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Gort posted:We had 54,349 new infections two days ago. That's my point, today there's 15k less. I'm saying the finals were a Christmas like event. A spike, which doesn't help, but not the trend. I'm saying the 7 day moving average might return to it's slow increase after the vertical line cause by last week. I'm sure today will gently caress it up but I feel weirdly less doomed. Szmitten fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Jul 19, 2021 |
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Theres always a reporting lag after the weekend.
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Jul 19, 2021 16:35
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keep punching joe posted:Theres always a reporting lag after the weekend. That's the deaths tho.
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Jul 19, 2021 16:37
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Szmitten posted:That's my point, today there's 15k less. I'm saying the finals were a Christmas like event. A spike, which doesn't help, but not the trend. 170,000 maskless people clapped and cheered for the carers at silverstone on Sunday
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Jul 19, 2021 16:37
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:How was the film? It's on round here next week. My favourite thing about Harold was how his on-screen love interest was played by his real world wife.
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Jul 19, 2021 16:38
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when I see the actor who plays Harold Finch in other things (often a psycho-baddy) I'm like 'now now Harold'.
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The entire graph is riddled with small dips that then get overtaken as the numbers increase. Like on July 9th we had 35,221, then on July 10th we had 31,921, which someone somewhere probably looked at and went, "Hey, infections are dropping!", but by the 13th we'd beaten the numbers on the 9th. The important figure to look at is the 7-day moving average, which is soaring. Gort fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Jul 19, 2021 |
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Jul 19, 2021 16:39
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Szmitten posted:That's my point, today there's 15k less. I'm saying the finals were a Christmas like event. A spike, which doesn't help, but not the trend. Now imagine all the people just that spike will infect.
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Jul 19, 2021 16:42
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There was someone in here on the 16th of last month arguing the "cautious optimism" thing and now we've got six times as many active COVID cases as we did then.
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Jul 19, 2021 16:43
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And the 7 day average for deaths is still 40. We don't panic over other disease numbers, why are we about covid?
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Jul 19, 2021 16:46
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Gort posted:We had 54,349 new infections two days ago. The worst ever day was 67,803 back on the 8th of January, and I wouldn't be surprised to see us beat that in a week or two. https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/testing Szmitten posted:I'm saying the finals were a Christmas like event.  people did get drunk and then racist.
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Jul 19, 2021 16:49
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Why are people protesting in London? I don't get it....
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Gort posted:There was someone in here on the 16th of last month arguing the "cautious optimism" thing and now we've got six times as many active COVID cases as we did then. I think the optimism was more about ‘who cares about infections if it isn’t killing people’. Long COVID/mutation being the obvious counter to that. I’ve stopped bothering to have an opinion either way.
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Jul 19, 2021 16:50
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Jakabite posted:I think the optimism was more about ‘who cares about infections if it isn’t killing people’. Long COVID/mutation being the obvious counter to that. I’ve stopped bothering to have an opinion either way. They were specifically arguing that the infection numbers were going to decrease along with the other "why worry" arguments quote:Yes, the average is still rising but if you look at the individual days from 09 - 15 June, it has in fact levelled off.
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Jul 19, 2021 16:52
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fuctifino posted:Why are people protesting in London? I don't get it.... Because Facebook told them that the vaccines contain chips that connect to the 5G network (and will kill them within 2 years).
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fuctifino posted:Why are people protesting in London? I don't get it.... AFAICT people are upset that the government is leaving in place some recommendations eg keeping your distance and masks indoors, even though legally people can do what they want. That and TFL still requires masks.
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fuctifino posted:Here's Hatie Hopkins being deported from Australia while being forced to wear a mask it's lucky for her that Australia is being locked down, because otherwise there would be hundreds of people there mocking her and probably singing Bananarama
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Nothingtoseehere posted:And the 7 day average for deaths is still 40. We don't panic over other disease numbers, why are we about covid? That's four times higher than it was a month ago, and deaths always lag behind infection numbers. It's not a case of panicking, it's a case of seeing hundreds of thousands of needless deaths and a lack of prudent action to stop it.
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Nothingtoseehere posted:And the 7 day average for deaths is still 40. We don't panic over other disease numbers, why are we about covid? Because death isn't the only negative consequence of covid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC6NJrKqCtI&t=60s
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Jul 19, 2021 16:57
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keep punching joe posted:Because Facebook told them that the vaccines contain chips that connect to the 5G network (and will kill them within 2 years). Is this another try hard gastro pub innovation like serving chips in quirky vessels?
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Gort posted:They were specifically arguing that the infection numbers were going to decrease along with the other "why worry" arguments I remember this conversation and my point like theirs isn't "they're decreasing" but "they're increasing at a slower rate." The finals induced a vertical increase which I too thought would be a trend but it looks like it's trying to revert to its original slow increase. Today probably fucks it and we'll never know but v  v let me see escape routes.
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Jul 19, 2021 16:58
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Szmitten posted:I remember this conversation and my point like theirs isn't "they're decreasing" but "they're increasing at a slower rate." And my point is that that proved not to be true, and there isn't anything in the current numbers to suggest that it'll be true now either. When we had that argument a month ago there were 165,957 active cases, and now there are more than five times that number. This is not a graph to be optimistic about. 
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Niric posted:Is this another try hard gastro pub innovation like serving chips in quirky vessels?
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Jul 19, 2021 17:03
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Niric posted:Is this another try hard gastro pub innovation like serving chips in quirky vessels? chips served in an upturned P3 mask.
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Jul 19, 2021 17:03
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blunt posted:why is there a lockdown protest? It's freedom day...
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Jul 19, 2021 17:03
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Settle in for a century of plague and you won't be disappointed imo Humans: we've got this sorted, we didn't have vaccines before Viruses: we've got this sorted, we didn't have aeroplanes before
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Jul 19, 2021 17:05
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Project for a New Infected Century
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Jul 19, 2021 17:06
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Oh good, covid certificates are to be compulsory for clubs and other indoor venues from September. Not now, in a couple of months when the horse has bolted, done a carpentry course and started its own business selling stable doors.
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Jul 19, 2021 17:15
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Kieth fans in my clp *hate* Kieth being called Kieth. Therefore, I shall double down, possibly with a totally fabricated salacious rumour. If LauraK can do it, so can I.
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ronya posted:Losurdo opens with this big attack on American presidents - Jefferson, Calhoun - and this is supposed to be a great surprise to the reader, like he's revealing some secret knowledge. But maybe it is not entirely taboo wisdom today? I wager that it isn't really revelatory to newly-engaged-with-politics types, not the sort looking for Verso Books recs anyway. The only reason I cheekily suggested you'd not read it wasn't that you weren't converted to Stalinism, but dismissing it to "ah slaveholders, shocking" seems silly because certainly at my reading there wasn't really any attempt to present this fact as a shocker, even when Verso published it in 2011, long before BLM or Trump or any of that. Nobody buying that book in 2011 was shocked that Jefferson was loving garbage & kept slaves while being a leading liberal thinker of his day. Trickjaw posted:Kieth fans in my clp *hate* Kieth being called Kieth. Therefore, I shall double down, possibly with a totally fabricated salacious rumour. If LauraK can do it, so can I. Sounds antisemitic OP. Sounds you should get purges
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Jul 19, 2021 17:25
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 I'd steal this, but I fear my clp 8s to far gone. They'd hunt me down and make me eat hummus and guac. Which, is, on balance, the most useful thing they could loving do.e: Forky, ok. I admit it. I ghost wrote Mein Kampf. Trickjaw fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Jul 19, 2021 |
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Oh good, covid certificates are to be compulsory for clubs and other indoor venues from September. It looks to me like our vaccination coverage is starting to run out of steam and is likely to stall around 90%.
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Oh good, covid certificates are to be compulsory for clubs and other indoor venues from September. I wonder if they'll consider that some of the people going to venues will be from countries other than england so it can't all work through the nhs app? (probably not) Good luck to the door staff trying to figure out if someone's a chancer or if that's really what a proof of vaccination from whichever other country looks like. Edit: for example, foreign students arriving in september who may have been vaccinated in other countries and probably don't want to be turned away from everywhere because they don't have a Proper English Vaccination Danger - Octopus! fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Jul 19, 2021 |
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Jul 19, 2021 17:31
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Pablo Bluth posted:I think it's clearly a way to encourage maximum vaccine uptake in the university cohort come the next academic year, rather than something to make nightclubs less superspready. 90% seems ridiculously optimistic.
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Jul 19, 2021 17:33
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Danger - Octopus! posted:I wonder if they'll consider that some of the people going to venues will be from countries other than england so it can't all work through the nhs app? (probably not) Good luck to the door staff trying to figure out if someone's a chancer or if that's really what a proof of vaccination from whichever other country looks like. Well, back to Heathrow for you! Did you bring your own manacles?: Pritti Patel
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ronya posted:
You got very animated when I once made a post that said socialism can have markets Aside that counter-history isn't a takedown of or for you, it is quite explicitly a response to liberals who claim the concept of human rights as theirs. Which is a lot of them, especially politically relevant or public facing figures in the west. It's a fun book that does what it sets out to do.
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Jul 19, 2021 17:49
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cant cook creole bream posted:90% seems ridiculously optimistic.
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Danger - Octopus! posted:I wonder if they'll consider that some of the people going to venues will be from countries other than england so it can't all work through the nhs app? (probably not) Good luck to the door staff trying to figure out if someone's a chancer or if that's really what a proof of vaccination from whichever other country looks like. That was the first public question and the answer is 'they're working on it'.
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namesake posted:That was the first public question and the answer is 'they're working on it'. Ah cool, the news sites covered the announcement but not that, so thanks! I'd like to believe there'll be a good plan in place
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Pablo Bluth posted:Well we're at 87.9% first dose. I think we can limp over 90% as we've still been adding 0.1% a day more or less. The other question is how many people will have got the first dose but fail to follow up with the second. At the moment 2nd dose is 68.5% but uptake rate seems to be holding steady. The numbers aren't looking as strong across younger age groups though - considering the vaccine has been available to everyone over 18 for a month (at the time of this data) and there's been a big roll out of no-appointment walk-in centers, 18-24 is only just edging over 60% first dose and 24-30 haven't made it to 70% yet.  https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/COVID-19-weekly-announced-vaccinations-15-July-2021.pdf Would love to know what's going on to cause the dip in 45-49 yr olds. We'll def make it to 90%+ in the end but I expect it will be a result of announcements like today's re: vaccine passports for clubs etc.
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