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Isn't the red shoes an old-timey antiCatholic thing. Like popes and bishops wear red shoes to signal that they're down with pedophilia?
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I know they must have an answer for it, but why do q people think their enemies put clues into their personal photos and social media? If that guy was infiltrating q according to them, why would he put a satanist symbol in his public photos.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:I know they must have an answer for it, but why do q people think their enemies put clues into their personal photos and social media? If that guy was infiltrating q according to them, why would he put a satanist symbol in his public photos. To signal to other satanists that he's cool This falls apart when you ask "Well then why the gently caress do they have all those secret meetings in pizza restaurant basements if they don't know their own membership?"
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VitalSigns posted:Isn't the red shoes an old-timey antiCatholic thing.
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VitalSigns posted:You're trying to apply Facts and Logic to a formless conspiracy theory left deliberately open-ended so every believer can just mentally fill in the details on the fly to swat away objections but: I believe the explanation for downballot races is that it was big Democrat cities like Detroit and Atlanta and Milwaukee doing all the fraud so they were only able to affect the statewide races like president, Arizona and Georgia senators, etc True, the people doing it (most of them anyway) KNOW it's merely about spreading doubt in order to introduce restrictive legislation designed to solve a problem that doesn't exist so they can try to frame it as "election integrity". Who doesn't want that? Except one of the few things we do well in this country, for the most part, is run fair elections. But, sadly I think that's about to take a huge hit precisely because of what these creeps are doing. Not sure who I get angrier with, tbh. The ones that know what they're doing, the runes who eat it up or the true believers in office that really think 2020 was a big sham. I doubt even Trump believes it but I'm not sure. EDIT: I think also that among the followers, a lot of is also projection. Like, "I know what I WOULD DO if I were rich and powerful" or whatever, which explains why they worship Trump because they know that's how they would talk and act and he represents what they think success is in the U.S. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Jul 14, 2021 |
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:I know they must have an answer for it, but why do q people think their enemies put clues into their personal photos and social media? If that guy was infiltrating q according to them, why would he put a satanist symbol in his public photos. I think it's like, literally magic. Like they gain power from flaunting their villainy with symbols. Or it's part of how they control the world. Doing it unlocks even more adrenochrome levels or something. There is kind of a weird parallel though. Think about like how white power people (aka Q-anon) love to do things like embrace Pepe, which is a truly stupid symbol, as a symbol of racism and white nationalism. Then when it's pointed out, people just scoff and say oh he's just a cartoon frog. Or the same thing with that stupid splayed finger upside down OK symbol that people keep doing in photographs. When they're called out on it, or having a stage built like a nazi SS symbol, they say it's a coincidence or it's just an okay symbol. It serves to signal to other desperate loners/ loonies that no, there very much are nazis out there. People always accuse the other side of what they are guilty of.
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BiggerBoat posted:I doubt even Trump believes it but I'm not sure. Imo we can be sure Trump doesn't believe it to the same extent we can be sure he believes anything. We know that he expected to lose and his plan was to get his people to vote in person, declare victory before the absentee ballots were counted then sue to stop the count, but this failed. He allowed the supreme court case to get punted for lack of standing rather than joining the suit himself, you wouldn't do that if you believed you had evidence of fraud. He claimed Hillary stole Virgina and California in 2016 but obviously didn't do anything about this for 4 years. And we know that he privately doesn't believe a lot of stuff he says, like we have audio of him telling Bob Woodward how bad covid is and how he was downplaying it to the public
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pseudanonymous posted:People always accuse the other side of what they are guilty of.
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It's not always projection but it often turns out to be. It's why they think virtue signaling is real because they think everyone is as jaded and resentful as they are. Then there's those ex-Trump staffers who end up caught for possession of cp and other awful poo poo.
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pseudanonymous posted:People always accuse the other side of what they are guilty of.
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VitalSigns posted:Christian network Made For TV Movie idea: "God's Not Banned". A Christian mom shares a Chirpface post from her Church group by a kidnapped little girl begging for help, and her atheist millennial son yells that she's a stupid conspiracy theorist for sharing misinformation from a banned account only... it's not banned on her phone. Or their neighbor's, or their pastor's, in fact every Christian they know can see the banned girl's posts. Reading this made me tired because deep down I know this poo poo is going to be on streaming services in about two years.
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pseudanonymous posted:I think it's like, literally magic. Like they gain power from flaunting their villainy with symbols. Or it's part of how they control the world.
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Has anyone here read the works of Bob Altemeyer? He says that Trump supporters tend to be right-wing authoritarians. Right-wing authoritarians are people who are submissive to their leaders and conformist in behavior. That's the definition, but psychologists have found that right-wing authoritarians commonly display certain patterns of irrational thinking, such as compartmentalized minds, dogmatism, poor critical thinking skills, double standards, and hypocrisy. Americans are looking at Trump supporters like they're some weird new phenomenon but actually these crazies have always been there, and there has been a lot of research into these types.
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Guavanaut posted:The leopard is also a child trafficker.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:I know they must have an answer for it, but why do q people think their enemies put clues into their personal photos and social media? If that guy was infiltrating q according to them, why would he put a satanist symbol in his public photos. (1) They can't tell the difference between fantasy and reality. The Joker leaves clues for Batman in the comics, he doesn't need a reason, he's evil! (2) They don't think the satanists are stupidly giving themselves away, they think these are actually complex nigh-unbreakable codes that only QAnons can figure out because they're morons who think they're the smartest people in the planet. One of the big draws of conspiracy theories is they tell you you're smarter than all the "sheep" just because you believe in the theory. If you refuse to understand how seasons work because learning is hard you're just an incurious moron but if you refuse to learn because it's all Big Globe propaganda then you're one of the few elect intellectuals who can see through the lies! There's a reason all the Deep State cabal pedophile secure communications are just steganography and basic alphabet replacement codes and recycled Boomer AOL-fears like "cheese pizza = cp = child porn" and "LOL=Lucifer Our Lord" and secret hand gestures and poo poo that a bored children's author would think up for another Encyclopedia Brown story, because that's all Anons know about cryptography from TV and movies. Which is pretty funny given their obsession with Bitcoin which, say what you want about it, at least uses modern cryptography and not like "tweet your Bitcoin address in the form of one wrong letter in every misspelled word and hope no one but your friends figure it out" Flopsy posted:Reading this made me tired because deep down I know this poo poo is going to be on streaming services in about two years. I considered writing out a full dramatic "now you are immune to rubella" short story treatment but I was worried everyone would hate it, you're welcome for sparing you that. I appreciate the critical feedback from everyone else I'll let you know when Trinity Broadcasting options my script. VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Jul 14, 2021 |
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I mean, yeah, the big gaping logical hole in every conspiracy theory is "well if it's all a big conspiracy trying to cover up X then why is there all this evidence of a coverup lying around" You're never gonna get a satisfying answer to that question
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You could just as well ask that UFO cult in "When Prophecy Fails" why out of all the people on Earth the could have chosen to save from Armageddon and take to Elysium or wherever, they picked some collection of bored Ohio suburbanites, dumb hicks, and college kids with no friends. You'll never get a satisfying rational answer, but their emotional feeling is "well obviously we were chosen because we're the only special ones smart and wise enough to believe, everyone else is a blind doubting sheep" and that's good enough for them. Obviously all the evidence is out there because we're the only ones smart enough to see it, obviously the cabal uses these secret signs and coded language because they work on everyone else and we're the only ones smart enough to crack it
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Froghammer posted:I mean, yeah, the big gaping logical hole in every conspiracy theory is "well if it's all a big conspiracy trying to cover up X then why is there all this evidence of a coverup lying around"
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Kurzon posted:Has anyone here read the works of Bob Altemeyer? He says that Trump supporters tend to be right-wing authoritarians. Right-wing authoritarians are people who are submissive to their leaders and conformist in behavior. That's the definition, but psychologists have found that right-wing authoritarians commonly display certain patterns of irrational thinking, such as compartmentalized minds, dogmatism, poor critical thinking skills, double standards, and hypocrisy. Americans are looking at Trump supporters like they're some weird new phenomenon but actually these crazies have always been there, and there has been a lot of research into these types. This has really been going on for a while even though it seems fairly recent and I always come back to blaming AM talk radio poo poo. I got to thinking about the Obama birth certificate thing today but way before that there was the Vince Foster suicide, the Clinton hit list and the 2000 Hanging Chad Election. Admittedly, poo poo's on a whole new level now but that last one in particular got me thinking because in that particular case even though you didn't have election fraud you had a rightfully disputed and genuinely stolen election that, as a Gore voter, I was told to get over it and that my side were being bitches. VitalSigns posted:You could just as well ask that UFO cult in "When Prophecy Fails" It's kind of quaint that now that the government has officially admitted that "yeah, we don't know what the gently caress these flying things are", I don't hear much at all Area 51 and all that cover up poo poo. Government released a bunch of videos and poo poo and it's hardly ever even talked about BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Jul 14, 2021 |
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VitalSigns posted:Isn't the red shoes an old-timey antiCatholic thing. I thought it was a softcore porno tv series with David Ducovney that 13 years olds watching late at night to get their first glimpse of boobs in the pre-internet era. Also there was an episode with Matt Leblanc pre-friends I believe.
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VitalSigns posted:I considered writing out a full dramatic "now you are immune to rubella" short story treatment but I was worried everyone would hate it, you're welcome for sparing you that. I appreciate the critical feedback from everyone else I'll let you know when Trinity Broadcasting options my script.
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BiggerBoat posted:This has really been going on for a while even though it seems fairly recent and I always come back to blaming AM talk radio poo poo. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/why-was-kavanaugh-obsessed-with-vince-foster.html
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:I know they must have an answer for it, but why do q people think their enemies put clues into their personal photos and social media? If that guy was infiltrating q according to them, why would he put a satanist symbol in his public photos. A lot of conspiracy theorists seemingly expect the conspiracy to work like an escape room or The Da Vinci Code. The reason for that is twofold, imo. First, having a conspiracy that behaves like an I Spy puzzle is a necessary condition for the conspiracy theory to grow. It gives proponents something to do, an activity to bond over. A conspiracy signified by breadcrumbs is, therefore, necessary for the theory to propagate. If the conspiracy theory went "Joe Biden is actually a clone, but I have no evidence of it because his evil globalist handlers aren't stupid enough to write 'Joe Biiden' on everything", then it wouldn't spread because there's nothing for anyone else to latch onto, nor any facet to make a newfound believer feel like they're part of an exclusive club. Secondly— and perhaps more importantly— scouring for clues is doing *something* to stop the perceived evil. To the conspiracy theorist, looking at Facebook pictures for Satanic symbols is their equivalent of looking at the Death Star plans for a weakness— and in so doing they're forming their own little community of resistors, tying into the importance of a community for a conspiracy theory to spread. I have no evidence of this, but it seems to track with what becomes popular.
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There are billions of ideas, things and people in the world. If you just go looking for odd links between seemingly unrelated things you will find them. It’s the non-critical approach of accepting that link as meaningful when there is no merit to it that makes something a conspiracy theory rather than an actual workable hypothesis that can be investigated and proven or disproven. If a politician wears a blue tie on a day where across the world someone dies in a car accident after being hit by a blue car there are some people who will see that as evidence of a conspiracy. There is no link there, if you ask the politician about the coincidence they’ll deny it. Which just feeds the conspiracy because the whole point is that it’s a secret and you weren’t supposed to find the link. The conspiracy theorist doesn’t abandon the conspiracy because there is no evidence for it. The lack of evidence in itself becomes the evidence of its existence because to validate their world it must be true. It really is similar to devout religion.
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https://twitter.com/RespectableLaw/status/1416483611700760576 If you want an expression of what QAnon is going to be from now on, it's deranged conspiracy theories formented by the far-right, being communicated to pilled-as-gently caress agents of the state with nigh infinite power to brutalize you. Same way we saw it with the west coast wildfires, at some point the cops and sheriffs are going to start executing random outsiders for arson. These actions aren't high level directives from policy makers, it's completely organic mental infiltration of the least mentally-capable government workers in this burnt out lovely system. And again, this is why libs are deluding themselves if the police state will be on their side. Any power you give them to enforce centrist lib policy (covid mask mandates, hate crime laws, protection of property from anti-racism protests, hunting down of Jan 6th rioters) will instantly be used by the police to prosecute their own idiot grievances.
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Phobophilia posted:https://twitter.com/RespectableLaw/status/1416483611700760576 Remember last summer when police in multiple cities started shooting rubber bullets and pepper balls directly at reporters and news crews while they were broadcasting live, and the reporters responded with passive confusion and wondered aloud why police seemed to be targeting them?
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Grouchio posted:Why wouldn't the LAPD defend the Spa rather than QAnon? Funnily enough they were dispatched specifically because the armed chud presence got it declared an unlawful assembly, but for some reason they violently dispersed the counter-protestors and just kinda gently persuaded the nazis to leave
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BiggerBoat posted:This has really been going on for a while even though it seems fairly recent and I always come back to blaming AM talk radio poo poo.
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Kurzon posted:I wonder if those poor people ever received apologies from conservatives, now that conservatives agree the Iraq War was stupid. What does your heart tell you IMO it's a defining feature of the right that you never admit that you were wrong. You either double down or you pretend you never held a particular stance in the first place. There's no looking back and potentially acknowledging you might have been wrong once, it's completely forward-oriented.
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Lord Stimperor posted:What does your heart tell you This is what Bob Altemeyer wrote of right-wing authoritarians in his 2006 book: quote:Is there any conceivable evidence or revelation that will lead them to admit the war was a mistake? I suspect some of them will eventually, begrudgingly reach that point, and others will rewrite their personal histories and say they had their doubts from the start. But others, petrified by their dogmatism, will never admit the undeniable. Did they ever about Viet-Nam? No. “We just didn’t use enough force!”-- which is exactly the argument those who proposed the invasion of Iraq are using now as they tried to shift the blame for the failure of their incredibly unsound policy.
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Kurzon posted:apologies from conservatives these words dont make any sense when put together in this way
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Lord Stimperor posted:What does your heart tell you See also: Obama's "Apology" Tour and him suggesting that perhaps once or twice the United States acted a little bad. America can do no wrong, you see. Unless we elect a democrat in which case the vote was rigged somehow. Obama wasn't wrong about these yahoos "clinging to their guns and religion". poo poo, they're proud of it. Hell, at this stage of the game it wouldn't surprise me to learn that that the CHUDS blame Iraq entirely on democrats; to the extent that they acknowledge it at all I mean. I guess what happened to Bill Maher, The Dixie Chicks and a few other people I can't recall but remember getting hosed with doesn't count as cancel culture. There's also a lot of crossover between the high levels of gun ownership and the whole "when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail" phenomenon. As well as similar correlation with how, say, pro athletes always thank god they caught that TD pass or hit that home run but never blame him when they drop it or strike out. They'll say it's a miracle from god that their house was spared from a tornado without ever wondering why the hell he unleashed it in the first place and hosed up their all neighbor's homes. If I succeed: God did that because of my faith If I fail: It was minorities, the media and the government. Or I didn't pray hard enough and/or god is testing me. Also, covid is fake Why is it never god's will when a hurricane levels Mississippi or Joe Biden beats Donald Trump? BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Jul 18, 2021 |
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BiggerBoat posted:Obama is a war criminal piece of poo poo libfuck. 
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Phobophilia posted:formented "fomented" hth
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Remember last summer when police in multiple cities started shooting rubber bullets and pepper balls directly at reporters and news crews while they were broadcasting live, and the reporters responded with passive confusion and wondered aloud why police seemed to be targeting them? They arrested a CNN crew live on air and CNN still tongue bathes cop boot and hypes the "MASSIVE CRIME WAVE" for views.
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BiggerBoat posted:Why is it never god's will when a hurricane levels Mississippi or Joe Biden beats Donald Trump?
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Kurzon posted:The classic Christian response is that hardship is part of God's Will. But yeah even then there is a lot of contradictory thinking. “Why would god do this thing to me?” Says person after horrible tragedy. “God moves in mysterious ways” says person who benefits from being socially allowed to interpret an imaginary beings motives. An omniscient and omnipotent god could find an infinite number of less harmful way to achieve the same effect but chooses not to. So either god is a dick or god is neither omnipotent or omniscient or doesn’t exist. So, if god is a dick who just likes to hurt people then why the gently caress would you worship that? If god is not omnipotent or omniscient the maybe don’t attribute things to a god that isn’t actually capable of those things and accept that god is a gently caress up. Or just knock it off altogether because it’s a fraudulent position. Murgos fucked around with this message at 13:03 on Jul 19, 2021 |
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Could god create a stone so heavy that even he could not lift it?
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