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Saoshyant: Oct 26, 2010

I'm going to reserve the Gabe Boy and you can't stop me!

# ? Jul 16, 2021 16:15

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# ? May 30, 2024 07:54

repiv: Aug 13, 2009

Saoshyant posted:

I'm going to reserve the Gabe Boy and you can't stop me!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhyuPr9ULqI

# ? Jul 16, 2021 16:16

Happy Noodle Boy: Jul 3, 2002

Antigravitas posted:

XCOM2 with mods, no less.

Yeah, specifically that. If I could live without mods I�d consider the iOS port but I gotta have mods to have all that QoL poo poo they add

# ? Jul 16, 2021 16:19

Doctor_Fruitbat: Jun 2, 2013

It's obviously the N-Gabe.

# ? Jul 16, 2021 16:21

Hwurmp: May 20, 2005

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

It's obviously the N-Gabe.

gently caress

# ? Jul 16, 2021 16:23

repiv: Aug 13, 2009

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

It's obviously the N-Gabe.

finally, sidetalking for horses

# ? Jul 16, 2021 16:23

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

It's the Tiger Gabe.com. Topic Locked

# ? Jul 16, 2021 16:24

funkmeister: Feb 20, 2010; About your father. If it's any help, he's in the ground now. Sure, it's bad news for him. But on the other hand, it's party time for all those little worms.

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

It's obviously the N-Gabe.

TITLE

# ? Jul 16, 2021 16:38

MMF Freeway: Sep 15, 2010; Later!

N-Gabe does what Miyamoton't

# ? Jul 16, 2021 16:41

Khanstant: Apr 5, 2007

punk rebel ecks posted:

In the Switch's defense it has a decent enough battery life.

No, it doesn't and the Deck is a half hour worse than the Switch while playing demanding games. The whole history of portable consoles seems to be a long line of battery life regression. Gameboy could get you well over a full day of play, GBA already degrades to a mere 10-12 hours, ds a bit less, the 3ds you basically got like 4 hours, and the Switch barely lasts a bit over 2 hours sometimes.

In some ways I think gb/gba maybe ds if you got jncos, were the last actual portable consoles, something you could jam in a pocket and be good for your travels, worst case scenario buy some new batteries on the go. The Gamecube was just a built in-screen and lovely battery away from being a modern day "portable" console.

# ? Jul 16, 2021 16:53

Scalding Coffee: Jun 26, 2006; You're already dead

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

It's obviously the N-Gabe.

Make it so.

# ? Jul 16, 2021 16:54

Bardeh: Dec 2, 2004; Fun Shoe

whos preordering a Gabestation in an hour?

# ? Jul 16, 2021 17:00

Kibayasu: Mar 28, 2010

I�m ordering a GabeNES right now.

# ? Jul 16, 2021 17:01

Happy Noodle Boy: Jul 3, 2002

I think I might pre-order the Switch Pro

# ? Jul 16, 2021 17:04

Boba Pearl: Dec 27, 2019; by Athanatos

I actually have a question about joystick positions, what's actually the difference? I've only ever used the xbox version, but how does having the dpad under your thumb instead of the thumbstick change things? Isn't it more awkward to be stretching your thumb left wards instead of upwards? Or is it such a minute thing it never comes up and it's just an internet argument like when people freak out about which way to hang the tp, whether you tip for takeout you pick up or circumcisions or w/e.

Is there one that is not almost 80$?

# ? Jul 16, 2021 17:05

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

Boba Pearl posted:

I actually have a question about joystick positions, what's actually the difference? I've only ever used the xbox version, but how does having the dpad under your thumb instead of the thumbstick change things? Isn't it more awkward to be stretching your thumb left wards instead of upwards? Or is it such a minute thing it never comes up and it's just an internet argument like when people freak out about which way to hang the tp, whether you tip for takeout you pick up or circumcisions or w/e.

I just think the symmetrical joystick layout is more comfortable and feels better when playing games that use both sticks.

# ? Jul 16, 2021 17:06

Bardeh: Dec 2, 2004; Fun Shoe

If the weaker Aya Neo is already doing this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhvrmNE5yng

Is there a chance the Deck will be able to do BotW2 at 60fps on Yuzu when it comes out?

# ? Jul 16, 2021 17:06

repiv: Aug 13, 2009

I dunno about Yuzu (it's still fairly demanding I think) but I wouldn't be at all surprised if the gabestation can play the Wii U version of BOTW at 60fps in CEMU

# ? Jul 16, 2021 17:08

Instruction Manuel: May 15, 2007; Yes, it is what it looks like!

Khanstant posted:

No, it doesn't and the Deck is a half hour worse than the Switch while playing demanding games. The whole history of portable consoles seems to be a long line of battery life regression. Gameboy could get you well over a full day of play, GBA already degrades to a mere 10-12 hours, ds a bit less, the 3ds you basically got like 4 hours, and the Switch barely lasts a bit over 2 hours sometimes.

In some ways I think gb/gba maybe ds if you got jncos, were the last actual portable consoles, something you could jam in a pocket and be good for your travels, worst case scenario buy some new batteries on the go. The Gamecube was just a built in-screen and lovely battery away from being a modern day "portable" console.

Graphics have been scaling up while battery life goes down :thunk:

# ? Jul 16, 2021 17:12

Peaceful Anarchy: Sep 18, 2005; sXe
I am the math man.

Wamdoodle posted:

Graphics have been scaling up while battery life goes down

Yet, this isn't a problem with laptops, which have much better battery life now than a decade ago, which in turn had much better battery life than 2 decades ago, all while being significantly more powerful.

# ? Jul 16, 2021 17:18

punk rebel ecks: Dec 11, 2010; A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

Khanstant posted:

No, it doesn't and the Deck is a half hour worse than the Switch while playing demanding games. The whole history of portable consoles seems to be a long line of battery life regression. Gameboy could get you well over a full day of play, GBA already degrades to a mere 10-12 hours, ds a bit less, the 3ds you basically got like 4 hours, and the Switch barely lasts a bit over 2 hours sometimes.

In some ways I think gb/gba maybe ds if you got jncos, were the last actual portable consoles, something you could jam in a pocket and be good for your travels, worst case scenario buy some new batteries on the go. The Gamecube was just a built in-screen and lovely battery away from being a modern day "portable" console.

The Switch's battery life is typical 3 to 6 hours depending on which game you play. That obviously isn't enough to never have to worry about charging it, but it is long enough to get you through an average commute.

There is a lot of context why they get away with shorter and shorter battery life:

While computer technology has improved considerably over the decades, battery technology has not.
The Gameboy line didn't use a rechargeable battery (at least not by default) so the system holding a charge for less than a full day would require costs to be out the wazoo. For reference if you wanted to beat BOTW on Switch but it used batteries as much as the GameGear, it would cost you over $80 in batteries to get through the game!
Due to us living in a world where mobile phones are the lifeblood of daily life, charge outlets are virtually everywhere. Airplanes, cars, trains, etc. So finding a place to charge your device or use your device while charged is FAR less if a hassle than twenty years ago.

# ? Jul 16, 2021 17:18

Stux: Nov 17, 2006

Pablo Nergigante posted:

I just think the symmetrical joystick layout is more comfortable and feels better when playing games that use both sticks.

this. also allows you the option to hit dpad mayhaps with the index finger foro a quick tap and so forth. truly the best layout, objectively speaking.

# ? Jul 16, 2021 17:20

CharlestheHammer: Jun 26, 2011; YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Peaceful Anarchy posted:

Yet, this isn't a problem with laptops, which have much better battery life now than a decade ago, which in turn had much better battery life than 2 decades ago, all while being significantly more powerful.

Comparing a laptop to a portable console is a bit insane. They have nothing in common

# ? Jul 16, 2021 17:22

Khanstant: Apr 5, 2007

punk rebel ecks posted:

[*] The Gameboy line didn't use a rechargeable battery (at least not by default) so the system holding a charge for less than a full day would require costs to be out the wazoo. For reference if you wanted to beat BOTW on Switch but it used batteries as much as the GameGear, it would cost you over $80 in batteries to get through the game!

Using GameGear battery drain rate here makes me think you're working for big Ion-Lithium

# ? Jul 16, 2021 17:23

repiv: Aug 13, 2009

portable gaming battery life has gone down because we went from expecting relatively simple games on portables to expecting full blown home console games just with downgraded graphics

if you play the modern equivalent of gameboy games, lightweight indie titles, you can still get 8-9 hours out of a red box switch

# ? Jul 16, 2021 17:24

Gahmah: Nov 4, 2009

CharlestheHammer posted:

Comparing a laptop to a portable console is a bit insane. They have nothing in common

I did some thinking about this morning and it seems like the steam deck might actually be targetting people with chromebooks or other similar browsing/email/word processing laptop users who are hungry for games but don't want to get a second computer or console & tv

# ? Jul 16, 2021 17:32

MarcusSA: Sep 23, 2007

Bardeh posted:

If the weaker Aya Neo is already doing this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhvrmNE5yng

Is there a chance the Deck will be able to do BotW2 at 60fps on Yuzu when it comes out?

Supposedly the Gabe Station is nearly 2x as powerful so I�m leaning towards yeah.

# ? Jul 16, 2021 17:37

Samopsa: Nov 9, 2009; Krijgt geen speciaal kerstdiner!

just hanging out on the couch/bed/yard/public transport and gaming without bothering others is good poo poo. Even a laptop is a bit of a hassle due to the size and peripherals.

# ? Jul 16, 2021 17:37

The 7th Guest: Dec 17, 2003

Bardeh posted:

If the weaker Aya Neo is already doing this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhvrmNE5yng

Is there a chance the Deck will be able to do BotW2 at 60fps on Yuzu when it comes out?

aw yea look at the sharp corners on that thing, love to make my palms hurt like gently caress after 15 minutes of playing

# ? Jul 16, 2021 17:38

AfricanBootyShine: Jan 9, 2006; Snake wins.

Yeah, I was planning on replacing my dead macbook with a new one. But one with enough ssd space/ram costs nearly 1400 bux. For the same price I could get the most expensive gabe boy and a used laptop...

# ? Jul 16, 2021 17:39

punk rebel ecks: Dec 11, 2010; A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

Peaceful Anarchy posted:

Yet, this isn't a problem with laptops, which have much better battery life now than a decade ago, which in turn had much better battery life than 2 decades ago, all while being significantly more powerful.

This...isn't true?

Top of the line gaming laptops like Alienware 51m or Acer Triton offer a pittance amount of use uncharged when gaming (desktop use isn't comparable due to changes in CPU technology).

There are other "gaming laptops" that offer decent battery life that is maybe around an hour or so more than the Switch but they use CPUs with a far lower power draw and batteries that take up much of the design space.

# ? Jul 16, 2021 17:40

Peaceful Anarchy: Sep 18, 2005; sXe
I am the math man.

CharlestheHammer posted:

Comparing a laptop to a portable console is a bit insane. They have nothing in common

The steam deck is literally a small factor laptop without a keyboard. They have a ton in common. The reason it doesn't have the battery life of a good laptop isn't that there aren't batteries that can do that for its power draw, it's that price point dictates choosing between better battery life or more power and apparently battery life is not the better selling point.

In any case, I was comparing the progression, laptops have gotten better at battery life because they decided it was a good selling point, and laptops today have much better graphics and somewhat better battery life than before. Portable gaming systems have much better graphics with worse battery life not as an inevitable consequence of better graphics but as a consequence of designer choice.

punk rebel ecks posted:

This...isn't true?

Top of the line gaming laptops like Alienware 51m or Acer Triton offer a pittance amount of use uncharged when gaming (desktop use isn't comparable due to changes in CPU technology).

There are other "gaming laptops" that offer decent battery life that is maybe around an hour or so more than the Switch but they use CPUs with a far lower power draw and batteries that take up much of the design space.

It's not true for "gaming" laptops because they're making the same power vs battery choices as portables. Because the audience for "gaming" laptops is people who want a portable gaming computer, not a laptop that plays games. It's true for non-gaming laptops which nowadays can play plenty of games at decent quality.

Peaceful Anarchy fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Jul 16, 2021

# ? Jul 16, 2021 17:40

DourCricket: Jan 15, 2021; Thanks Coupleofkooks

My gaming laptop only had like... 4~ hours tops of gaming time while on battery. It was also $1100.

Several years later it is down to more like 2 or 3.

# ? Jul 16, 2021 17:44

explosivo: May 23, 2004; Fueled by Satan

https://twitter.com/Darktide40K/status/1415687630667358208?s=20

I missed this from yesterday, but it's not a big surprise after not getting a date at that warhammer event a month or so ago.

# ? Jul 16, 2021 17:45

Punkinhead: Apr 2, 2015

Peaceful Anarchy posted:

It's not true for "gaming" laptops because they're making the same power vs battery choices as portables. Because the audience for "gaming" laptops is people who want a portable gaming computer, not a laptop that plays games. It's true for non-gaming laptops which nowadays can play plenty of games at decent quality.

You're comparing the video game playing handhelds with laptops that don't play video games? I can see why you're confused.

# ? Jul 16, 2021 17:47

I said come in!: Jun 22, 2004

explosivo posted:

https://twitter.com/Darktide40K/status/1415687630667358208?s=20

I missed this from yesterday, but it's not a big surprise after not getting a date at that warhammer event a month or so ago.

Not surprising, between no talk last month, and no gameplay footage since its original announcement, I wasn't confident this would be coming out this year.

# ? Jul 16, 2021 17:48

Peaceful Anarchy: Sep 18, 2005; sXe
I am the math man.

PinheadSlim posted:

You're comparing the video game playing handhelds with laptops that don't play video games? I can see why you're confused.

No I'm not comparing them, I'm making a parallel. I feel like I'm in a different conversation, so clearly there's something I'm not expressing correctly. I was responding to a post that was, essentially "obviously battery life is worse, graphics have gotten better" with, "it's not an obvious consequence, it's a design choice," and using laptops as an example of a portable computing system that chose to sacrifice a slice of power progression for better battery life.

I'm not saying the Switch/Steam Deck battery life is good or bad, or that the design choice is right or wrong. Simply that both could have better battery life if they wanted to. It's not a technical hurdle, it's choice of price/power/battery choose 2 and they chose price+power. Plenty of laptops choose price+battery or power+battery, and in the space of laptop prices it's possible to get a good mix of all three. Just because a laptop isn't a "gaming" laptop doesn't mean it can't play AAA games, it just makes the same kind of sacrifices steam deck does of lower resolution and/or graphical settings.

Those laptops that have the power similar to these gaming systems plus good battery life aren't super expensive, but they do cost more than $400, so I'm not criticizing the gaming systems for their choice.

Peaceful Anarchy fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Jul 16, 2021

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