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hooman posted:If they do they'll just dump Morrison for someone else and all the stink will magically vanish. Hopefully Morrison will go full god's chosen and dig in.
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Senor Tron posted:The reaction to borders reopening is hard to predict. This is going to be a really interesting mental shift, yeah. The idea that it will become "just another flu" is something that was spoken about a lot last year, pre-vaccine, and relied on the idea that it would mutate to become less deadly. It seems like a lot of people are thinking we can just directly jump into that stage via vaccines when that hasn't actually happened yet. Britain is already, right now, recording 40ish deaths a day which is exactly what their typical flu death rate is when smoothed out across a year. That is obviously going to get worse, and that is obviously not the same as "just another flu" at all. Even before you factor in long COVID and unvaccinated kids. I think the best scenario would be that we only very gradually ease the border restrictions (nobody gets in without being vaccinated, quarantine at home etc) and continue with test/trace/isolate while we watch how things develop in the rest of the world re: variants, booster shots, new vaccines. Maybe we can keep it at a mitigated low burn like South Korea or some Scandinavian countries did last year, and only go back into lockdown if some dangerous variant springs back up. But I genuinely don't know how the public will react. Australians have been conditioned to be extremely intolerant of any community spread, but that might change once more and more individuals start getting vaccinated. I personally don't want to get anywhere near the loving thing even after being vaccinated, but I doubt most people will see it that way.
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As long as long covid is a thing I don't know if "just another flu" will be acceptable
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NSW numbers are really, really bad. And Jesus Christ all the press asking if its time we just learn to live with the virus. Get hosed scum.
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Morrison will purposely poo poo himself at Engadine maccas during the re-election campaign and win by a landside
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Anidav posted:Labor will win the next federal election. The newspoll breakdowns state by state show that the biggest swing towards Labor is in Queensland. lol dude liberals will find a war if its looking that bad
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go_banana posted:NSW numbers are really, really bad. And Jesus Christ all the press asking if its time we just learn to live with the virus. Get hosed scum. Do they actually think that means everything opens up and you go back to normal? Abandoning elimination puts you in suppression, like the UK was for months and months. Extended restrictions nationwide without a clear goal for the public to embrace, it's the worst of everything, vaxxed boomers will demand special treatment. Oh and death.
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spaceblancmange posted:Do they actually think that means everything opens up and you go back to normal? Abandoning elimination puts you in suppression, like the UK was for months and months. Extended restrictions nationwide without a clear goal for the public to embrace, it's the worst of everything, vaxxed boomers will demand special treatment. Oh and death. Your mistake here is assuming that journalists think
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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:lol dude liberals will find a war if its looking that bad isn't there talk of going back into Afghanistan?
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GoldStandardConure posted:isn't there talk of going back into Afghanistan? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-20/australia-considering-return-afghanistan-monitor-taliban/100305336
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Eediot Jedi posted:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-20/australia-considering-return-afghanistan-monitor-taliban/100305336 thanks mister skeltal
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Everyone is going to be suddenly and deeply concerned about China just before the election, probably. e: might get probed for mentioning China. Not my intent to stir the thread. Just saying they’ve used up “boat people” and there’s another effective distraction available to them. commie kong fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Jul 21, 2021 |
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go_banana posted:NSW numbers are really, really bad. And Jesus Christ all the press asking if its time we just learn to live with the virus. Get hosed scum. Akin to the old Yes Minister joke about politicians going "we must do something > this is something > therefore we must do this" I think a lot of journos go "we must ask something > this is something> therefore we must ask this." Similar to the thinkpiece industry with its very short attention span both here and overseas churning out pieces along the lines of Australia Was A Covid Success Story; But Now The Tables Have Turned. Ten years from now or even one year from now nobody is going to remember a delayed vaccine rollout and a few months of lockdown for Sydney, and Australia's overall pandemic response will still be one of the best in the world. Conversely, the fact that the US and UK have gotten a majority of their population vaccinated very quickly does not atone for their collective 700,000+ death toll.
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bowmore posted:they'll shank Morrison 6 months out from the election and then the polls will go back to 50/50 But that means you most likely have Dutton as leader. ScoMo may be evil and useless, but at least he has his "daggy suburban dad I'm just like you" schtick to fall back on. Dutton only has cartoony evil. Which gets worse when he tries to smile and be personable. Remember those horribly posed family photos he pushed out pre his last spill attempt?
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BrigadierSensible posted:But that means you most likely have Dutton as leader.
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Anyway I went for a walk down my local high street (in Melbourne) and two of the cafes that would normally be open for takeaway were closed entirely, plus the kebab place, and I stopped in at my local and the owner said he was debating whether to even bother staying open or just shut down for the rest of lockdown and put his staff on annual leave. He's pro-lockdown but says he's still waiting on the government financial support he was supposed get from the May lockdown, and lost Jobkeeper in November because his earnings weren't reduced enough to keep it. Bleak vibe out there.
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freebooter posted:Anyway I went for a walk down my local high street (in Melbourne) and two of the cafes that would normally be open for takeaway were closed entirely, plus the kebab place, and I stopped in at my local and the owner said he was debating whether to even bother staying open or just shut down for the rest of lockdown and put his staff on annual leave. He's pro-lockdown but says he's still waiting on the government financial support he was supposed get from the May lockdown, and lost Jobkeeper in November because his earnings weren't reduced enough to keep it. Bleak vibe out there. Tell him if he has a go he'll get a go
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BrigadierSensible posted:But that means you most likely have Dutton as leader.
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quote:Prime Minister Scott Morrison says he is making a “constant appeal” to the expert panel advising the government on vaccines to change their medical advice relating to the AstraZeneca COVID-19 jab, after it said it shouldn’t be the preferred product for people aged under 60. lol
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commie kong posted:Everyone is going to be suddenly and deeply concerned about China just before the election, probably. it'll be china for sure Tgent posted:I feel like Frydenberg would be next in line at this point. gonna win the prime minstership and lose his seat
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BrigadierSensible posted:But that means you most likely have Dutton as leader. This has already been covered and the issue settled with a glowing endorsement from his significant other.
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commie kong posted:Everyone is going to be suddenly and deeply concerned about China just before the election, probably. Mate, as long as you're not doing genocide denialism bullshit, no one gives a poo poo if you mention China. And, if you are, well there's a CSPAM Auspol thread which was literally created for genocide denialism , I poo poo you not.
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SecretOfSteel posted:This has already been covered and the issue settled with a glowing endorsement from his significant other. that just sounds like something a monster would make her say
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hooman posted:Mods asleep, post potato. please do not insult the noble potato by comparing it to peter dutton
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Mate, as long as you're not doing genocide denialism bullshit, no one gives a poo poo if you mention China. Which australian genocide are they denying?
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That's just it, they're not even doing our genocides - they doing the "Uyghur genocide is CIA op" thing.
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See, this makes me think that we probably will be in rolling lockdowns up to the election, because this comes across as desperately scrambling to cover for a lack of new doses that can meet our current demand. The PM is trying to get doctors to say that AstraZeneca is better than we think, and that tells me that we're not getting more Pfizer anytime soon.
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Sierra Madre posted:See, this makes me think that we probably will be in rolling lockdowns up to the election, because this comes across as desperately scrambling to cover for a lack of new doses that can meet our current demand. The PM is trying to get doctors to say that AstraZeneca is better than we think, and that tells me that we're not getting more Pfizer anytime soon. Nah it's because he said it was alright for younger people the other week and now he's trying to bully the ATAGI into agreeing with him.
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SuddenCactus posted:Nah it's because he said it was alright for younger people the other week and now he's trying to bully the ATAGI into agreeing with him. Yes, but why would he say it's alright for younger people in the first place, in the face of changing opinions from medical experts?
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Sierra Madre posted:Yes, but why would he say it's alright for younger people in the first place, in the face of changing opinions from medical experts? He's an marketing idiot and doesn't understand the real world
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He invested a huge amount of political capital in pushing the AZ before the whole blot clot thing came up. Naturally, rather than using the best information available and jumping on Pfizer, he has to pretend his first decision was right all along and doesn't care what negative effects this will have on people.
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