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People getting stupider as they get older and start watching too much TV is a pretty common trajectory.
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Vaccine uptake might be dropping because it's clearly not as effective against Delta - I can see why younger people would look at news that the double-vaxxed Health Secretary caught it and decide they can't be bothered because it doesn't work and they've been told they're not at risk of severe disease anyway. The vaccine passports for clubs will be interesting in September because there are plenty of first year uni students who won't be vaccinated by then because they aren't 18 yet. Back to litigation chat, the reason that the juries award high amount of damages is that they aren't told about the $300k cap. They choose an amount they think reflects the situation in the belief that it will be paid out, which frankly is incredibly disrespectful. It's a waste of their time and implies that every jury will fall for any old sob story from gold-diggers. The other one that's been twisted is the Twinkie Defence. It's presented as 'sugar made me do a crime', but the defence never even mentioned Twinkies, that was the media. The defendant was a former health freak who stopped taking care of himself, stopped exercising, and ate junk food that required minimal preparation. This is a classic symptom of depression, but he hadn't been to a doctor so there was no official diagnosis. The defence was trying to argue for leniency because the dramatic change in diet, lifestyle and behaviour were all consequences of a declining mental health.
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Jul 19, 2021 20:10
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Lady Demelza posted:The other one that's been twisted is the Twinkie Defence. It's presented as 'sugar made me do a crime', but the defence never even mentioned Twinkies, that was the media. The defendant was a former health freak who stopped taking care of himself, stopped exercising, and ate junk food that required minimal preparation. This is a classic symptom of depression, but he hadn't been to a doctor so there was no official diagnosis. The defence was trying to argue for leniency because the dramatic change in diet, lifestyle and behaviour were all consequences of a declining mental health. That reminds me I was thinking about the Secret Barrister's books the other day (worth a read, another case of a lib lawyer pointed in the right direction), and the periodic press outrage about poor upstanding Brits, whose home is their castle, being persecuted for defending themselves against evil burglars. Which universally turn out to be either: a) The police asked the householder some basic questions to confirm why there's a dead person in their kitchen, rather than giving them a cup of tea and a medal OR b) The householder(s) shot the intruder in the back/chased them down the street and beat them senseless/tied them to a chair and hit them with a frying pan (ok that last one may be a Dara O Briain bit) Between this kind of distortion, and Gell-Mann amnesia, regarding the press version of events, or the "everyone knows" version that ultimately derives from the press version, as anything other than a fairy story written 100 years later by confused fanboys, seems unwise at this point.
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Jul 19, 2021 20:32
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OK, Al Gore loving sucks but "The planet has a fever. If your baby has a fever, you go to the doctor ... if your doctor tells you you need to intervene here, you don't say 'Well, I read a science fiction novel that tells me it's not a problem'" is a bit funny
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Jul 19, 2021 20:46
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Sheffield Derbyshire Nottinghamshire goons Whitwell community centre, which is the 77 Worksop to Chesterfield bus/Worksop train line has one hero chemist sat in it and he has Pfizer slots available next day.
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Jul 19, 2021 20:47
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OwlFancier posted:People getting stupider as they get older and start watching too much TV is a pretty common trajectory. so is it a literal decline in mental faculties or do they become more sedentary with age and start watching more tv which then makes them stupid?
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Jul 19, 2021 20:47
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Regarde Aduck posted:so is it a literal decline in mental faculties or do they become more sedentary with age and start watching more tv which then makes them stupid? No idea but I think there is a noticeable trend especially with old celebrities that as they get old they basically just turn into walking daily mail columns. I don't know why it happens specifically but I assume it is probably some sort of brain bad that happens if you spend your entire existence in front of a TV like a pig at a trough just shoveling it into your head.
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Jul 19, 2021 20:51
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Regarde Aduck posted:so is it a literal decline in mental faculties or do they become more sedentary with age and start watching more tv which then makes them stupid? Higher chance of developing dementia age 60+, it’s been a documented problem since documents began. Older people in power/cultures respecting your elders (if only for the inheritance) while their mind goes is responsible for so much literal war and suffering through history.
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Jul 19, 2021 20:54
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i sort of get the impression that the linehan effect is more due to the person's self-perception becoming out of date and their inability to deal with that: they were once young and relatively progressive in their views but those views haven't moved with the times and they are unable to accept criticism from others that they have, in fact, become old and conservative and they seem to respond by doubling down and becoming ever more hateful and bigoted
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Jul 19, 2021 20:55
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https://twitter.com/lbc/status/1417190715629711361?s=21 aaaaaaaa
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Jul 19, 2021 20:55
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Thing is they'll either be right and the wave isn't as bad as official predictions are saying or they are making such a huge strategic blunder to ruin the long term benefit of not loving up the vaccination roll out that I'm pretty okay with them owning the situation like this.
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Jul 19, 2021 20:58
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The issue I take with context drift as an explanation is that a lot of them seem to get noticeably worse than they were previously so either they're losing filters or they actually do just get shittier over time.namesake posted:Thing is they'll either be right and the wave isn't as bad as official predictions are saying or they are making such a huge strategic blunder to ruin the long term benefit of not loving up the vaccination roll out that I'm pretty okay with them owning the situation like this. Unfortunately they did that with the herd immunity plan and that just got memory holed when it turned out to be stupid.
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Jul 19, 2021 20:59
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crispix posted:i sort of get the impression that the linehan effect is more due to the person's self-perception becoming out of date and their inability to deal with that: they were once young and relatively progressive in their views but those views haven't moved with the times and they are unable to accept criticism from others that they have, in fact, become old and conservative and they seem to respond by doubling down and becoming ever more hateful and bigoted Yeah it's totally Grandpa Simpson "now what I'm with isn't it" syndrome, but with celebrities you have the added angle of people telling them they're awesome all the time. Even if it's just fans of their work telling them their work is good, it will inevitably build a tower of self-importance unless it's actively resisted.
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Jul 19, 2021 21:00
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like the stuff the terf people type about trans people is just the same letterpress that was used 40 years ago to whip up hatred towards gay people and they are somehow unable to acknowledge the manifestly obvious similarity
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Jul 19, 2021 21:01
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The larger the gently caress up and the more people die, the less likely they can be held to account
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Jul 19, 2021 21:02
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learnincurve posted:Higher chance of developing dementia age 60+, it’s been a documented problem since documents began. Older people in power/cultures respecting your elders (if only for the inheritance) while their mind goes is responsible for so much literal war and suffering through history. Airlines had problems with this in various plane crashes because junior pilots wouldn't override their seniors even though they were allowed to. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_of_culture_on_aviation_safety
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Jul 19, 2021 21:02
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Regarde Aduck posted:so is it a literal decline in mental faculties or do they become more sedentary with age and start watching more tv which then makes them stupid? They have smaller social circles, usually just family. No jobs, live in the burbs or country and don't have to interract with anything or anyone that is unusual to how they live their life. The media that they consume tells them that things are bad and getting worse, and that the young people don't even want to do an honest days work. Older people that I've known who live in cities or large towns usually tend to be a lot sounder, especially if the community they live in has a diverse range of age/ethnicity etc.
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Jul 19, 2021 21:03
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I don’t think you can discount the effect of no longer being young and full of hope - for many they’ll see life drawing to an end, the dreams they had not fulfilled and their potential probably not met. That’s bound to make people angry and bitter about the world and they certainly didn’t feel that way when they were young so it must be the world. Things do change at an absolute breakneck pace compared to the vast majority of human history and I’m not totally sure the human brain is very well equipped to deal with both themselves and their position in life changing, and the world around them. Some can do it, some can’t and there are obviously a huge amount of factors involved in that, but dealing with the rapid change is a fairly new thing for the human mind I think.
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Jul 19, 2021 21:06
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If the government wanted to drive vaccinations, they should have linked easing of restrictions to vaccination progress, which I think would have been a reasonable approach. Also, let young people book them when jabs were all in the news and everyone was talking about it because journalists were getting jabbed, not left them out in the cold as a afterthought.
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Jul 19, 2021 21:07
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Can any computer touchers here with Excel wizardry help me? I want to do some scenarios. I don't think Scenario planner is right. I have this data: High Medium Low Number of concerts globally p.a. 60 45 30 Average number of seats 700 500 300 Average ticket price 35 30 25 Average revenue share 50% 50% 50% Average revenue p.a. 735,000 337,500 112,500 Is there a way of generating a table which shows every combination, eg number of concerts is fixed at 60 and we see the result for H/L/M for all other variables, and so on? I think pivot tables might do it but it's been so long since I last did one and the online tutorials are incomprehensible.
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Jul 19, 2021 21:09
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I'm old and poo poo, and it makes me want to leave a better world behind me. Observation has shown that this is not a universally held stance.
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Jul 19, 2021 21:10
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Brendan Rodgers posted:Airlines had problems with this in various plane crashes because junior pilots wouldn't override their seniors even though they were allowed to. I read a lot of novels from the 1920s, which is a interesting period because it’s a gentler time, but they are also breaking away from Victorian values and a big trope is the belligerent old Victorian uncle who’s lost his mind. Lot of the younger authors aren’t racist, that re-emerges in the mid 1930s, and are far more likely to drop in a white man happily married to a black or Indian wife than at any point before now. Brian Flynn was where Christie got a lot of her ideas from but he is barely remembered.
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Jul 19, 2021 21:13
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Jakabite posted:I don’t think you can discount the effect of no longer being young and full of hope - for many they’ll see life drawing to an end, the dreams they had not fulfilled and their potential probably not met. That’s bound to make people angry and bitter about the world and they certainly didn’t feel that way when they were young so it must be the world. Things do change at an absolute breakneck pace compared to the vast majority of human history and I’m not totally sure the human brain is very well equipped to deal with both themselves and their position in life changing, and the world around them. Some can do it, some can’t and there are obviously a huge amount of factors involved in that, but dealing with the rapid change is a fairly new thing for the human mind I think. I might have said this before on here (forgive my age related defects in case I repeat myself  ). Sometimes I think about all the changes my nans had seen in their lives between their births and the age I am now - born before WW1, WW1, Russian revolution, WW2, Hiroshima, domestic electricity becoming normal, indoor shithouses becoming normal, the space race, men on the moon, microwave ovens, the bringing in of the Welfare State (one of my nans used to tell us how she had to choose which kid got the doc or medicine if they were all ill before 1948), the 'old age pension' only brought in a couple of years before they were born and limited to 'persons of good character', equal pay acts of 1975, women being able to buy property without a male guarantor (that only started happening mostly in the 70s, certainly it was still going when I was of an age to start thinking about house buying), etc etc. So much change in a lifetime! At my age, they were old ladies (and literally 'little' - 5ft 1" both of them).
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Jul 19, 2021 21:14
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Ducking hell https://mobile.twitter.com/uksciencechief/status/1417204235356213252
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Jul 19, 2021 21:17
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Good post by the Jammeister on Facebook this evening: https://www.facebook.com/JeremyCorbynMP/posts/10159560277293872 quote:Whatever your feelings about the lifting of restrictions, let's remember to look out for & after each other.
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Jul 19, 2021 21:18
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Oopsie! https://twitter.com/uksciencechief/status/1417204235356213252?s=19 e:f,b
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Jul 19, 2021 21:18
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therattle posted:Can any computer touchers here with Excel wizardry help me? I want to do some scenarios. I don't think Scenario planner is right. I have this data: You could create a fairly simple combination look up where you just typed in L/M/H a particular cell for each variable and another cell then retrieves that number and another cell puts them together how you like but I don't think there's a quick way of generating all results at once other than typing out all those combinations. That sort of multi variable task is why databases are used.
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Jul 19, 2021 21:26
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lmao. what a terrible terrible shambles.
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Jul 19, 2021 21:27
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learnincurve posted:I read a lot of novels from the 1920s, which is a interesting period because it’s a gentler time, but they are also breaking away from Victorian values and a big trope is the belligerent old Victorian uncle who’s lost his mind. There are some black and white movies from the 1920s that have people being gay and doing crimes, but then in the 1930s there was a reactionary era where the US banned it all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Code_Hollywood quote:As a result, some films in the late 1920s and early 1930s depicted or implied sexual innuendo, romantic and sexual relationships between white and black people, mild profanity, illegal drug use, promiscuity, prostitution, infidelity, abortion, intense violence, and homosexuality. Brendan Rodgers fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Jul 19, 2021 |
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Jul 19, 2021 21:27
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Bobby Deluxe posted:I'm old and poo poo, and it makes me want to leave a better world behind me. Observation has shown that this is not a universally held stance. I think when I am going to be old and poo poo I am going to be mostly annoyed that we have not managed to construct a hell for the people who came before me and left me in the world.
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Jul 19, 2021 21:29
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therattle posted:Can any computer touchers here with Excel wizardry help me? I want to do some scenarios. I don't think Scenario planner is right. I have this data: If I understand correctly, there are only 27 variants there: 60 x 700 x35 x50% = 735000 60 X 700 X30 X50% = 630000 etc? Wasn't sure if you're intending the 'average revenue' to be a 'scenario' or a 'result'.
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Jul 19, 2021 21:46
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quote:Beginning in late 1933 and escalating throughout the first half of 1934, American Roman Catholics launched a campaign against what they deemed the immorality of American cinema. Maybe what they were actually afraid of is that a powerful media would not flinch from exposing them for what they were. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPP6NwDZr8c Now we just need to do something about the powerful media being sex abusers.
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Jul 19, 2021 21:48
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when i am old, i want to have a little shopping trolley and gan till the supermarket twice in the day: once in the morning, for to hide all the reduced items i want, then near the end of the day so i can replace them in the reduced section for them to be discounted further and then they will be all mine  just spend the rest of my days writing letters of complaint and feeding the ducks and shoplifting
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Jul 19, 2021 21:49
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blunt posted:
the 45-49 year old cohort was being invited for their first jabs when the AZ blood clot scare nonsense was on the front pages and so astoundingly there's been less takeup than before or after when under 40s were told they were getting an mRNA
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Jul 19, 2021 21:49
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therattle posted:Can any computer touchers here with Excel wizardry help me? I want to do some scenarios. I don't think Scenario planner is right. I have this data: See your PMs
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Jul 19, 2021 21:52
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i reckon if i was in my 80s i would resent being lumped into the same age bracket as 90-somethings and 100-somethings
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Jul 19, 2021 21:52
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therattle posted:Can any computer touchers here with Excel wizardry help me? I want to do some scenarios. I don't think Scenario planner is right. I have this data: Do you mean like this: code:
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Jul 19, 2021 21:52
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One of the things I am genuinely happy about is that the gay scare propaganda about how we're going to turn all your kids gay is actually entirely true, and it rules, there is no line between the personal and the political, you let people do stuff in the comfort of their own home and they start doing it in public too, eat poo poo assholes turns out you did need cultural hegemony to maintain your lovely ideas.
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Jul 19, 2021 21:55
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crispix posted:when i am old, i want to have a little shopping trolley and gan till the supermarket twice in the day: once in the morning, for to hide all the reduced items i want, then near the end of the day so i can replace them in the reduced section for them to be discounted further and then they will be all mine I got two shopping trollies, a larger one for winter and a smaller insulated one with blue ice packs for the summer They own.
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crispix posted:when i am old, i want to have a little shopping trolley and gan till the supermarket twice in the day: once in the morning, for to hide all the reduced items i want, then near the end of the day so i can replace them in the reduced section for them to be discounted further and then they will be all mine What about the bootees? "Shoes so comfortable you think they're slippers" - those big felt velcro things that look nothing like shoes and exactly like slippers that you see in the Easylife catalogues  (they keep sending them to my flat for the previous occupier who died about 3 years ago).
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