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Jay_Zombie posted:2nd'ed. It's a hidden gem of a movie. Europa Report is loving great, I consider it as close as we’re likely ever going to get for a ‘2061’ movie.
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Xenomrph posted:Europa Report is loving great, I consider it as close as we’re likely ever going to get for a ‘2061’ movie. It really is. I also kind of enjoyed Stowaway for what it was.
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Jay_Zombie posted:Some things never change. 
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Jay_Zombie posted:Been getting my rear end kicked around for like the last year and a half straight... but I'm still thinkin' bout thos Aliens. Robocop hornyposting? When is there horniness in - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfIH9VnuCUQ …oh yeah.
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I'd buy that for a dollar!
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I wanted to find a "I admire it's purity" pic for some post in another thread and this randomly popped up. edit: also this lol 
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Class Warcraft posted:Paul Reiser did such an awesome job. He’s so believably weasely. My favorite little details are his outfit like he’s going camping and his little nervous tics like touching his face when he’s lying or uncomfortable. One detail I love is when Ripley video calls Burke to confirm they're gonna destroy the alien and not bring it back. He gives his word but as he does his mouth is completely out of the frame. I believe this was a deliberate choice by whomever--the actor, director, editor. It is very common for a liar to cover their mouth when they know they're telling a lie. Just google "liar cover mouth" to see it discussed at length.
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Paul Reiser is an underrated actor. I haven't seen him in a lot but he's excellent and I loved him as a kid in My Two Dads and Mad About You.
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I wish I could find a clip of it on YouTube but there was a bit in Mad About You where Paul Reiser walks in on Helen Hunt watching ‘Aliens’ and she asks him if he’s seen it, and he replies that he only saw the first movie.  https://twitter.com/paulreiser/status/880437760892579844?s=21
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Xenomrph posted:I wish I could find a clip of it on YouTube but there was a bit in Mad About You where Paul Reiser walks in on Helen Hunt watching ‘Aliens’ and she asks him if he’s seen it, and he replies that he only saw the first movie. 
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Class Warcraft posted:Paul Reiser did such an awesome job. He’s so believably weasely. My favorite little details are his outfit like he’s going camping and his little nervous tics like touching his face when he’s lying or uncomfortable. Holy poo poo thank you. Something about his clothing always rubbed me the wrong way and I couldn't ever put my finger on it, but this is exactly it. He's dressed like he's going on a corporate retreat out on the lake at the beginning of Labor Day weekend.
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Well... he did suggest that they "build a campfire and sing some songs", after the landing craft crashed, so maybe he just really likes camping. Maybe Burke was just a sad lonely ex-boyscout desperately trying to relive his jamboree days and trying to earn his "Use subterfuge to forcibly impregnate an unwilling host with an alien parasite" merit badge. Jay_Zombie fucked around with this message at 09:17 on Jul 17, 2021 |
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Jay_Zombie posted:Well... he did suggest that they "build a campfire and sing some songs", after the landing craft crashed, so maybe he just really likes camping. This theory is really coming together
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SilvergunSuperman posted:This theory is really coming together Alternative theory: He dresses like a pampered little white collar wuss who's desperately trying to relate to the common folk by dressing as blue collar as possible (or what he thinks blue collar looks like) with brand new clothes he just bought at Walmart. It wouldn't surprise me if that vest still has the price tag on it somewhere.
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Jay_Zombie posted:Alternative theory: FTFY
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Kinda reminds me of someone...
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Sunswipe posted:Kinda reminds me of someone... 
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My mind went to those doofus Don Jr pics, but yep that fits as well.
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Sunswipe posted:Kinda reminds me of someone... *Tucker picks up a measuring tape* what...are...you?
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Billion people harvest on mars.
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Mars will never be free until the sands run red with Earther blood.
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Spacegrass posted:Billion people harvest on mars. Rebuild the remnants of the obelisk, one mile from the pyramid.
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Hey fellow Xenocinephiles, thanks to whichever of you recommended Outland. I’d never heard of it before this thread, but my wife and I just finished watching it and really enjoyed it. It definitely bites some of Alien’s rhyme, in terms of the “used future” and “space trucker” aesthetic plus the plot point of an utterly amoral “Company” that considers its workers expendable, however it’s also a neat space western. Plus I think they did a great job with what looked like a limited special effects budget, and the set design was solid. Space speed, not even once. Xenomrph posted:Europa Report is loving great, I consider it as close as we’re likely ever going to get for a ‘2061’ movie. Okay now I HAVE to watch it. 2061 is possibly my favorite of that series.
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Iron Crowned posted:FTFY 
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SilvergunSuperman posted:Outland had an $18 mil budget in fuckin 1981? Wait really? I wonder where it went—I guess the sets, those we’re pretty cool.
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Owlbear Camus posted:Absolutely. I get powerful United Fruit type vibes off the whole setup. While the Colonial Marine Technical Manual is semi-canon, this is basically how a lot of the USCM's campaigns are described...   Apollodorus posted:Hey fellow Xenocinephiles, thanks to whichever of you recommended Outland. I’d never heard of it before this thread, but my wife and I just finished watching it and really enjoyed it. My favorite tidbit about this is that the first casualty to Space Meth is John Ratzenberger i.e. Cliff Clavin from Cheers...  Since we were talking how the Marines and W-Y and other corps interact with one another, there's a similar setup with ConAm and the Federal Marshalls, where the Marshalls are the government and, nominally, ConAm is to follow the law, but the reality is that money talks out in the frontier and the Marshalls, much like the Marines, are not supposed to antagonize the corporations in doing whatever the hell they want. Apollodorus posted:Wait really? The suits, too. Pretty much custom-made, unlike a lot of British-based science fiction, which reused a lot of surplus pressure suits, fluid cooling suits, and the like. Even something like Star Wars used RAF hand-me-downs, as can be seen with the rebel pilots and Bossk wearing Windak high-altitude pressure suits from the 1960s. Apparently, the Outland suits appeared in other productions, most notably, Red Dwarf. BTW, I've been thinking about the xenomorphs recently, especially with the Alien TV series on everyone's minds. I had recently read some background on the Weyland-Yutani team at the end of Alien 3 and supposedly, the company could extrapolate enough data from Ripley's Nostromo statement and maybe the mission logs from the encounter at Hadley's Hope to develop counter tactics against the xenomorph, namely the Apesuit, an acid-proof body armor with face shields to prevent facehuggers from getting a grip. It had made me initially wonder the feasibility of even weaponizing the xenomorphs, especially in an corporate ecosystem that can develop and distribute weaponry rapidly. Like WY develops the xenomorph into a reliable bioweapon, there's nothing stopping a competitor to developing and fielding a synths or a cyborg or a mech suit that counters them, especially something that ends up cheaper (since pretty much all attempts to get to the "reliable" part fail). And a synth can't be impregnated (and it's very likely a full-body cyborg wouldn't either, especially without organic lungs). poo poo, the Aliens comics are filled with combat synths, a few of which are acid-proof and super-strong. And we've seen what a disorganized, under-armed squad can do to them, what happens if a competent commander with troops who know what they're getting into instead of a rookie butter-bar with a skeleton crew second-guessing his senior non-com and the testimony of an outside consultant? What happens if you got people uploading the lifecycle of a xenomorph onto Youtube, causing everyone to start developing countermeasures to stop them? But then it got me thinking that, maybe, they're not going to use this against another corporation or other world/space power: the xenomorphs are a counter-insurgency weapon, they'll unleash them on rebellious colony worlds, ???, and profit. Maybe W-Y sends in specialist squads then bills Colonial Administration, maybe they nuke the site from orbit and drop another terraformer or something, there's probably a dozen scenarios where W-Y makes a profit off putting down the insurgency with xenomorphs, writes off whatever down there as a loss, then makes another profit clearing out the xenos and/or rebuilding. Also, a thing that's been getting to me after a rewatch is how "a million dollars" is considered by a lot of money back in 1986: the Nostromo and cargo cost $42 million in adjusted dollars, the terraformer was a multi-million dollar installation, the xenos could have made the bioweapons division millions. A million dollars is still a lot of money, but I kind of like the idea that W-Y bioweapons division is such a small-time that other divisions can see billion dollar profits off pharmaceutical research or metamaterials. Young Freud fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Jul 19, 2021 |
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Young Freud posted:My favorite tidbit about this is that [spoiler]the first casualty to Space Meth is ... Who also was in Empire Strikes Back, Superman 1 and 2. You would think you would recognize him anywhere from the main thing he was known for, but hes good as being generic.
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happyhippy posted:Who also was in Empire Strikes Back, Superman 1 and 2. He did a good chunk of '70s and '80s films, especially if they were shot in England, like A Bridge Too Far. I recall the Aliens' cast talking about the North American Registry for Actors' Equity in the UK, basically a list of American actors who could perform in England, so English actors weren't losing out to these American imports whenever a movie was shot. And, since a lot of big budget movies were shot in Pinewood Studios during that period, so if you wanted to get authentic Americans in a Pinewood-shot scene for a film, you were limited to that North American Registry. It's why guys like Ratzenberger and William "Porkins" Hootkin were in so many big budget films at the time. I'd imagine that if Cheers hadn't taken off, we would have gotten Ratzenberger as Van Leuwen or one of the W-Y or Colonial Administration suits or Bishop or one of the Colonial Marines.
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Young Freud posted:It had made me initially wonder the feasibility of even weaponizing the xenomorphs, especially in an corporate ecosystem that can develop and distribute weaponry rapidly. Like WY develops the xenomorph into a reliable bioweapon, there's nothing stopping a competitor to developing and fielding a synths or a cyborg or a mech suit that counters them, especially something that ends up cheaper (since pretty much all attempts to get to the "reliable" part fail). Does WY even have a competitor? They seem pretty dominant in the media I can think of, but xenomorphs are kind of their pet obsession, so the stories tend to have a limited focus. Guess it is possible that General Farms is the big dog wherever the other side of the galactic ring is, they are just too far out to hear about.
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Anyone have any suggestions for Alien audiobooks on Audible? I signed up for it, not sure why, and have a new credit this month.
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The ‘Aliens’ novelization is narrated by William Hope (the actor who played Gorman) if you want to listen to ‘Aliens’ while you think about ‘Aliens’. Other than that, any of the audio dramas are worth your time.
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Anyone have any suggestions for Alien audiobooks on Audible? I signed up for it, not sure why, and have a new credit this month. There are three Alien audio dramas that are more like listening to a movie than an audio book, which is pretty cool: Out of the Shadows River of Pain Sea of Sorrows
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Claeaus posted:There are three Alien audio dramas that are more like listening to a movie than an audio book, which is pretty cool:
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