, and whether PostNord or Bring delievered it? 
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Not a dig at you, but this post is actually hilarious when you consider the gaming laptop thread has recently come to the opposite conclusion, that gaming laptops are overpriced right now (high demand for those too) and you should just get a desktop gaming pc if what you care about most is the price to performance ratio. Yeah, the laptop thread discussion sent me here. I need a device now unfortunately since my personal is on its last legs. The laptop I was eyeballinng has a Ryzen 9 which is pretty sexy and a 3070 at right around 1800$ but just tracking this conversation I guess the PC pre-built would be nice to get in on and than part upgrade in the future. Are there any major concerns with this pre-built? The only thing I hit on was the processor being a bit older https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberp...p?skuId=6452133 Also this probably a stupid question but i was expecting an ethernet port to be explicitly listed but is that just assumed now
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Waroduce posted:
buh? that processor is extremely new, it's comparable to the GPU actually e: and yeah it will have ethernet for sure via the network card
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Waroduce posted:Yeah, the laptop thread discussion sent me here. I need a device now unfortunately since my personal is on its last legs. The laptop I was eyeballinng has a Ryzen 9 which is pretty sexy and a 3070 at right around 1800$ but just tracking this conversation I guess the PC pre-built would be nice to get in on and than part upgrade in the future. That CPU is pretty much top-of-the-line new new, don't worry about it. The front fans that suck air in from a solid pane of glass (there are no vents on either side either??) are hilarious, though
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Waroduce posted:Yeah, the laptop thread discussion sent me here. I need a device now unfortunately since my personal is on its last legs. The laptop I was eyeballinng has a Ryzen 9 which is pretty sexy and a 3070 at right around 1800$ but just tracking this conversation I guess the PC pre-built would be nice to get in on and than part upgrade in the future. Also this probably a stupid question but i was expecting an ethernet port to be explicitly listed but is that just assumed now [/quote] I don’t know what a Ryzen 9 is. But I do know that CPU is the newest available and very good in that prebuilt. I also bet that prebuilt is going to loving cook itself.
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CoolCab posted:e: and yeah it will have ethernet for sure via the network card I spent like  to upgrade my mobo to the version with Ethernet, wireless, and Bluetooth all built in. It was worth way more than that to both save USB 3 ports and cable management/power with the external cables of all kinds. Fake edit: can’t remember what model on desktop but I know it’s for Intel based chips and upgradable in the future.
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Waroduce posted:Yeah, the laptop thread discussion sent me here. I need a device now unfortunately since my personal is on its last legs. The laptop I was eyeballinng has a Ryzen 9 which is pretty sexy and a 3070 at right around 1800$ but just tracking this conversation I guess the PC pre-built would be nice to get in on and than part upgrade in the future. Just for clarification, laptop parts and PC parts are not equivalent so a laptop 3070 will perform nowhere near as well as a fullsize 3070 in a PC, ditto the CPU, because if you had the same TDP parts in that small of a frame it would likely set on fire. So the 'Ryzen 9' in whatever laptop you're looking at will absolutely perform worse than the 5800x in a full size PC. Also it's better to step away from 'Ryzen or Intel 5/7/9' terminology as that tells you basically gently caress all about the component. For Ryzens at least, Ryzen 9 could mean a Ryzen 3900, a 3950, a 4900H, a 5900, a 5900X, a 5950X, it's a clusterfuck. Generally the number denotes the number of cores but that's not always consistent either. 'Ryzen 5' usally means 6 cores but has meant 4 cores in mobile versions, 'Ryzen 7' usually means 8 but has meant 4 cores in mobile CPUs, and 'Ryzen 9' can mean 8, 12, or 16. Butterfly Valley fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Jul 16, 2021 |
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Butterfly Valley posted:Just for clarification, laptop parts and PC parts are not equivalent so a laptop 3070 will perform nowhere near as well as a fullsize 3070 in a PC, ditto the CPU, because if you had the same TDP parts in that small of a frame it would likely set on fire. So the 'Ryzen 9' in whatever laptop you're looking at will absolutely perform worse than the 5800x in a full size PC. Lmao thank you for this. If I was going to buy that and wanted to fix the fan/cooling issue how would I go about doing that? Would one need to change the whole case out or can I like....idk remove the glass part or just stick an office fan infront of it? I appreciate the guidance guys sorry for the simple questions.
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Waroduce posted:Lmao thank you for this. questions are good. You’d need to basically replace the whole case. I don’t know that it’s worth it. I can’t speak to this unit and don’t have the time to vet it properly, but this seems fairly reasonable with decent cooling. 3000mhz ram isnt ideal, but totally workable and easily upgradable later. Check this out on @Newegg: Skytech Chronos Gaming PC Desktop AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core 3.60GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8GB, 16GB DDR4 3000, 1TB NVMe Gen 4, 750W Gold PSU, 240MM AIO, 11AC WiFi, Windows 10 Home 64-bit https://www.newegg.com/skytech-st-c...-149-_-07162021 I’d prefer someone else vet it before you buy it.
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Pilfered Pallbearers posted:questions are good. oooo thats nice! ill uy this late est or tomorrow if no one cautions me in the interim
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Waroduce posted:oooo thats nice! ill uy this late est or tomorrow if no one cautions me in the interim While the case has more airflow and the parts are all decent, the 3700X is strictly worse than the 5800X. It won't make much of a difference for purely gaming at higher resolutions, mind. If you wanted the project, you could transplant all the parts from the cyberpower pc into a better airflow case, but it would require a decent amount of work and research if you don't know what you're doing already.
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Pilfered Pallbearers posted:The build above is good. Looking at suggestions and also seeing how loving hard and depressing it is to find anything Geforce 30XX right now, I found the following pre-built on special for 2200$ CAD instead of 2600$ with a 3070 but it's an ABS https://www.newegg.ca/abs-ali454/p/N82E16883360038 Is this thing going to catch on fire?
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Cyberdud posted:Looking at suggestions and also seeing how loving hard and depressing it is to find anything Geforce 30XX right now, I found the following pre-built on special for 2200$ CAD instead of 2600$ with a 3070 but it's an ABS No, that looks rather well ventilated, assuming it ships in that fan/cooler config. Top-mounted AIO, three front intake fans with a mesh front panel, and a rear exhaust. The CPU's gonna run cool, that's for sure. Reviews say it doesn't come with XMP enabled in the bios (you really should do this), the pre-installed apps use a lot of CPU, and it looks like you're going to want to give the machine a thorough inspection to make sure everything inside is plugged in correctly before turning it on, but otherwise I don't see any glaring red flags. Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Jul 16, 2021 |
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