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Bizarro Kanyon posted:According to family, the Supreme Court has ruled in some old case that “fraud vitiates everything” so therefore Biden is no longer allowed to be President, Harris is no longer VP, and Trump just gets to take over the spot.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Seems legit Rutherford Hayes and his fellow Republicans straight up stole the 1876 election from Samuel Tilden, and the election was never remedied. Looks like everything since then gets rolled back to when people debated whether to legalize Mardi Gras.
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Jul 17, 2021 02:19
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Kaal posted:Rutherford Hayes and his fellow Republicans straight up stole the 1876 election from Samuel Tilden, and the election was never remedied. Looks like everything since then gets rolled back to when people debated whether to legalize Mardi Gras. I would certainly love to revisit Reconstruction, let's get this done.
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Jul 17, 2021 02:47
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Kaal posted:Rutherford Hayes and his fellow Republicans straight up stole the 1876 election from Samuel Tilden, and the election was never remedied. Looks like everything since then gets rolled back to when people debated whether to legalize Mardi Gras. The compromise of 1877 is one of the most disastrous bits of  in the history of this nation. It caused the army to stop enforcing civil rights laws in the south and directly led to jim crow.
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Jul 17, 2021 03:56
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Yeah if I had to pick a "stop here" point for rolling back the lawbooks to before a certain president and the qualifications were that they couldn't be a president before 1800 I'd definitely have Hayes on my shortlist.
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Jul 17, 2021 06:37
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jeeves posted:Eh, nice to have backup plans of a 6v3 SCOTUS for paving the way for Less-Idiot-Trump(tm) that is DeSantis. I'm not sure Less-Idiot-Trump can win. DeSantis is a charisma-free damp suit that almost lost the governor's mansion to a Democrat for the first time in my life while Trump won the state handily both times. I think you need More-Idiot-Trump because that's where all the loud ignorant Boomer-charisma is
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Jul 17, 2021 06:44
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I'm inclined to agree. The dude DeSantis beat literally had his campaign implode because of an FBI sting that involved him being bribed with Hamilton tickets. I'm not sure anyone could have lost to that guy realistically speaking.
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Jul 17, 2021 15:50
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Some Guy TT posted:I'm inclined to agree. The dude DeSantis beat literally had his campaign implode because of an FBI sting that involved him being bribed with Hamilton tickets. I'm not sure anyone could have lost to that guy realistically speaking. Lmao I forgot about that scandal. His post election arc was definitely something else, too
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Jul 17, 2021 16:37
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You don't need more-or-less Trump, you're just gonna get Trump again when he runs in 2024. He is so lionized by the GOP base at this point that I don't think anybody on the right has a legit shot against him if and when he decides to run for a second term.
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Jul 17, 2021 17:54
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Sydin posted:You don't need more-or-less Trump, you're just gonna get Trump again when he runs in 2024. He is so lionized by the GOP base at this point that I don't think anybody on the right has a legit shot against him if and when he decides to run for a second term. I don't expect him to run, but only because I expect his health won't let him (if he's even still alive).
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Jul 17, 2021 18:05
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Sodomy Hussein posted:I would certainly love to revisit Deconstruction, let's get this done. 
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Jul 17, 2021 18:28
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Mr. Nice! posted:The compromise of 1877 is one of the most disastrous bits of I thought it was just poor taste when Ted Cruz suggested this on the floor of the senate the morning of 1/6, but not I think he was just showing his hand.
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Jul 17, 2021 18:47
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Jul 17, 2021 19:22
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lol at conservatives getting reamed by their own uptight morality speech codes Would be incredibly funny if this resulted in all obscenity laws getting overturned
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Jul 17, 2021 20:37
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VitalSigns posted:21 for an FFL? Sounds unconstitutional. Blue Footed Booby posted:For what it's worth, you still have to be 21 to get an Federal Firearms License, which is required to own an actual machine gun. At this point I wouldn't be that surprised if this got struck down too, but it is currently the case. The reason machine guns aren't used in crimes today is the same reason Imperiale Montecarlos and Holland & Hollands are basically never used in crimes: the sort of person who can drop $10,000+ on a gun isn't sticking up 7-11s. Making guns financially inaccessible to the poor is certainly a very effective means of reducing gun crime, but most people who favor it generally don't say so out loud. Even before the closure of the MG registry and artificial scarcity, legally owned machine guns were rarely used in crimes because, again, the sort of person who will fill out a bunch of paperwork and get fingerprinted and wait for months for their tax stamp to clear isn't the sort of person who does street crimes. Evil Fluffy posted:Nonsense, the good people at Gun Shills and Lobbyists Inc told me that gun control doesn't work. If it did then why is there such rampant gun violence in countries with it and not here in the US? Checkmate, liburls.
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Jul 17, 2021 22:14
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Dead Reckoning posted:Totally agree. I think the court got it right that there is no valid government interest in gating citizens' rights to some arbitrary age after majority. lol yeah what could be more arbitrary than trying to stop people who are much more likely to commit gun violence from getting guns
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Jul 18, 2021 01:52
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Grip it and rip it posted:lol yeah what could be more arbitrary than trying to stop people who are much more likely to commit gun violence from getting guns
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Jul 18, 2021 02:01
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ilkhan posted:That's a line of reasoning (preemptively banning users based on characteristics) you really don't want to go down. we have a history of this very thing as a matter of fact we're still doing it to people, and it involves everything up to and including civil rights
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Jul 18, 2021 02:57
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ilkhan posted:That's a line of reasoning (preemptively banning users based on characteristics) you really don't want to go down. a different angle: this is what licensure looks like
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Jul 18, 2021 02:57
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hand machine guns out at all the entrances to high schools to ensure all the kids are exercising their constitutional rights
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VitalSigns posted:hand machine guns out at all the entrances to high schools to ensure all the kids are exercising their constitutional rights arm the unhoused seeing as they're always on patrol
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Jul 18, 2021 04:53
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Dead Reckoning posted:Totally agree. I think the court got it right that there is no valid government interest in gating citizens' rights to some arbitrary age after majority. Why is the age to buy alcohol still 21? Yes, I know the "real reason" is that the feds denied Interstate highway funding to every state that didn't play ball on this. It's a de facto federal ban on alcohol sales to people under 21. Why is this okay?
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Jul 18, 2021 08:06
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skaboomizzy posted:Why is the age to buy alcohol still 21? alcohol damages a developing mind more than a bullet, obviously
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Jul 18, 2021 08:12
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There have been multiple studies that have shown that heavy underage drinking can be directly tied to issues with mental development and memory retention. Here's the top google result for such studies, and there are plenty more where that came from. Granted it is completely asinine that you're allowed to handle a firearm before you're allowed to drink, but the 21 year old drinking age limit is actually grounded in medical science.
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Jul 18, 2021 08:20
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skaboomizzy posted:Why is the age to buy alcohol still 21? I assume it's considered OK because there's no actual constitutional right to drink alcohol (not even in the 21st Amendment; it just repeals the general ban on alcohol).
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Jul 18, 2021 15:58
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Interesting because the constitution doesn't define an 'age of majority' anywhere. The only mention of age is that voting rights can't be denied to anyone at least 18 on account of age, and a bunch of restrictions on how old you have to be to qualify for various political offices (all higher than 18).
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Jul 18, 2021 16:30
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ilkhan posted:That's a line of reasoning (preemptively banning users based on characteristics) you really don't want to go down. Age restrictions are already a prevalent aspect of American law so Im not sure what you are getting at Sydin posted:There have been multiple studies that have shown that heavy underage drinking can be directly tied to issues with mental development and memory retention. Here's the top google result for such studies, and there are plenty more where that came from. there is plenty of science demonstrating how stupid and reckless 18 year olds are - I think those eame studies could be effectively brought to bear here
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When last I checked (which is several years ago now) there was evidence supporting development, and thus increased risk of harm through alcohol exposure, up to an average age of around 24.
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Dead Reckoning posted:I have some very bad news regarding Mexico and Brazil and Venezuela's gun laws and murder rates. There isn't any correlation between strictness of gun laws and murder rates. In this country there's a direct correlation between level of gun ownership and gun violence on a county level. Not that any of this matter thanks to recent Supreme Court decisions.
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Dead Reckoning posted:I have some very bad news regarding Mexico and Brazil and Venezuela's gun laws and murder rates. There isn't any correlation between strictness of gun laws and murder rates. Might want to spend some time thinking about Simpson's Paradox and causality.
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Stickman posted:Might want to spend some time thinking about Simpson's Paradox and causality. Clearly gun laws not working in countries the US has repeatedly destabilized for decades means gun control can't work. Please ignore all of the first world nations with gun control and whose combined gun violence is a fraction of what the US sees.
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Sydin posted:Granted it is completely asinine that you're allowed to handle a firearm before you're allowed to drink, Groovelord Neato posted:In this country there's a direct correlation between level of gun ownership and gun violence on a county level. Not that any of this matter thanks to recent Supreme Court decisions. Evil Fluffy posted:Clearly gun laws not working in countries the US has repeatedly destabilized for decades means gun control can't work. Please ignore all of the first world nations with gun control and whose combined gun violence is a fraction of what the US sees.
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Dead Reckoning posted:If you have to confine your analysis of gun control only to wealthy, developed countries with strong state institutions in order to capture successes, perhaps those qualities have more to do with reduction in murder rates than their gun laws. So you're saying the US should be compared to 3rd world and developing nations instead? Instead we should only look at countries that are in varying states of crisis and lawlessness to see whether or not gun control works, while ignoring everything else? Just  at the lengths you're going to not acknowledge that gun control works and trying to argue against it by pointing to countries heavily damaged by outside influences and in at least two of your examples, foreign-backed coups (successful or otherwise) where the rule of law in general has broken down across the board.
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Jul 20, 2021 04:39
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Dead Reckoning posted:There's only a correlation if you lump suicides with a firearm into "gun violence" to obfuscate the fact that you're not talking about interpersonal violence the way most people think you are. The only obfuscation here is pretending that suicides somehow don't count as "gun violence," I would like for people not to use guns to kill other people or themselves, please and thank you.
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Jul 20, 2021 04:50
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If its not gang affiliated its not gun violence. Those are mental health crisis' you see...
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Evil Fluffy posted:So you're saying the US should be compared to 3rd world and developing nations instead? Instead we should only look at countries that are in varying states of crisis and lawlessness to see whether or not gun control works, while ignoring everything else? To be fair america has way more in common with third world countries then first
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quote:Bopp argued IU's policies for unvaccinated individuals, which includes continued mask wearing and mitigation testing, infringes on their religious freedom by imposing additional measures upon students due to their beliefs. I must have missed the part of the bible where Jesus said wearing a mask + spitting into small tubes once every 2 weeks was a sin.
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I had to get some vaccines when I went to college because they weren't part of the schedule when I was a baby/child. These people are so loving stupid.
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