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goddamn imagine being trapped in a subway car up to your neck in whats probably raw sewage
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Jul 20, 2021 23:13
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drat, that looks terrifying 
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Jul 20, 2021 23:39
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Christ Those Chinese I’ve Never seen a subway so clean before
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Jul 21, 2021 00:15
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Jul 21, 2021 00:22
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HisMajestyBOB posted:I didn't realize gender reveal parties were now a thing in China. Lower fatality rate than the traditional Chinese gender reveal tbh
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Jul 21, 2021 00:33
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Preechr posted:Lower fatality rate than the traditional Chinese gender reveal tbh ayyyyyy
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Jul 21, 2021 00:40
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McGavin posted:The OSHA thread has been coming through with some good China content today. I've never thought of myself as Claustrophobic, but that's setting off some primal 'get the gently caress out of here' instinct.
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Jul 21, 2021 00:52
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Preechr posted:Lower fatality rate than the traditional Chinese gender reveal tbh 
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Jul 21, 2021 01:26
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Jesus Christ that video of the subway 3/4 full of water is loving horrifying.
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Jul 21, 2021 01:41
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3CueKSU7X8
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Jul 21, 2021 01:57
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Do the subways there have an electrified middle rail or is it all cables above? I mean obviously power's been cut - I'm assuming that happens automatically?
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Jul 21, 2021 01:57
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Even more from the OSHA thread:Bugsy posted:Also in China. Music is kind of loud so sound inst necessary.
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Jul 21, 2021 02:12
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Shrimp or Shrimps posted:Do the subways there have an electrified middle rail or is it all cables above? I mean obviously power's been cut - I'm assuming that happens automatically? Hopefully, they should? This is China, so who knows. Even if the water they're standing in is electrified, they're still in greater risk of drowning because they have the same voltage as the water they're in. It becomes dangerous when they encounter something with a very different voltage that can complete a circuit.
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Jul 21, 2021 02:48
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ninjoatse.cx posted:Hopefully, they should? This is China, so who knows. Even if the water they're standing in is electrified, they're still in greater risk of drowning because they have the same voltage as the water they're in. It becomes dangerous when they encounter something with a very different voltage that can complete a circuit. I just realised I don't understand electricity.
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Jul 21, 2021 03:27
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kinda hard to talk about the hydraulic pressure analogy of voltage when theres real hydraulic pressure to also talk about lol
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Jul 21, 2021 03:35
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Tree Bucket posted:I just realised I don't understand electricity. a bird can stand with both feet on a bare high voltage power line and nothing will happen, because the current takes the path of least resistance, the wire (the water in the train). but if the bird puts one foot on the wire and another on say a copper pole going directly to the ground (0V), the bird will fry because it has now become a conductor in the circuit. the people on the train standing in electrified water are fine unless they grab something conductive at a different potential, typically to ground like a pipe or something d0s fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Jul 21, 2021 |
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Jul 21, 2021 17:27
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TheBuilder posted:Those people died They were rescued, though 12 people on line 5 died. I got a wild picture of the sinkhole that opened in front of my apartment, but the internet is beyond spotty now. poo poo sucks
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Jul 21, 2021 22:46
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d0s posted:a bird can stand with both feet on a bare high voltage power line and nothing will happen, because the current takes the path of least resistance, the wire (the water in the train). but if the bird puts one foot on the wire and another on say a copper pole going directly to the ground (0V), the bird will fry because it has now become a conductor in the circuit. the people on the train standing in electrified water are fine unless they grab something conductive at a different potential, typically to ground like a pipe or something Wouldn't the whole system have shorted out and lost power the moment it became slightly submerged? We joke about construction with Chinese characteristics, but I'm pretty sure they still use fuses. My concern is that the water level could easily rise a couple feet, or the train could roll down a slight incline, and all of those people would helplessly drown. At least open the emergency exits so you have some options if poo poo goes from bad to worse.
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Jul 21, 2021 23:09
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Devils Affricate posted:Wouldn't the whole system have shorted out and lost power the moment it became slightly submerged? We joke about construction with Chinese characteristics, but I'm pretty sure they still use fuses. My concern is that the water level could easily rise a couple feet, or the train could roll down a slight incline, and all of those people would helplessly drown. At least open the emergency exits so you have some options if poo poo goes from bad to worse. yes, I was only describing what would happen if the water was electrified for some reason
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Jul 21, 2021 23:12
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d0s posted:yes, I was only describing what would happen if the water was electrified for some reason Please don’t give Elon Musk any more business ideas
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Jul 22, 2021 01:35
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Preechr posted:Lower fatality rate than the traditional Chinese gender reveal tbh ok I lol’d
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d0s posted:a bird can stand with both feet on a bare high voltage power line and nothing will happen, because the current takes the path of least resistance, the wire (the water in the train). but if the bird puts one foot on the wire and another on say a copper pole going directly to the ground (0V), the bird will fry because it has now become a conductor in the circuit. the people on the train standing in electrified water are fine unless they grab something conductive at a different potential, typically to ground like a pipe or something Keep in mind that the difference in conductivity matters. (Wire) : (Bird) is very different to (Water) : (Person), and can lead to unfortunate results.
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Jul 22, 2021 03:02
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Preechr posted:Lower fatality rate than the traditional Chinese gender reveal tbh The Great Autismo! posted:ok I lol’d This was an excellent joke and I missed it the first time because I wasn't smart enough. Thanks for the lol notice, Autismo
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Jul 22, 2021 03:22
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McGavin posted:The OSHA thread has been coming through with some good China content today. Well, that seems like a dangerous and potentially tragic situation.
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Jul 22, 2021 03:39
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Atopian posted:Keep in mind that the difference in conductivity matters. yeah but you still need to complete a circuit, even if the body was a perfect conductor you are just at the same potential as the water you're in and no current is flowing through you until you ground yourself. granted that is way way easier to do in water/when wet than when dealing with solid objects
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Jul 22, 2021 04:01
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BrainDance posted:They were rescued, though 12 people on line 5 died. Rescued by God to heaven.
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Jul 22, 2021 04:02
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Devils Affricate posted:This was an excellent joke and I missed it the first time because I wasn't smart enough. Thanks for the lol notice, Autismo I read it, but just got it 
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Jul 22, 2021 04:20
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therobit posted:Well, that seems like a dangerous and potentially tragic situation. it's a really terrible thing. they're a normally pretty dry area and got roughly their entire annual rainfall over the course of 3 days, so no amount of infrastructure would've really saved them. as climate change continues this sorta thing will just be more and more widespread which is real depressing! Shanghai and Zhejiang are scheduled to get a typhoon this weekend into early next week, and while typhoons are totally normal this time of year for this region, the local municipal gov has been doing overtime releasing info of how they're preparing for it and will close roads/subways/etc before anything happens which I have never seen before.
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Jul 22, 2021 06:08
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Climate change is a motherfucker. I have no sense of what is being done in China with respect to climate policy right now. I know a few year ago there was the argument that western powers industrialized with cheap oil and coal and it’s hypocritical to ask developing nations to cut carbon emissions now. Which is a fair point but we are all still getting hosed by climate change, China included. Has the rhetoric changed since then and are substantive steps being taken? I am honestly curious because I’m not tuned into The Chinese government’s climate policy.
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Jul 22, 2021 06:23
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Ailumao posted:it's a really terrible thing. they're a normally pretty dry area and got roughly their entire annual rainfall over the course of 3 days, so no amount of infrastructure would've really saved them. That typhoon was supposed to hit Taiwan first, but the forecast now appears to be looking at Taiwan, saying "nope" and then going north. Still get a hell of alot of rainfall.
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Jul 22, 2021 06:29
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ninjoatse.cx posted:I read it, but just got it Same. drat.
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Jul 22, 2021 06:55
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Devils Affricate posted:This was an excellent joke and I missed it the first time because I wasn't smart enough. Thanks for the lol notice, Autismo there's a lot of bad poo poo going on with the floods, so this joke was a nice change of pace and it was pretty subtlety placed in the middle of a gbs thread. it was well done 
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Jul 22, 2021 07:47
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therobit posted:Climate change is a motherfucker. I have no sense of what is being done in China with respect to climate policy right now. I know a few year ago there was the argument that western powers industrialized with cheap oil and coal and it’s hypocritical to ask developing nations to cut carbon emissions now. Which is a fair point but we are all still getting hosed by climate change, China included. Has the rhetoric changed since then and are substantive steps being taken? I am honestly curious because I’m not tuned into The Chinese government’s climate policy. r u sure that china's incredibly lovely infrastructure is not the problem, and it is really climate change? lol beijing and Tianjin used to flood every year in July since like 2009 when I was there. at some point blaming "climate change" is just kind of sad, right? like...wow, a decade later and it is still flooding?! incredible! if only we could stop climate change! let's funnel some more money to our own pockets and make sure everyone knows nefarious climate change is the issue as we continue to not fix the infrastructure. climate change is an issue and people need to adapt to it. obviously. not adapting to it is not an issue of "climate change". it's an issue of incompetency at the country and local levels. [tangentially related] *THE LOCAL CHINESE GOVERNMENT HAS ENTERED THE CHAT* [user The Great Autismo was arrested from the chat] God help me when QCS and C-SPAM see this, they will lose their loving minds The Great Autismo! fucked around with this message at 08:02 on Jul 22, 2021 |
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Jul 22, 2021 07:54
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China is probably (even) more vulnerable to climate change than many nations, especially western nations, due to its geography and food and water insecurity. Desertification has been an ongoing problem in a country that already has a very low amount of arable land per capita, and the rise in income has changed diets, increasing the consumption of meat, dairy, and other resource-intensive foods. I don’t know of any country that has a truly resilient food infrastructure to climate change but China’s is already under a great deal of stress and any shocks will be difficult to adapt to.
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Jul 22, 2021 15:42
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also going outside in shenzhen for a very material portion of the year is hell on earth
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Jul 22, 2021 15:44
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They've also had like 3 dams collapse in the last few days instead of cresting so it's both a weather and a poor infrastructure problem.
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Jul 22, 2021 15:59
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"random earth dam collapses" is also a different statement from "one of the largest dams on earth collapses", tbh
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Jul 22, 2021 16:10
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Preechr posted:Lower fatality rate than the traditional Chinese gender reveal tbh 
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 This is what happened right in front of my apartment, but I guess this is happening all over town now especially in my district. Rain has mostly stopped and most places arent flooding now, its just tons of poo poo collapsing we gotta deal with.
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