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Nyyen posted:Yeah, hondas as a whole seem to have decent interiors, less gimmicky I guess if they are a little star trek. I am a firm believer that orange/red should be the only allowed interior lighting colors when a vehicle is in motion in the front seats, including screens.
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Minnesota Mixup posted:I am a firm believer that orange/red should be the only allowed interior lighting colors when a vehicle is in motion in the front seats, including screens. I loved my good old RSX-S, everything in the whole dash was red except for the blue dot that indicated the cool end of the climate control temperature dial, the amber LED that indicated recirculating air, and the green LED that indicated the air conditioning was on. Everything else was this beautiful dark red that you could dim down to almost nothing.
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StormDrain posted:In light of Imperador do Brazils purchase I parked next to a fiat today and peeked inside. What I saw was upsetting. My wife thought this was a Japanese toilet.
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MetaJew posted:My wife thought this was a Japanese toilet. it is
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MetaJew posted:My wife thought this was a Japanese toilet. Fiat Fart Only a white and black peg away from being solved in that old game Mastermind
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Midjack posted:I loved my good old RSX-S, everything in the whole dash was red except for the blue dot that indicated the cool end of the climate control temperature dial, the amber LED that indicated recirculating air, and the green LED that indicated the air conditioning was on. Everything else was this beautiful dark red that you could dim down to almost nothing. On my Peugeot 406, everything* was orange and the entire center console, radio etc was on the same dimmer as the gauge cluster. It was such a pleasant cockpit. * Except I think indicators and low beam, which were green, and of course the critical warning lights, which were red. The only blue light was the high beam, as per tradition and legal requirements.
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Back when I wanted an Audi I hated the red lighting to the point of not buying one. Now I'm actively changing green surface mount LEDs in my current car to....drumroll..... Red. Now I'm almost finished I think I like purple more.
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Jul 18, 2021 10:47
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Orange rocks. E: another good thing BMW changed smdh
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I think MB is the winner on the latest S class for offensive lighting.
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It's so bad that those 2 posts aren't enough to convey it. Seriously.
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tuo posted:Orange rocks. I can set mine to "classic" orange or "luxury" white. I keep it orange. The terrible is that the knob that controls the interior lights also adjusts the HUD, so if I turn down the lights at night, I also turn down the speedo projected on the windshield, which I don't want to do. I may be able to adjust that separately in the system menus to compensate, but I don't want to be messing with that while driving.
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StormDrain posted:In light of Imperador do Brazils purchase I parked next to a fiat today and peeked inside. What I saw was upsetting. But yeah. Seems easy enough to just stick a plastic bin in there, and perhaps mount the buttons on the top quarter of that bin. Or just get it with a manual transmission. Automatics are pretty meh for lightweight cars. E: wait, this is a 500 right? If it's one of those fiat-jeep things, then automatics make more sense. LimaBiker fucked around with this message at 13:42 on Jul 18, 2021 |
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Uthor posted:I can set mine to "classic" orange or "luxury" white. I keep it orange. This is semi-related to one of my projects actually. I'm working on a piggy-back module for the HUD in BMWs to display custom information like oil temp, RPMs, manifold pressure, AFR, etc. I'm probably 6 months out from having anything I could reasonably sell but there's a lot of information I'd like to have on mine that I imagine others would as well, since the non-M models don't even have an option to display RPM. Probably be in the price range of $600-700 as the bill of materials isn't cheap being that it needs to intercept and decode a high speed serial link at 6 Gb/s.
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Minnesota Mixup posted:This is semi-related to one of my projects actually. I'm working on a piggy-back module for the HUD in BMWs to display custom information like oil temp, RPMs, manifold pressure, AFR, etc. I'm probably 6 months out from having anything I could reasonably sell but there's a lot of information I'd like to have on mine that I imagine others would as well, since the non-M models don't even have an option to display RPM. Probably be in the price range of $600-700 as the bill of materials isn't cheap being that it needs to intercept and decode a high speed serial link at 6 Gb/s. well that sounds awesome. is there a thread for this project?
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snugglz posted:well that sounds awesome. is there a thread for this project? Nah, but I may post about it occasionally in the BMW thread as I make more progress on it. It's still some ways out as I don't have much time to dedicate to it at the moment due to work but that's at least expected to lessen in a few months.
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Uthor posted:I can set mine to "classic" orange or "luxury" white. I keep it orange. That’s good to know that they added the classic color again. The only current BMW I drive at the moment is an i, and there’s sadly only the white option. I mean, it doesn’t look bad, but Bimmer should be amber/orange. Yeah, I’m old…
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One of the things I really miss about the SAAB I used to drive is the "night panel" button that would turn off all irrelevant lights on the instrument panel. Unless you were low on fuel or revving near redline or overheating or something only the speedo would be lit up. It was great and all cars should have such a button.
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Invalido posted:One of the things I really miss about the SAAB I used to drive is the "night panel" button that would turn off all irrelevant lights on the instrument panel. Unless you were low on fuel or revving near redline or overheating or something only the speedo would be lit up. It was great and all cars should have such a button. On my 9-5 only the lower half of the speedo was lit up, then the remainder when you hit a certain speed.
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Clayton Bigsby posted:On my 9-5 only the lower half of the speedo was lit up, then the remainder when you hit a certain speed. I had a 9-5 too, and now that you mention it that's exactly what it did. Very neat.
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I guess I've never really understood that. I like having all the data my car can give me available at night with a circus of bright lights on the dash. I don't have any issues seeing stuff outside, and I basically like cruising in the dark like I'm in some vaporwave spaceship. I want more lights in the cab. All the lights.
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Mr. Wiggles posted:I guess I've never really understood that. I like having all the data my car can give me available at night with a circus of bright lights on the dash. I don't have any issues seeing stuff outside, and I basically like cruising in the dark like I'm in some vaporwave spaceship. I want more lights in the cab. All the lights. That's why it should be switchable. All the lights if you want them, minimal lighting if you prefer that.
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Mr. Wiggles posted:I guess I've never really understood that. I like having all the data my car can give me available at night with a circus of bright lights on the dash. I don't have any issues seeing stuff outside, and I basically like cruising in the dark like I'm in some vaporwave spaceship. I want more lights in the cab. All the lights. Sometimes on a long drive you just want to zone out and let the miles fly by. When I have to be on location an hour away by 5am I normally lower the brightness all the way down and turn on a podcast. Cruise is set and it’s basically autopilot at that point but a bunch of bright lights kind of ruins the vibe.
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depends on the road I guess. If there's street lighting or no wildlife or pedestrians it's fine. If you're driving on a twisty country road in the dark and it's raining and you have the Fear of the Moose and you're scanning for a reflective eye of an animal the size of a large horse about to dash across the road and commit suicide against your head and upper torso you want as little light inside your car as possible IMO. terrible moose stuff: 
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Bright dash lights suck poo poo and should be banned. If you don't want them banned I will accept a standard issue option to turn them off somehow. Thank you. *LCD screens too, fully. None of this black screen but still on bullshit either.
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Bright dash lights suck poo poo and should be banned. If you don't want them banned I will accept a standard issue option to turn them off somehow. Thank you. Clearly the use case for OLED. Can show relevant info in a dark friendly color but otherwise emits zero light if black. LCD screens have the least excuses. Night mode toggle that puts a simplified speedo right in the middle, maybe a simple dark red bar tucked in a corner for fuel. Other indicators as legally required. Bring up more info as you slow down , under 5 mph? Now you can show the gear selector and other info. It could all be automatic.
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PirateDentist posted:LCD screens have the least excuses. Night mode toggle that puts a simplified speedo right in the middle, maybe a simple dark red bar tucked in a corner for fuel. Other indicators as legally required. Bring up more info as you slow down , under 5 mph? Now you can show the gear selector and other info. It could all be automatic. This type of mode switching increases the cognitive load of the operator and often causes confusion. This is not a good thing. Lots of studies about this in the aviation sector. This whole discussion is a solution looking for a problem. None of this was an issue with analog gauges and a dimmer switch. As far as nigh visibility, the war of headlight brightness/power has done those of us in rural areas even fewer favors than the cockpit madness. Even if it's just your own headlights that are so drat bright and focused, it reduces your ability to see things in your peripheral (like deer, moose, etc). Motronic fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Jul 19, 2021 |
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Bright dash lights suck poo poo and should be banned. If you don't want them banned I will accept a standard issue option to turn them off somehow. Thank you. I bought an Android Auto head unit for my car and it won't allow you to black out the screen without turning the radio completely off, and of course even with the brightness turned all the way down there is still a ton of light leaking out. It's terrible. Thanks, Alpine!
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Olympic Mathlete posted:*LCD screens too, fully. None of this black screen but still on bullshit either. Mine does this and it's infuriating
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Minnesota Mixup posted:I am a firm believer that orange/red should be the only allowed interior lighting colors when a vehicle is in motion in the front seats, including screens. Apparently green is fairly similar to red regarding night vision. Toyota used/uses green in a few vehicles because of that.
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Interesting - I didn't know that! Unknown source that seems to back that found in super-quick google: https://www.adsafe.co.nz/site/adsafe/RED%20OR%20GREEN%20FOR%20NIGHT%20VISION%20LIGHTING.pdf Basically, red and green are both better than white, bright anything is always bad, green might let you see a little bit better and red might protect night vision a little bit better, green is less detectable by night vision equipment. I was doing pretty good at turning everything in my jeep red (even the overhead light) until I installed a carplay headunit. Maybe I can put a red tint on it.
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Mr. Wiggles posted:I guess I've never really understood that. I like having all the data my car can give me available at night with a circus of bright lights on the dash. I don't have any issues seeing stuff outside, and I basically like cruising in the dark like I'm in some vaporwave spaceship. I want more lights in the cab. All the lights. The ergonomic theory here is called the "dark panel," and the idea is that when everything is going right, all the lights and indicators are off. The only time an indicator should show up is when something goes wrong or requires attention. Otherwise, you hide it. This minimizes driver/pilot/operator fatigue and distraction, and decreases the chance that something important will get lost in the noise. When you're cruising down the highway, the only data you really need to see is your current speed. Your tachometer, oil pressure, battery voltage, yada yada -- those only need to light up when they're getting into a dangerous range. If everything is normal, just turn them off. You can certainly prefer to have all the lights turned on, but ergonomically it's better to have them off.
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Sagebrush posted:The ergonomic theory here is called the "dark panel," and the idea is that when everything is going right, all the lights and indicators are off. The only time an indicator should show up is when something goes wrong or requires attention. Otherwise, you hide it. This minimizes driver/pilot/operator fatigue and distraction, and decreases the chance that something important will get lost in the noise. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vIjBtdEQRE
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Motronic posted:As far as nigh visibility, the war of headlight brightness/power has done those of us in rural areas even fewer favors than the cockpit madness. Even if it's just your own headlights that are so drat bright and focused, it reduces your ability to see things in your peripheral (like deer, moose, etc). I think the real issue is that trucks suvs etc have all gotten so high that their lights are at the us maximum of 4 1/2 feet, and that's before they get raised even higher, so they're at eye level of anyone not driving one. I can barely see at night in rural areas now because their headlights are right at eye level and almost always misaimed since there's no check for that. It's incredibly dangerous but cops are too busy pulling people for 5 mph over than someone literally blinding all oncoming traffic.
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Some jackass was driving around our neighborhood with a lifted truck and a light bar on the grille that was probably 1 million candlepower. I loving heard/seen him from a couple blocks away.
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Minnesota Mixup posted:I think the real issue is that trucks suvs etc have all gotten so high that their lights are at the us maximum of 4 1/2 feet, and that's before they get raised even higher, so they're at eye level of anyone not driving one. I can barely see at night in rural areas now because their headlights are right at eye level and almost always misaimed since there's no check for that. It's incredibly dangerous but cops are too busy pulling people for 5 mph over than someone literally blinding all oncoming traffic.
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Minnesota Mixup posted:I think the real issue is that trucks suvs etc have all gotten so high that their lights are at the us maximum of 4 1/2 feet, and that's before they get raised even higher, so they're at eye level of anyone not driving one. I can barely see at night in rural areas now because their headlights are right at eye level and almost always misaimed since there's no check for that. It's incredibly dangerous but cops are too busy pulling people for 5 mph over than someone literally blinding all oncoming traffic. Agreed that that is certainly an issue, but really.......headlights being this focused and bright is really not helpful unless you can always assume that any threats are directly in front of you, or the area you are driving in is well lit. This isn't the case for most of the roads in this or probably any other country.
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Uh huh... Alternatively, gently caress trucks.
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Need an open cargo license to have a pickup truck.loving dumb-rear end blinding, fishtailing, rollover prone death machines.
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