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If they gently caress up the mcu Thing, the entire FF movie will fall apart. That rocky boy is marvels soul
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Jul 18, 2021 05:17
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Give me the corny “60s Super-Science of Tomorrow!” FF we deserve.  It’s still kind of amazing that the best FF film remains the zero-budget entry that couldn’t even bother with ADR’ing Doom and was never meant to be seen. It’s not even a close contest.
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Jul 18, 2021 06:36
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Arist posted:I very distinctly remember a scene where you see Reed gently caress with his face using his stretching powers, but I cannot find any evidence of this happening now that I'm checking and I feel like I'm losing my mind Maybe you’re remembering the better movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4Rd8x4z-e0
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Jul 18, 2021 06:41
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Give me the corny “60s Super-Science of Tomorrow!” FF we deserve. The best FF movie so far was The Incredibles Just make a movie with that vibe, set in the 60s.
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Jul 18, 2021 07:24
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Nah, set it modern day. Doom is now a Bezos or Brandson type, and the crew is the FF.
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Jul 18, 2021 12:08
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The FF as the low level scientists whose work is stolen by the techbro ceo who is really into magic and mysticism
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Jul 18, 2021 12:28
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Though I feel like Doom would just make his beard-shaving amulet himself
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Jul 18, 2021 15:26
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In my head Doom is Putin in the MCU. Say Latveria was a small, obscure nation neighboring Sokovia, and a charismatic young monarch took advantage of that situation as well as the vacuum then left by the snap to annex the land, and also was able to get all the Ultron tech there to work, adapting it into an army of robots he gave his own face to keep control and secure the borders.
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Jul 18, 2021 16:46
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Honestly I wouldn't put it past them to do Doom as the upstart ruler of New Sokovia. Using sorcery and supertech to accelerate the recovery process earns him the undying loyalty of the surviving populace, he's got an easy target to paint on superhero backs for "not doing enough during the Ultron event." Heck, we know Sokovia had baronies at the least, so it having a monarchical structure and Doom being in the line of succession would just make sense.
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Jul 18, 2021 17:32
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thunderbolts: zemo vs doom
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Jul 18, 2021 17:34
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theironjef posted:Honestly I wouldn't put it past them to do Doom as the upstart ruler of New Sokovia. Using sorcery and supertech to accelerate the recovery process earns him the undying loyalty of the surviving populace, he's got an easy target to paint on superhero backs for "not doing enough during the Ultron event." Heck, we know Sokovia had baronies at the least, so it having a monarchical structure and Doom being in the line of succession would just make sense.
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Jul 18, 2021 17:38
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FlamingLiberal posted:Just got back from seeing Black Widow. My non-spoiler thoughts are that it was better than I thought it would be (which I think is due to the very strong cast), and that this version of Taskmaster suuuucked. Could be worse. Could have been the original.
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Jul 18, 2021 17:41
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Why are people so up in arms over the cover?
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Jul 18, 2021 17:43
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Rhyno posted:Why are people so up in arms over the cover? Because it was goddamn interminable
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Jul 18, 2021 17:47
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Rhyno posted:Why are people so up in arms over the cover?
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Jul 18, 2021 17:48
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Rhyno posted:Why are people so up in arms over the cover? Because slow sad girl covers of upbeat songs in movies and video games is a horribly overused cliche in 2021. E: Here's a list of thirty of them- https://screencrush.com/movie-trailers-sad-covers/ https://screencrush.com/more-trailers-with-sad-cover-songs/
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Jul 18, 2021 17:53
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theironjef posted:Honestly I wouldn't put it past them to do Doom as the upstart ruler of New Sokovia. Using sorcery and supertech to accelerate the recovery process earns him the undying loyalty of the surviving populace, he's got an easy target to paint on superhero backs for "not doing enough during the Ultron event." Heck, we know Sokovia had baronies at the least, so it having a monarchical structure and Doom being in the line of succession would just make sense. Or have Latveria and Sokovia be neighbors and Doom decides to "help" Sokovia by turning it into a puppet state or outright annexing it.
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Jul 18, 2021 18:19
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FlamingLiberal posted:Because it sucks Everything sucks. I've seen some people getting really loving weird about it.
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Jul 18, 2021 18:27
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MH Knights posted:Or have Latveria and Sokovia be neighbors and Doom decides to "help" Sokovia by turning it into a puppet state or outright annexing it. Zemo already stated something like how Sokovia got ravaged by neighbor countries/other countries after the Age of Ultron events. Latveria being one of those countries makes sense.
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Jul 18, 2021 18:37
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FlamingLiberal posted:It would make a lot of sense to have Doom in Sokovia instead of Latveria, since Sokovia has already factored in so much to the MCU now I feel like they might want to stray away from everything somehow tying back to Sokovia. Then again, the MCU has no problem tying basically 80% of Spider-Man to Tony Stark so what do I know?
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Jul 18, 2021 19:33
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My idea for Doom when Boseman was still around was to introduce him in Black Panther 2 as a political peer to T'Challa. Another young ruler. Wakanda is rich and advanced, Latveria is poor and in need. Doom plays that angle asking for tech to help hem and T'challa is sympathetic. Of course over time we learn more about him, how he came to power, and what his ambitions are. So he's already established as a character and villain before he puts on armor. I wouldn't have even made him the villain of the Fantastic Four movie. I'd just have him there trying to get Reed's tech the same as Wakanda's and then introduce his armor in the mid credit scene or something. I thought it was a nice fit, a fun little nod to Black Panther/Fantastic Four and better than just rushing Doom. He's worthy of being a bigger villain. Now with BP's future so in the air I have no idea but I'd still like to see something along those lines. Maybe even have him pop up in Strange 2 to tease his magical interests (especially if you play the Sokovia/Wanda angle).
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Jul 18, 2021 19:48
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Vince MechMahon posted:In my head Doom is Putin in the MCU. Say Latveria was a small, obscure nation neighboring Sokovia, and a charismatic young monarch took advantage of that situation as well as the vacuum then left by the snap to annex the land, and also was able to get all the Ultron tech there to work, adapting it into an army of robots he gave his own face to keep control and secure the borders. So doom is a product of the American empire's destruction and exploitation of Europe. 
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Jul 18, 2021 20:20
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They will inadvertently make doom a hero like they did to zemo, but have to make him do something "bad" because corporate liberal feudalism is the only way.
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Jul 18, 2021 20:26
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Rhyno posted:Why are people so up in arms over the cover? People think the song's untouchable given the circumstances (but the guy who wrote it hated it.)
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Jul 18, 2021 20:31
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I don't care about the song itself or the fact that there is a cover. I just think it was an awkward fit given the context that felt like it was trying to capture the time period more than the stuff on screen. It was too on the nose in the way that seems very common lately like with Snyder using Zombie. I don't think its a big deal. Its early and quick and I forgot about it 15 minutes later. But it was silly.
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Jul 18, 2021 20:34
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STAC Goat posted:My idea for Doom when Boseman was still around was to introduce him in Black Panther 2 as a political peer to T'Challa. Another young ruler. Wakanda is rich and advanced, Latveria is poor and in need. Doom plays that angle asking for tech to help hem and T'challa is sympathetic. Of course over time we learn more about him, how he came to power, and what his ambitions are. So he's already established as a character and villain before he puts on armor. I wouldn't have even made him the villain of the Fantastic Four movie. I'd just have him there trying to get Reed's tech the same as Wakanda's and then introduce his armor in the mid credit scene or something. The rumour is that Namor's basically filling that role in the new one, playing off the Atlantis/Wakanda conflicts from the last decade or so of comics. I do like the idea of Doom's emergence on the world stage being annexing Sokovia. The impression I get is that Sokovia's meant to be around where Czechoslovakia or Hungary is. Hence a western Germanic part where Zemo's from, and an eastern more Slavic side where the Maximoffs were.
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Jul 18, 2021 21:19
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For the love of god stop setting things in the 60s I am so tired of that boomer-rear end fiction of a decade
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Jul 18, 2021 21:48
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Make doom the leader of a carribbean country that has had decades of relative prosperity in the face of adversity, but because 60 years ago an older leader kicked out the oppressors and slavers doom is bad.
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Jul 18, 2021 21:56
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Aphrodite posted:People think the song's untouchable given the circumstances (but the guy who wrote it hated it.) So did the guy that listened to it. (I'm that guy)
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Jul 19, 2021 01:23
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To be honest, I usually can't stand those whispery wistful sad girl covers that appear in every movie/trailer/TV show nowadays but that one didn't bother me, I thought it was fine. The Zombie cover in Army of the Dead was way worse in my opinion because not only was it horrible and a bit on the nose, the original would have worked just as good if not better. Like they went out of their way to be corny.
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Jul 19, 2021 02:57
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Mr Hootington posted:Make doom the leader of a carribbean country that has had decades of relative prosperity in the face of adversity, but because 60 years ago an older leader kicked out the oppressors and slavers doom is bad. You are trying really hard to get preemptively angry about the idea that a murderous dictator who actively does horrifying things and has tried to take over or destroy the entire universe of multiple occasions might in fact be a bad person. American Bad doesn't mean you have to stan for the dude who was perfectly fine with total atrocities.
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ImpAtom posted:You are trying really hard to get preemptively angry about the idea that a murderous dictator who actively does horrifying things and has tried to take over or destroy the entire universe of multiple occasions might in fact be a bad person. American Bad doesn't mean you have to stan for the dude who was perfectly fine with total atrocities. I think they're making an America Bad about Cuba actually.
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mycot posted:I think they're making an America Bad about Cuba actually. No, they are basically going "Actually Dr. Doom is basically Cuba right??" which is immensely offensive on like nine different levels.
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As it stands Doom would be the result of a post snap power vacuum which would be retreading ground covered by the flag smashers or sokovia which is retreading Zemo. Doom would be more analogous to Erdoğan or MBS with an Iron Man suit. If you want to get real spicy Doom could be the latest in the line of "government in exile" type with ambitions of reconquerering their homeland like the Republic of China or whatever is claiming Iran at the moment. Edit: it is hard for me to imagine a Doom running around the current MCU that isn't the direct result of the black ops poo poo the avengers do. Mr Hootington fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Jul 19, 2021 |
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Jul 19, 2021 12:53
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Should have used a slow, sad version of "Hallelujah" imo.
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ImpAtom posted:You are trying really hard to get preemptively angry about the idea that a murderous dictator who actively does horrifying things and has tried to take over or destroy the entire universe of multiple occasions might in fact be a bad person. American Bad doesn't mean you have to stan for the dude who was perfectly fine with total atrocities. Movie Doom ≠ Comic Doom. The character does not exist. My speculation of what Doom can or could be is no different from speculating he is a Putin or Bezos type. You need to chill out.
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Endless Mike posted:Should have used a slow, sad version of "Hallelujah" imo. Should have been Radioactive.
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Jul 19, 2021 13:51
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If they want to do a more sympathetic Doom you do the thing the ultimate version does where he starts out as the organizer of a tent community of poor and discriminated against people that eventually runs a revolution and in the process becomes everything he hated.
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Vince MechMahon posted:If they want to do a more sympathetic Doom you do the thing the ultimate version does where he starts out as the organizer of a tent community of poor and discriminated against people that eventually runs a revolution and in the process becomes everything he hated. Yeah but then gets horse legs and that was dumb as poo poo.
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