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Asphyxious
Jun 25, 2012

I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life.

Hedningen posted:

That’s surprisingly relevant for my Cawdor, so good to know! I’ll make sure to check with this group - it’s folks I haven’t interacted with much at my LGS which is generally pretty good about being non-groggy, but I figure I can also talk like a human person and get clarification on these things beforehand.

I think signups have been, like, 75% Delaque and Van Saar, and so I’m making sure I know my terrain and LOS rules well.

Yaktribe’s gang roster creator has been super useful, too.

Yaktribe is great, I play Cawdor too! Cawdor are *fantastic* with the new rules, you’ll have a lot of fun!

Everyone going Van Saar is a bit of a worry, none of us play hyper competitively so there’s no van Saar in our campaign at all lol.

If you’re interested in checking out a bunch of photos from our campaign(s) (it’s being run over two states, side by side) then check out Necrochunder on Instagram, everyone’s put a lot of effort into the gangs and terrain so it makes for good photos :)

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Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Genghis Cohen posted:

This is quite interesting stuff that I never got serious enough about X Wing to really understand. But my point was actually, if you are going to have arbitrary range/distance increments, just label them with numbers. Range 1, Range 2 etc. That seems better for communication than Range circle, range pentagon etc. The latter seems super inconvenient to describe in writing and even clunky to talk about.

FFG didn't do it out of some desire to make it convenient for players. They did it to make the system proprietary.

If the symbols map to inches directly it would be infinitely easier to decipher than FFG's BS.

Genghis Cohen
Jun 29, 2013

Z the IVth posted:

FFG didn't do it out of some desire to make it convenient for players. They did it to make the system proprietary.

If the symbols map to inches directly it would be infinitely easier to decipher than FFG's BS.

I'm not praising FFG's implementation of it, obviously it's clearer and better if Range 1 is actually 3", Range 2 5" or whatever. I'm just saying it's better to assign your made-up units numbers (or even names, like 'short move/long move' or 'short/medium/long range' than it is to assign them symbols.

TheDiceMustRoll
Jul 23, 2018

Genghis Cohen posted:

Necromunda can certainly be criticised for publishing too many rules and proof-reading them drat badly, but it seems bonkers to suggest that has killed the game. For everyone who hates those aspects enough to leave the game alone, there seem to be two players who gripe but still enjoy the masses of vibrant content, and three more who have just seen the models and are asking how to buy into the game.

This is quite interesting stuff that I never got serious enough about X Wing to really understand. But my point was actually, if you are going to have arbitrary range/distance increments, just label them with numbers. Range 1, Range 2 etc. That seems better for communication than Range circle, range pentagon etc. The latter seems super inconvenient to describe in writing and even clunky to talk about.

"What's the range on this unit's guns Bob?"
"Oh, they're two circles Jim"
"That's great, I can charge pentagon, so I should be able to get them before they can fire"

? Was that intentional?

Eediot Jedi
Dec 25, 2007

This is where I begin to speculate what being a
man of my word costs me

Asphyxious posted:

Necrochunder

:australia:

Moola
Aug 16, 2006
*runs sweating and panting into the thread after thinking about how the Necromunda rules problem kinda sucks*

more like

NecroBLUNDER

Xlorp
Jan 23, 2008


needs more SCRUNTS

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

lilljonas posted:

Like robotech with waves of anonymous goon mechas, mowed down by four protagonist battletechs?


Mr.Booger posted:

I am 100% in for Battletech Quest, Now I am off to hack this into reality

It would basically be Armored Core the Board Game. You and three buddies take your custom mechs into a giant mech dungeon and blow up enemies on a quest for loot.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

Asphyxious posted:

Yaktribe is great, I play Cawdor too! Cawdor are *fantastic* with the new rules, you’ll have a lot of fun!

Everyone going Van Saar is a bit of a worry, none of us play hyper competitively so there’s no van Saar in our campaign at all lol.

If you’re interested in checking out a bunch of photos from our campaign(s) (it’s being run over two states, side by side) then check out Necrochunder on Instagram, everyone’s put a lot of effort into the gangs and terrain so it makes for good photos :)

Hell yeah that's awesome, and gives me motivation to actually finish up my corvus cabal cawdor gang and get some games in.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Atlas Hugged posted:

It would basically be Armored Core the Board Game. You and three buddies take your custom mechs into a giant mech dungeon and blow up enemies on a quest for loot.

Sounds pretty good to me

Hedningen
May 4, 2013

Enough sideburns to last a lifetime.

Asphyxious posted:

Yaktribe is great, I play Cawdor too! Cawdor are *fantastic* with the new rules, you’ll have a lot of fun!

Everyone going Van Saar is a bit of a worry, none of us play hyper competitively so there’s no van Saar in our campaign at all lol.

If you’re interested in checking out a bunch of photos from our campaign(s) (it’s being run over two states, side by side) then check out Necrochunder on Instagram, everyone’s put a lot of effort into the gangs and terrain so it makes for good photos :)

That is awesome!

Still trying to decide on which Path of Faith to run: leaning towards Fanatic, as I absolutely needed to use an Eviscerator on my leader because that weapon is amazing, and the rest of my gang is pretty much geared towards short-to-mid range. Decided bodies were more important at the start, so running 3 Brethren, 1 Redemptionist Specialist, and 3 Bonepickers along with a Priest and 2 Firebrands. Kinda light on armor and backup gear, but I figured an extra Bonepicker was more useful than a few 6+ saves.

Randalor
Sep 4, 2011



Does anyone know roughly what size the Slaaneshi Knights from Epic 40k are in relation to the Imperial knights? I'm tempted to try my hand at 3D modeling and making "Slaanesh Knight" parts for Imperial Knights seems like a good starting point for doing curving parts. I'm just not sure which of the 3 sizes of Imperial Knight to use as the base for the parts.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Randalor posted:

Does anyone know roughly what size the Slaaneshi Knights from Epic 40k are in relation to the Imperial knights? I'm tempted to try my hand at 3D modeling and making "Slaanesh Knight" parts for Imperial Knights seems like a good starting point for doing curving parts. I'm just not sure which of the 3 sizes of Imperial Knight to use as the base for the parts.

The old knights are to the new knights what squatmarines are to primaris. They all look like average 28mm figs and even the new questoris is primaris sized.

Randalor
Sep 4, 2011



So if I wanted to make Slaaneshi Knights for Chaos Knights in Warhammer 40k, would it be Armiger-sized for the Hell Strider and standard Knight-sized for the Hell Knight and Hell Scourge? Or standard knight size for the Strider and Dominus-size for the Hell Knight and Scourge?

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



The hell strider works armiger-size, the other two should be regular knight size.

(That's how I'm doing it in Epic, anyway.)

E:
This link has the top half of the Hell-strider in 28mm, you're on your own for the legs.

moths fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Jul 16, 2021

Hedningen
May 4, 2013

Enough sideburns to last a lifetime.


Getting my Cawdor conversions finished. Mostly concentrating on sculpting more heads. Also including my bomb possum because I love that ridiculous bit of wargear.

Asphyxious
Jun 25, 2012

I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life.

Hedningen posted:

That is awesome!

Still trying to decide on which Path of Faith to run: leaning towards Fanatic, as I absolutely needed to use an Eviscerator on my leader because that weapon is amazing, and the rest of my gang is pretty much geared towards short-to-mid range. Decided bodies were more important at the start, so running 3 Brethren, 1 Redemptionist Specialist, and 3 Bonepickers along with a Priest and 2 Firebrands. Kinda light on armor and backup gear, but I figured an extra Bonepicker was more useful than a few 6+ saves.

I’ve gone DOOOOOOOMED as being able to add even MORE guys to the field then make my opponent count my dead towards their bottle test is hilarious, especially in tandem.

xutech
Mar 4, 2011

EIIST

Children of Juice, volume 2.

Biting his bloody lip Pickles held Slub down, everyone gathered around as he performed the ritual once again to try and garner Juice’s attention.

Echoes of dark whispers swirled in the periphery - it was working!. Breathing deeply he closed his eyes to Slub’s squirming and choking, and reached out with his mind and made contact.

A word appeared in his mind, “Stimmhound”, and an associated feeling of inconsequence. That must have been that deranged bedraggled stimmer with the oily hair, reeking of bad booze!

Losing focus for a moment Pickles recalled his glorious charge into the fray, crushing one of the reviled Stimkrue underfoot with others wasting their ammo on him or foolishly throwing themselves off balconies at him only to break their own bones… then that shabby stimmer had rushed in….

Snapping his eyes wide open, Pickles wiped the drool from his chin and rose to his feet. Glancing briefly down at Slub’s twitching unconscious body, he knew what he had to do now, and why his defeat had not also lost him the favour of the great Juice.

Stimhound was washed out, and everyone else in that gang were irrelevant, but for one of Stimkrue that had not been there that day - Backwash! The name seemed to be burned behind Pickles’ eyes, he had to bring Backwash to Juice!

Children of Juice, volume 6.

Pickles shouted to Meatloaf and Scraps, pointing the lonely finger of his mutated chainarm towards the approaching Orlocks. Pickles turned to face the real threat, not waiting to make sure they understood the order, or seeing Meatloaf’s incredibly inept throw bounce his only grenade uselessly off into the distance.

Lightning crackled as Stabbitha burst through the smoke, the terrifying reborn Escher-Goliath techno-hybrid shredded a second allied slave Ogryn apart just as Pickles slammed his back to the wall, hidden under the overpass. Now was his chance!

Breathing deep, emboldened by the true spirit of Juice through rampaging through his veins, Pickles charged around the corner to face the monstrosity. Crashing hard into her they furiously exchanged blows in an exhausting show of stamina and resilience.

Raising his combi-pistol Pickles knew the tide was turning in his favour, but suddenly felt a cracking shock in the small of his back from an enforcer baton! Stumbling he turned to face this new foe, but he was greeted with a another - the gaping maw of a patrol dog. Barely able to kick the dog aside or fend off the partolman Pickles swung around again as Stabbitha pressed in with her dual lightning claws racing towards his eyes.

He didn’t have time, or air in his lungs, to speak, but the glare he gave through gritted bloody teeth spoke volumes - Stabbitha and the Ash Giants should have sided with the new god, Juice, rather than the the forces of oppression.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
Nerds getting mad about symbols isn't limited to GW groups. People were talking about it on a Mantic page and I explained that I actually liked how with the symbols and multipliers, you could have effects that affect models for different values of movement penalty rather than absolute values or clunky "reduce by half, round up or down" and people immediately got huffy and said, "BUT THE TRIANGLE JUST REPRESENTS INCHES!" and completely missed the point.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
Cheers if the shapes speed up KT

Jeers if they don't

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
Apparently further clarification from the devs shows that GW took the great idea of banded ranges and made ALL movement in "circles" so the idea that terrain would affect units differently is now out the window. Weapon ranges are banded, but not movement.

Genghis Cohen
Jun 29, 2013

TheDiceMustRoll posted:

? Was that intentional?



It was not i'm afraid. Is it a bloodbowl reference or something? I've never actually played.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



Atlas Hugged posted:

Apparently further clarification from the devs shows that GW took the great idea of banded ranges and made ALL movement in "circles" so the idea that terrain would affect units differently is now out the window. Weapon ranges are banded, but not movement.

Wait did they say how terrain is going to affect movement instead?

This seems incredibly short sighted. Like, that's 80% of the reason you'd use fixed units movement like this.

E:


The use of "most units" and "usually cost" circle make me think it might work the smart way. They're probably spoon feeding this out to avoid confusing people who want to get angry.

moths fucked around with this message at 14:57 on Jul 17, 2021

Hihohe
Oct 4, 2008

Fuck you and the sun you live under


Genghis Cohen posted:

It was not i'm afraid. Is it a bloodbowl reference or something? I've never actually played.

In rulebooks and the video games, fluff and lore is told as if Announcers Bob Bifford(the ogre) and Jim Johnson (vampire) are sportscasting it to you.

Zark the Damned
Mar 9, 2013

Randalor posted:

So if I wanted to make Slaaneshi Knights for Chaos Knights in Warhammer 40k, would it be Armiger-sized for the Hell Strider and standard Knight-sized for the Hell Knight and Hell Scourge? Or standard knight size for the Strider and Dominus-size for the Hell Knight and Scourge?

Taking a quick look at


Hell Knight and Hell Scourge look about regular Knight size (for the time), Questor is wider due to those gun arms so maybe Castellan equivalent, the Hell Strider is a bit smaller and iirc used to come in 'packs' so Armiger is probably appropriate though may be a little undersized. Subjugator is about Warhound sized.

chin up everything sucks
Jan 29, 2012

Walked into my FLGS this morning at 10am, right as they opened. Asked about pre-ordering the Beast Snagga set.

"Sorry, as soon as they announce a new set like this, we set up a reservation system. We have 33 people in queue to buy that set, and we are only getting 4 of them next week"

:cripes:

So many boxes are going to scalpers who are just putting them up online for double the price or more. I tried getting on GWs website immediately after, took a half hour to get into the web store and... they were already sold out online.

TheDiceMustRoll
Jul 23, 2018

chin up everything sucks posted:

Walked into my FLGS this morning at 10am, right as they opened. Asked about pre-ordering the Beast Snagga set.

"Sorry, as soon as they announce a new set like this, we set up a reservation system. We have 33 people in queue to buy that set, and we are only getting 4 of them next week"

:cripes:

So many boxes are going to scalpers who are just putting them up online for double the price or more. I tried getting on GWs website immediately after, took a half hour to get into the web store and... they were already sold out online.

praise "new" GW for fixing all the problems of old GW

Tiny Chalupa
Feb 14, 2012
Not feeling optimistic about snagging the new kill team on pre order

TurdBurgles
Sep 17, 2007

I AM WHITE AND PLAY NA FLUTE ON TRIBAL LANDS WITH NO GUILT.

Tiny Chalupa posted:

Not feeling optimistic about snagging the new kill team on pre order

TheDiceMustRoll
Jul 23, 2018
there's a scalper where I live who already announced on facebook he's planning to buy every copy he can and flip the krieg sprues online :suicide:

none of the FLGSes have a 1-per-customer rule either

Ropes4u
May 2, 2009

TheDiceMustRoll posted:

there's a scalper where I live who already announced on facebook he's planning to buy every copy he can and flip the krieg sprues online :suicide:

none of the FLGSes have a 1-per-customer rule either

Scalpers are the worst form of human

TheDiceMustRoll
Jul 23, 2018

Ropes4u posted:

Scalpers are the worst form of human

its capitalisms fault, being able to smugly say to investors that your beast snaggas and kill team 2.0 boxes sold out instantly makes investors clap. even if no community can form around instantly-gone box investors clap because all they care about is sales.

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011

TheDiceMustRoll posted:

its capitalisms fault, being able to smugly say to investors that your beast snaggas and kill team 2.0 boxes sold out instantly makes investors clap. even if no community can form around instantly-gone box investors clap because all they care about is sales.

the decision by GW to make the starting box for every game a limited edition FOMO thing can't help tbh

Twigand Berries
Sep 7, 2008

TheDiceMustRoll posted:

its capitalisms fault, being able to smugly say to investors that your beast snaggas and kill team 2.0 boxes sold out instantly makes investors clap. even if no community can form around instantly-gone box investors clap because all they care about is sales.

yes but without capitalism how could breakthrough plastic technology occur will you condemn us to waiting in lines for our loaf of snagga?

oh wait

TheDiceMustRoll
Jul 23, 2018

Cease to Hope posted:

the decision by GW to make the starting box for every game a limited edition FOMO thing can't help tbh
i dont know what you're trying to say

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

TheDiceMustRoll posted:

there's a scalper where I live who already announced on facebook he's planning to buy every copy he can and flip the krieg sprues online :suicide:

none of the FLGSes have a 1-per-customer rule either

Name and shame?

TheDiceMustRoll
Jul 23, 2018

Z the IVth posted:

Name and shame?

he's already getting absolutely loving roasted in the facebook group, and people are talking about banning him from joining the blood bowl league we're starting up in august if he actually does this.

plus i would be doxxing myself a bit and him as well

Eediot Jedi
Dec 25, 2007

This is where I begin to speculate what being a
man of my word costs me

TheDiceMustRoll posted:

i dont know what you're trying to say

GW making limited edition starter boxes for 40k, AoS (still in stock btw lol) and now Kill Team encourages scalpers.

I assume the poster also means limited edition sets like the Sisters box, the space wolf v orks one, the space elf thunderdome one etc. Cursed City is an odd one because it wasn't supposed to be limited edition.

TheDiceMustRoll
Jul 23, 2018

Eediot Jedi posted:

GW making limited edition starter boxes for 40k, AoS (still in stock btw lol) and now Kill Team encourages scalpers.

I assume the poster also means limited edition sets like the Sisters box, the space wolf v orks one, the space elf thunderdome one etc. Cursed City is an odd one because it wasn't supposed to be limited edition.

yes but GW likes scalpers

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lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!

TheDiceMustRoll posted:

yes but GW likes scalpers

It makes perfect sense because having stock in storage is financial poison for companies like GW. If they leave some money on the table (the margin scalpers take) but get 100% of their stock off the shelves on day one, that's an amazing deal for them. It's like outsourcing your storage to a bunch of rando's basements and closets.

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