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Breaking: Labour Party to rebrand as “Tory party, but not as mean”
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It's all so frustrating, because anyone who isn't a fool can see that there's no path to a Labour victory that doesn't involve replicating 2017 and then building on it. All this twatting around with factional bullshit is just damaging the party beyond repair. Idiots.
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Jul 18, 2021 22:05
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Drone_Fragger posted:Breaking: Labour Party to rebrand as “Tory party, but not as mean” The strong/wealthy do as they wish, the weak/poor endure as they must. Not seeing much change it things... strangely ambivalent about humanity atm for some reason. 
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Jul 18, 2021 22:07
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That a majority of people are entirely willing to kill people for fun as long as they don't think it will be them, is evident from the past few decades of governments they have voted for, but I continue to think that it is a bad idea and we should avoid doing it.
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Jul 18, 2021 22:11
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https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/jul/18/what-is-pegasus-spyware-and-how-does-it-hack-phonesquote:
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Jul 18, 2021 22:19
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Horrifying phone malware. Presumably 90 percent of the data harvested are cat pics. 
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Jul 18, 2021 22:27
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Drone_Fragger posted:Breaking: Labour Party to rebrand as “Tory party, but not as mean”
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Jul 18, 2021 22:52
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Preferably on Flamborough Head.
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Jul 18, 2021 22:57
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Wales is not on the Danish red list but the rest of the UK is from 17th July. Not sure how that will work! I'm not aware of direct flights to Denmark from a Welsh airport so how would you prove you're from Wales not England? quote:
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/denmark
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Jul 18, 2021 22:59
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/jul/18/what-is-pegasus-spyware-and-how-does-it-hack-phones the story about the mexican journalist just chilling in a hammock hidden awayfrom the street as assassins pinpoint his phone position and then murder him is chilling
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Jul 18, 2021 23:36
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Tomberforce posted:Yeah I'm British and live in Australia and today heard that my Gran's dementia is taking a turn for the worse back home at about the same time that I heard that Katie loving Hopkins was allowed in to piss around in Australian hotel quarantine. Pretty loving livid about it to be honest. You’ll be pleased to know that if you *do* decide to come back to the UK briefly there’s a good chance you’ll be on the same flight as Hatey Hopkins. She’s being deported.
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Jul 19, 2021 06:22
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Can anyone explain the following? https://twitter.com/DanPriceSeattle/status/1416879092020957187?s=19 I'm not saying I don't believe it, since capitalism is so hosed it sounds about right. But then why levy the £1.25m fine in judgement if they can't pay it?
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Jul 19, 2021 07:23
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Can anyone explain the following? I think they are confusing a fine (a penalty levied by a government) with an award given by a jury in a civil lawsuit. But I haven’t read the article. Nope, I’m wrong. I thought I should read the article. It’s even worse than it seems: quote:An E.E.O.C. lawyer declined to comment, but the agency’s website notes that compensatory and punitive damages are capped at $300,000 for employers with more 500 workers. therattle fucked around with this message at 08:03 on Jul 19, 2021 |
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Jul 19, 2021 07:58
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There was a big push in the 90s and 2000s for "tort reform", which is to say restricting what you can get in awards to certain (often very low) caps. It was just greedy people trying to get a free buck out of hard-working companies and their scummy, ambulance-chasing lawyers that were the issue. Corporations pushed this line extremely hard, as well as making sure that the 'McDonalds coffee lady' was the butt of every joke possible for years.
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Jul 19, 2021 08:07
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Pistol_Pete posted:It's all so frustrating, because anyone who isn't a fool can see that there's no path to a Labour victory that doesn't involve replicating 2017 and then building on it. All this twatting around with factional bullshit is just damaging the party beyond repair. Idiots. Tony Blair came right out and said that he'd prefer Labor to lose to the Tories than win with a leftist leader / agenda. Scratch a liberal and you'll find a fascist, every time.
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Jul 19, 2021 08:13
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Catpetter1981 posted:Tony Blair came right out and said that he'd prefer Labor to lose to the Tories than win with a leftist leader / agenda. I don’t actually think that’s true, nor helpful
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Jul 19, 2021 08:20
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I rarely need to contact my GP, but I've got a foot I can barely walk around on that is throbbing and generally very painful. So I called my practice - oh, they've moved, here's the new phone number said twice very quickly before I could even find a loving pen. No big deal, find a pen, call back, make a note of the new number. Phone the new number - "we've got a new system for booking or requesting appointments, use [______]". Fine, find the webpage online, spend 5 minutes looking for the right link because they set the loving banner as the link because they're loving idiots (or I'm a loving idiot; either one). Put my details in to register with the system - "oh, your practice isn't set up on this system". Phone the practice back and choose the option that lets me speak with a person - "oh, our system doesn't book appointments before 10am, please phone back then". Is it just me or does this seem like nothing less than a way of funneling patients away from GP services and towards A&E/Urgent Care? I'm not going to go to the local Walk-In Centre or A&E because I've got a very painful foot, but I couldn't blame anyone who did if this is what they have to go through.
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Jul 19, 2021 08:21
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therattle posted:I don’t actually think that’s true, nor helpful It's been shown time and again that given the choice, liberals will always side with the right wing over the left.
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Jul 19, 2021 08:26
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Current state of play with my GP is you start ringing at just before 8am and you are lucky as hell if you manage to get through and onto the hold music before half 8- I have hit seventy+ attempts in a morning only to be told there's no appointments left, ring back tomorrow. If you do get through, you are asked if it's urgent or not. If it's not and you are honest, they will set you up with a non urgent appointment with a wait of 4 to 5 weeks- if you don't mind seeing a locum doctor This morning I near crapped myself when I got through first time, a few minutes before they officially opened the lines
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Jul 19, 2021 08:34
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kingturnip posted:I rarely need to contact my GP, but I've got a foot I can barely walk around on that is throbbing and generally very painful. I had a similar experience where I was told no fewer than three different procedures for becoming a temporary patient only to be told finally that I couldn’t make an appointment as a temporary resident anyway lol
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Jul 19, 2021 08:37
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Mebh posted:Presumably 90 percent of the data harvested are cat pics. No, it's a big deal. They have 50,000 phone numbers targeted by a tool marketed for anti-terrorism and they are all journalists, lawyers, activists all that. Jamal Khashoggi's family is on the list. I would be amazed if the guardian aren't holding back the UK phone numbers. Fully expecting to see hacking by the home office of XR, momentum, gently caress knows who else for a later dump. jiggerypokery fucked around with this message at 08:50 on Jul 19, 2021 |
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Jul 19, 2021 08:46
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I rang my GP last week after 3 days of stinging headaches. Can't book through website, phone only: rang around 3pm, waited 20 mins on hold only to be smugly told 'try again tomorrow at either 8am/1pm, goodbye'. I got through within 5 minutes next day despite being caller 11 at 8 on the dot, but is it too difficult to put this info on the website/automatic phone message? They've been good otherwise - GP called back at 930am, then asked me to come down in person. I didn't say it was urgent but I did firmly say I want an appointment today, so keep that in mind.
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Jul 19, 2021 08:47
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111 has basically turned into WebMD at this point, if there's the slightest possibility that it might involve chest pain they send me to A&E where an exhausted looking consultant takes my pulse and a blood test and then I go home feeling like I wasted everyone's time. therattle posted:Nope, I’m wrong. I thought I should read the article. It’s even worse than it seems:
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Jul 19, 2021 08:55
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jiggerypokery posted:No, it's a big deal. They have 50,000 phone numbers targeted by a tool marketed for anti-terrorism and they are all journalists, lawyers, activists all that. The Guardian won't release any thing embarrassing to the British state any more. Bobby Deluxe posted:111 has basically turned into WebMD at this point, if there's the slightest possibility that it might involve chest pain they send me to A&E where an exhausted looking consultant takes my pulse and a blood test and then I go home feeling like I wasted everyone's time. It's a structural problem now - GPs are non functional so urgent issues get escalated to emergency priority which is why they say go to A&E which is overloading them.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-57883692quote:Katie Hopkins to be deported from Australia over quarantine rules
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Jul 19, 2021 09:41
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Why did we never think of deporting her?
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Jul 19, 2021 09:45
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stev posted:Why did we never think of deporting her? White
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Jul 19, 2021 09:45
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Could use the Shamima Begum logic Mr Brit-urns: "We are taking away Hopkins' British citizenship" Smithers: "But sir, won't that leave her stateless" MB: "No, she can have Australian citizenship" Australia: "What? No, we don't want her, she's just a visitor" MB: "Yep...a good old Australian citizen" (dusts hands completionally)
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Jul 19, 2021 09:49
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Hello it's me the defender of western morality indecently exposing myself to hotel staff.
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Jul 19, 2021 09:50
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Aphex- posted:It's been shown time and again that given the choice, liberals will always side with the right wing over the left. That may be true, and even if it is, not all right-wingers are fascists. I don't know, it just seems like making blanket statements like that and equating all liberals with rightwingers and calling all of them fascists is basically othering. I don't think it's helpful. It also diminishes the value of a term like fascist, which has a specific meaning. I love that Hopkins actually got to sign a contract and go to Australia, and then get deported. It's much better than not having been granted a visa in the first place. Bobby Deluxe posted:
Yeah, and the limit only applies to larger companies. A small company which maybe can't afford it can be liable for an unlimited amount but larger ones get it capped. It's so brazen. therattle fucked around with this message at 10:02 on Jul 19, 2021 |
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Jul 19, 2021 09:59
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I have a job organising events and having a bit of a mare wondering how to do it safely - but theres also a bit of an ethical thing in it, as it seems daft to me we are holding any public events at the moment with no masks or restrictions or anything (or at least it being up to the person). Especially as most of the events we're planning also happen to be for groups most vulnerable to covid. I've been isolating for ages, always mask up, socially distant etc. so it seems counterintuitive I'm planning events for over a hundred people to take place in a couple of weeks that I wouldn't feel comfortable attending myself. Trying to work out a way I can convince various people that this is a bad idea. More like FreeDon't day, rite?
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Jul 19, 2021 10:02
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therattle posted:That may be true, and even if it is, not all right-wingers are fascists. I don't know, it just seems like making blanket statements like that and equating all liberals with rightwingers and calling all of them fascists is basically othering. I don't think it's helpful. It also diminishes the value of a term like fascist, which has a specific meaning. Yes, it does, and if you've been paying attention the last few years you'll recognise that our current right wing parties are it. Brexit has at one point or another met all fourteen of the criteria for a fascist movement as laid out by Eco.
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Jul 19, 2021 10:09
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quote:All one can do for the moment is to use the word with a certain amount of circumspection and not, as is usually done, degrade it to the level of a swearword.
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Jul 19, 2021 10:21
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Jedit posted:Yes, it does, and if you've been paying attention the last few years you'll recognise that our current right wing parties are it. Brexit has at one point or another met all fourteen of the criteria for a fascist movement as laid out by Eco. There are certainly strong elements of fascism on the right (hello, Priti!) but not all rightwingers are fascists. For instance, I don't think that the One Nation Tories are really fascist. Indeed. Unsurprisingly Orwell states it better than I possibly could. therattle fucked around with this message at 10:24 on Jul 19, 2021 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkY88kvkdvU
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Jul 19, 2021 10:27
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Jul 19, 2021 10:28
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I'd say grassing up commies to british intelligence was a pretty fascist thing to do but then I don't know words as good as Mr Animal Farm CIA adaptation throaty McHurty. I haven't even forgiven the socdems for Rosa, liberals are going to have to get in the queue.
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Jul 19, 2021 10:29
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He's not wrong.
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Jul 19, 2021 10:30
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If you're a small c tory or lib who wilfully ignores actual fash in your party, then you are also fash. To the wall with the lot.
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Does anyone know where I'd stand when living in Wales, working in England, when Wales' directive is still 'work from home if you can.'? I guess the 'if you can' is the sticking point... my work is being pretty lovely about saying 'you have to come back to the office', so it seems it's up to them, rather than me, whether I 'can' work from home. Even aside from covid, i'm really hosed off about having to shove my laptop into a backpack and jump on a train for a lengthy and pricy commute to do the exact same thing that i've been doing perfectly fine for over a year. So I'm desperate to avoid it if I can.
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