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Cythereal posted:Nah. In all seriousness it's actually working fine as a plane now. Yes, it was a huge and very successful grift project. But as a plane it's also been basically successful and is now operational, it just hasn't seen much use yet.
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Xander77 posted:Yeah, and the M-16 is a perfectly fine weapon, if you're picking it up in the 21st century. The Bradley performed well straight from getting fully adopted. Also, the guy who wrote Pentagon Wars? He was part of the "Reformers," whose predictions basically turned out to be consistently hilariously wrong. Like, those are the guys who thought that the F-15 would be too big, too complex and too ungainly to ever work as an air superiority fighter. (Their own idea of the ideal modern fighter was basically a lightened F-16 without the "dead weight" of an inbuilt radar engaging enemies with guns and short-range IR missiles only.) Who said the Abrams would just break down en masse and do worse on the battlefield than old M48s with some upgrades. And so on.
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Magni posted:The Bradley performed well straight from getting fully adopted. Also, the guy who wrote Pentagon Wars? He was part of the "Reformers," whose predictions basically turned out to be consistently hilariously wrong. Like, those are the guys who thought that the F-15 would be too big, too complex and too ungainly to ever work as an air superiority fighter. (Their own idea of the ideal modern fighter was basically a lightened F-16 without the "dead weight" of an inbuilt radar engaging enemies with guns and short-range IR missiles only.) Who said the Abrams would just break down en masse and do worse on the battlefield than old M48s with some upgrades. And so on. Lemme guess, Mike Sparks and Pierre Sprey are also involved with these people.
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GhostStalker posted:Lemme guess, Mike Sparks and Pierre Sprey are also involved with these people. Afaik Sprey was one of the more prominent people they brought out to argue their stuff. Sparky jumped on late, wasn't so much involved as he was just uncritically believing all their stuff and developing his own brand of crazy from there.
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MagusofStars posted:Part of the reason it hasn't seen much use yet is that the reliability of the F-35 is still way below par - the plane itself may run fine when it's running, but the Pentagon's own reliability numbers for the F-35 aren't what they need to be for it to achieve the intended goal of finally phasing out the decades-old A-10's and F-18's. I had the privilege of being in an F18E flying over the Labrador Sea near Greenland. It is the only experience of my life that I would qualify as 'awesome' and the reason why I don't like it when people use that word for commonplace things. It was literally an experience so incredible that it filled me with a breathless awe that I am incapable of describing in words.
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An update will take a little while longer (too hot brain not work good) but here's some audience participation to tide you over in the meantime. Duncan's once again grilling us about our shadowrunning motivations, so we can optionally add some more depth to the external motivation which we settled on being to find Raymond alive.  We can also rename our safeboat! Or keep it as the Bolthole.  No deadline or anything. Kanfy fucked around with this message at 09:05 on Jul 18, 2021 |
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Seeing the world how it really is. Let’s stick with Bolthole.
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Seeing the world how it really is. Big Texas. Kith fucked around with this message at 14:38 on Jul 18, 2021 |
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How it really is - and it's definitely the Bolthole.
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Bolthole and how the world really is works for me too. Although I also like to hurt people… for peace.
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see the world for how it truly works Big Texas is just too good to pass up, especially since we're from seattle and living in China
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Seeing the world how it really is and Kraken Not just because it's a cool name, but also because this rusty tub of ours seems like it could start crackin' apart at any moment. 
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I find all the motives interesting but you can't polish a turd and call it a wedding cake. This boat is a Bolthole so love it for what it is.
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Yeah. Bolthole just feels so appropriate for that rustbucket of a ship (though it’s still OUR rustbucket, drat it).
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Seeing the world how it really is. Defiance.
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Usually I'd agree that Bolthole is just too appropriate to change but since we're already a ridiculous person named after instant ramen, I'd say Big Texas is a better fit in this circumstance.
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Can't put my finger on it Big Texas
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FoolyCharged posted:see the world for how it truly works
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Seeing the world how it really is And I gotta go with Bolthole, but only because Shithole isn't an option.
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Kith posted:Seeing the world how it really is. I changed my vote from Defiance to Big Texas because gently caress it, Big Texas rules.
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I don't know Kraken, because they live under the sea. 
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I went with Big Texas in my playthrough, so I'm voting differently here.Groetgaffel posted:Seeing the world how it really is and Kraken Backing this one. I agree with the character reason and I like the joke behind the boat name.
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Big Texas for the  valueAnd to see the world as it really is
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I don't know. Bolthole
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We want the FREEDOM to call the boat BIG TEXAS.
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The money and 
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Freedom and let's go with Kraken for that freedom seeking pirate flavor
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seein the world as how it really is - suffused w the magic power of instant noods. dont @ me 큰 택사스 (大德克萨斯)
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How it really is. The Kraken
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Note that in the event Bolthole doesn't win, I'd like to cast a second-place vote for Kraken.
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Seeing the world as it truly is Bolthole, because let's not get sentimental, really.
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GimmickMan posted:Usually I'd agree that Bolthole is just too appropriate to change but since we're already a ridiculous person named after instant ramen, I'd say Big Texas is a better fit in this circumstance.  It's what our lovely Stuffer Shack edible lifestyle demands. Also, being Shin Black, I feel it is our destiny to hurt people for money, even if that's mildly out of character.
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The Truth The Dowager Empress
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Every time I played this game, I told myself I'd go with something else than Big Texas next time. It never worked. Big Texas. And thrill seeking I guess.
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The Truth is that we're calling this ship the Big Texas.
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Big Texas is the obvious headquarters for our Hong Kong adventure
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Seeing the world how it really is. Defiance
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How it really is and Big Texas 
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