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I could think of worse assessment exercises, honestly. Working with people who cannot convey ideas effectively is kind of a pain.
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How long does it take you to prepare a slide of content? I always assumed it takes 3 minutes to make 1 minute worth of slide deck, plus some non-trivial overhead to come up with the structure of your talk. That's like an hour and twenty minutes worth of coming up with likable content. I thought this was a technical job, but maybe it's not and the job isn't for me.
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Jul 14, 2021 14:28
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Bossy posted:How long does it take you to prepare a slide of content? I always assumed it takes 3 minutes to make 1 minute worth of slide deck, plus some non-trivial overhead to come up with the structure of your talk. That's like an hour and twenty minutes worth of coming up with likable content. is that the only component to the interview? if so, that's kind of a red flag for me. if it's something that let's the whole team see how you communicate in addition to the other, usual stuff then i'd consider it pretty normal
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Jul 14, 2021 14:30
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Bossy posted:How long does it take you to prepare a slide of content? I always assumed it takes 3 minutes to make 1 minute worth of slide deck, plus some non-trivial overhead to come up with the structure of your talk. That's like an hour and twenty minutes worth of coming up with likable content. Writing styles differ, but I would need about 3 hours to go from a topic to a 20 minute talk. I have a fair amount of experience writing presentations, so if you don't, you may need more time. I like giving talks as part of a technical interview, and anywhere that I have influence over the interview structure that's going to be part of it. It's important to see how people communicate and interact with a friendly audience.
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Jul 14, 2021 14:46
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Depends on the kind of presentation too. If it’s a presentation for a work meeting, probably 3-4 hours for a 20-30 minute presentation. If it’s a conference talk, my general rule is one hour of prep per minute of talk.
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Jul 14, 2021 14:55
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It's not the only component to the interview process, but grousing that a 20 minute talk requires a non-trivial amount of prep makes sense, even if that makes me grousey baby. I just need to carve out 1.5-4 hours between yesterday when I got the request and tomorrow when I meet the panel.
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Jul 14, 2021 15:16
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They only gave you a day to prep? They can't be expecting anything polished, I guess. Do you have the option of giving a whiteboard/chalk talk?
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Jul 14, 2021 15:20
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also just wanting to point out that the more senior you get the more time you’re going to spend taking about work can actually doing work
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Jul 14, 2021 15:34
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If I could have done a 20 minute presentation, even on the fly no prep instead of 7 stretched out interviews and 3 months for this job I would be all over that
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Jul 14, 2021 23:15
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did an interview at my friends corps for a more opsy role than I have now. he seems amazed that I would want to leave my current position for a giant company. probably gonna get owned on the hacker rank python test also he kept referring to my assistant as a mionion
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Jul 15, 2021 16:43
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this is an interesting discussion because in ux world presenting your portfolio is basically a given, 20 minutes would be a snap. I typically have to do 60-90 minutes including one deep dive case study that said while whiteboard design questions exist they are rare and typically only done by people who don't know what they're doing, I've seen take-homes but they're even more rare and mostly for more junior roles
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Jul 15, 2021 16:50
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all of my portfolio would be proprietary to the companies i have worked for, and is not public facing
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Jul 15, 2021 18:21
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Finished interviews, and a good company with interesting work wants to hire me. Currently they're discussing my salary requirements, which is a stretch for the position but a hard stop for me. The recruiter knew I was outside of their target range for the position, but held off telling them until after the team met me and all gave me the green light, lol. Never say a number first.
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Jul 16, 2021 03:27
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ultrafilter posted:Writing styles differ, but I would need about 3 hours to go from a topic to a 20 minute talk. kitten smoothie posted:If it’s a presentation for a work meeting, probably 3-4 hours for a 20-30 minute presentation. RokosCockatrice posted:I just need to carve out 1.5-4 hours between yesterday when I got the request and tomorrow when I meet the panel.  i would prefer the take home
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Jul 19, 2021 03:26
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smoked both my interviews this morning hell ya
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Jul 19, 2021 17:38
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barkbell posted:smoked both my interviews this morning hell ya 
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Jul 19, 2021 20:56
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barkbell posted:smoked both my interviews this morning hell ya I read this as "Smoked during both my interviews this morning" and was thinking, "Well, I guess that's an option now with remote interviews, but I wonder how it would come off".
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Jul 20, 2021 03:01
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cheque_some posted:I read this as "Smoked during both my interviews this morning" and was thinking, "Well, I guess that's an option now with remote interviews, but I wonder how it would come off". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgJSGgieTxU&t=44s
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Jul 20, 2021 03:41
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cheque_some posted:I read this as "Smoked during both my interviews this morning" and was thinking, "Well, I guess that's an option now with remote interviews, but I wonder how it would come off". try w both weed and tobacco or like linearize and do it w spliffs
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Jul 20, 2021 03:54
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cheque_some posted:I read this as "Smoked during both my interviews this morning" and was thinking, "Well, I guess that's an option now with remote interviews, but I wonder how it would come off". tbh I have known some folks with interviewing power that would unironically consider smoking weed during the interview a positive in a candidate do not take this as advice to smoke weed during your interview but if you do, record it and post it, sounds hilarious
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Jul 20, 2021 04:57
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i took the day off since i was interviewing all morning and had some beers to celebrate doing well over lunch. ended up getting a call from hr about one of the positions and i may have drunkenly demanded a shitload of money. will make a trip report on how this shakes out.
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Jul 20, 2021 05:56
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we got a way to get touchers to actually ask for a deec number of figgies here holy poo poo
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Jul 20, 2021 08:22
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On that note heres what you should make in for a SW engineer by level and area. This assumes that the levels are 1-6 with 6 being a high technical expert. I only posted 1-5. This is for all company sizes. Generally, Seed/Aeries A round startups will be on the lower side and mega corps will be on the lower side except for the FAANGs. Heres SF/NYC: code:code:code:
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Jul 20, 2021 15:38
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got an offer, it comes with 20k shares of stock but i dont think the company is public. thats just monopoly money right
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Jul 20, 2021 22:21
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it is until it isn’t
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Jul 20, 2021 22:22
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barkbell posted:got an offer, it comes with 20k shares of stock but i dont think the company is public. thats just monopoly money right It's worth nothing unless they get bought or go public.1 If they're a startup at a Series B or later round of funding they've basically committed to going public. 1 I recall there were some fin tech companies that would allow trade of private company stock in some private companies but I don't recall the details. EDIT2: FWIW I know at least a few people who joined a startup post Series A|B and they ended up getting a few years salary around IPO time. And I know ~100 who did not get cash out of their stock. CarForumPoster fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Jul 20, 2021 |
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Jul 20, 2021 22:43
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barkbell posted:got an offer, it comes with 20k shares of stock but i dont think the company is public. thats just monopoly money right it's monopoly money, yes. DO NOT accept it in lieu of increased pay if that's what you asked for CarForumPoster posted:EDIT2: FWIW I know at least a few people who joined a startup post Series A|B and they ended up getting a few years salary around IPO time. And I know ~100 who did not get cash out of their stock. i technically got cash out of mine they wrote us a check worth roughly one paycheck as long as we signed a dotted line saying we wouldn't hold them legally responsible for driving the company into the side of a mountain
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Jul 20, 2021 23:18
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how do i figure out how much that stock is, do i ask what the %age equity it is equivalent to? they arent series anything i dont think, sorry im dumb how do i figure this poo poo out lmao e: oh this is an option to purchase 20k shares wtf barkbell fucked around with this message at 23:34 on Jul 20, 2021 |
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Jul 20, 2021 23:30
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to figure that out you need to see something called a cap table. you can try asking to see it. they will probably say no. also in these situations it's pretty typical for it to be an option. that part is actually ok. if the shares end up being worth something, you exercise the option, if not you don't. since you have no idea whether they will end up being worth something, your expected value with the information you currently have should be $0
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Jul 20, 2021 23:38
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id need to know the strike price right or does it not even matter
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Jul 21, 2021 00:06
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Strike price should be part of the option grant. That’s how much you’d pay to exercise the option. It doesn’t matter too much because right now it is probably very low, compared to the value they are trying to convince you those shares will have someday. If that never materializes, you don’t exercise the option. If it does, and you don’t have enough money to exercise the options that will immediately thereafter make you rich, well then this is a problem that the financial industry has solutions for
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Jul 21, 2021 00:17
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barkbell posted:how do i figure out how much that stock is, do i ask what the %age equity it is equivalent to? For tax reasons you definitely want options and not shares, lest you end up paying taxes on stock you can never sell. You likely shouldnt be asking to see their captable, especially if this is not a tiny startup. You do not need to know what % of the company you own if the company is decently large. It sounds like this is a regular private company and not a startup. Without knowing the name of the company we can't give you useful advice because the differences in reasons for compensating you in stock and who you can sell that equity to can be stark and limited by regulations. The answer of "treat it like monopoly money" is an okay answer for 90% of situations and a pretty bad answer for the other 10%. Here's more on selling private company stock if they're not likely going public: https://carta.com/blog/selling-private-company-stock/
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Jul 21, 2021 03:02
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he said they're not series anything so i assumed early stage startup with seed financing. then again he also said there was hr so idk conflicting signals here
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Jul 21, 2021 03:24
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barkbell posted:got an offer, it comes with 20k shares of stock but i dont think the company is public. thats just monopoly money right had a startup hang up on me in the pre-technical interview with the hiring manager b/c they gave me a low-ball laughable number said i'd get stock and also "we're looking for people not in it for the money" and i was all "well if you're not in it for the money then the ceo is cool with giving me some of his pay then?" and they did not like that one bit it seems
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Jul 21, 2021 03:32
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barkbell posted:how do i figure out how much that stock is, do i ask what the %age equity it is equivalent to? they're worth zero. zero dollars. that is what they're worth. at one point if you're the one in a hundred who strike it  rich the company will successfully IPO and you'll most likely come out with enough money to buy yourself a really nice car. if you're REALLY lucky you'll be able to pay off your mortgage. go another order of magnitude and you've pulled in a couple of million but at this point we're at literal lottery ticket chances for successthe strike price doesn't mean anything until you want to buy them. you don't want to buy them because they're worth zero dollars. there is a very very slim chance they'll be worth more than the strike price at some point. that's when you can buy them and turn around and sell them for a profit. this will almost definitely not happen
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CarForumPoster posted:On that note heres what you should make in for a SW engineer by level and area. This assumes that the levels are 1-6 with 6 being a high technical expert. I only posted 1-5. This is for all company sizes. Generally, Seed/Aeries A round startups will be on the lower side and mega corps will be on the lower side except for the FAANGs. these are deec numbers for cash portion, w/o equity at all equity can get to like, half in tech major land
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take it from me, seriously. we had multiple series of fundraising where at the end we were getting the Serious Business banks involved. they gave us a unicorn valuation. we had our talons in the federal government with critical infrastructure along with banks, state governments, insurance companies of all stripes, the works. there was no loving WAY we couldn't turn this into a goldmine i got $2.5k out of it 
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Jul 21, 2021 03:39
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its a private company, less than a decade old and profitable since its founding year. ~150 headcount hq in denver. offer is 125k base, 10% bonus, 20k shares, unlimited pto, remote work. i have about 1.5yoe. i feel like the offer is good overall, im just trying to figure out the right questions to ask about the shares. ty for the article about selling private stock
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Jul 21, 2021 03:39
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is there any profit sharing associated with the shares? like do they pay you some dividend? in that case it's worth money. but if the private company doesn't go public and isn't large enough to have a secondary market, yeah you probably can't sell them except maybe back to the company
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If it's a private company that's just quietly profitable and the owner has no intention of taking it public, then the relevant question as far as how valuable the shares is really "what does owning the shares actually get you". - Can you have a meaningful vote on shareholder resolutions? I'm going to guess not, and the actual owner is maintaining operational control, so this is worth nothing. - Can you get paid for your shares when the company is eventually sold? Probably yes, but if the owners aren't intending on taking it public or accepting a buyout any time soon then the value of this is likely close enough to zero that you can ignore it. - Can you sit back and quietly collect dividends, like it was a non-growth public stock? If so, then maybe it does have some value, but that will depend on what the actual payouts are. I will say that "less than a decade old" doesn't tell us much - it's a massive range. A 2-year-old company and an 8-year-old company have almost nothing in common.
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