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Xander77 posted:
Or the other hand, Fraser spent his early adulthood literally fighting for the British Empire, in WWII. His portrait of that empire seems entirely compatible with there being worse things, as well as better. I mean, the key fact about the Burmese campaign he fought in is that the anti-Imperial rebels switched sides once they found out what the Japanese were actually like. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aung_San
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Phenotype posted:Cricket must be the most impenetrable and arbitrary game in the world, that could only have been dreamt up by rich people with far too much time on their hands. You say this, but one of the earliest historical records of proto-cricket is from 1611, when two ordinary blokes from a village were prosecuted for playing cricket on Sunday instead of going to church. Another is a Puritan minister in 1629, bitching about the great unwashed of Maidstone playing at cricket, stoolball, and morris dancing (well, he was one-third correct, at least). To anyone who is trying to understand the Empire and the mindset of the people of all classes who administered it, I would recommend Derek Birley's excellent A Social History of English Cricket. It's a rollicking story of rank hypocrisy, massive gambling at every turn, and inventing spurious traditions for the sole purpose of complaining that nobody follows them any more.
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Published in 1977, Flashman's Lady, does not concern itself with just one area and issue of the day but instead focuses on several locations in the Pacific and Indian oceans. The title, of course, concerns Elspeth who has always been present for these books but here she is a central character and shows a great deal more than we have seen before. I don't want to give too much away that the cover does not, let's dive right in to author's note. quote:
Flashman would have been in his late seventies during the Boxer Rebellion, quite a sight. Sadly the latest adventure of his we see will be in 1894. Also Grisel's censorious adjustments have been removed from this volume. But who cares about high adventure, exotic lands, and beautiful, dangerous women? Let's get to the real draw here: Cricket. quote:So they're talking about amending the leg-before-wicket rule again. I don't know why they bother, for they'll never get it right until they go back to the old law which said that if you put your leg in front of the ball a-purpose to stop it hitting the stumps, you were out, and damned good riddance to you. That was plain enough, you'd have thought, but no; those mutton-brains in the Marylebone club have to scratch their heads over it every few years, and gas for days on end about the line of delivery and the point of pitch, and the Lord knows what other rubbish, and in the end they cross out a word and add another, and the whole thing's as incomprehensible as it was before. Set of doddering old women. I know just enough about cricket to guess he's referring to a recent series or the origin of The Ashes. quote:Of course, I speak as one who learned his cricket in the golden age, when I was a miserable fag at Rugby, toadying my way up the school and trying to keep a whole skin in that infernal jungle - you took your choice of emerging a physical wreck or a moral one, and I'm glad to say I never hesitated, which is why I'm the man I am today, what's left of me. I snivelled and bought my way to safety when I was a small boy, and bullied and tyrannized when I was a big one; how the devil I'm not in the House of Lords by now, I can't think. That's by the way; the point is that Rugby taught me only two things really well, survival and cricket, for I saw even at the tender age of eleven that while bribery, fawning, and deceit might ensure the former, they weren't enough to earn a popular reputation, which is a very necessary thing. For that, you had to shine at games, and cricket was the only one for me. The Green Man pub still stands and was a famous site for duels. Also Flashman's description of his conduct during other sports at Rugby seems to perfectly match what alleged in 'Tom Brown's School Days.' quote:It's long gone now, but in those days "The Green Man" was a famous haunt of cricketers, and it was the sight of bats and stumps and other paraphernalia of the game in the window that suddenly brought back memories, and awoke a strange hunger - not to play, you understand, but just to smell the atmosphere again, and hear the talk of batters and bowlers, and the jargon and gossip. So I turned in, ordered a plate of tripe and a quart of home-brewed, exchanged a word or two with the jolly pipe-smokers in the tap, and was soon so carried away by the homely fare, the cheery talk and laughter, and the clean hearty air of the place, that I found myself wishing I'd gone on to the Haymarket and got myself a dish of hot spiced trollop instead. Still, there was time before supper, and I was just calling the waiter to settle up when I noticed a fellow staring at me across the room. He met my eye, shoved his chair back, and came over. quote:"Hold on," says he, laughing. "I'm Brown. Tom Brown - of Rugby. Don't say you've forgotten!" Not one to let bygones be bygones, even when he's about see them again shortly, Flashman decides to stick in a spicy knife. quote:"Oh, down towards Haymarket," says I. "Get some exercise, I think." This, and some further indignities no doubt inspired Tom's all too accurate hatchet job we learned about last book. Next time: Off to the brothel! And then whatever. Also, out of my depth and will need some help explaining all of the Cricket that goes down, so if anyone wants to give the aspects that arise an overly detailed explanation with many visual aids and historical references, that'd be great. Arbite fucked around with this message at 07:46 on Jul 23, 2021 |
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Arbite posted:Also, out of my depth and will need some help explaining all of the Cricket that goes down, so if anyone wants to give the aspects that arise an overly detailed explanation with many visual aids and historical references, that'd be great. *marks out long run* quote:So they're talking about amending the leg-before-wicket rule again. I don't know why they bother, for they'll never get it right until they go back to the old law which said that if you put your leg in front of the ball a-purpose to stop it hitting the stumps, you were out, and damned good riddance to you. This is simple enough. In cricket, the basic action is for a bowler to bowl the ball at three short sticks (using one of many different actions depending on the time period, but crucially without bending his arm) while the batsman/batter attempts to defend them (with the rise of women's cricket, the gender-neutral term is rapidly catching on). For anyone familiar with baseball; imagine if the strike zone was marked with a physical object, and the batter doesn't have to run after a hit if they don't want to. Since the object of the game is for the batter to hit the ball with their bat, it soon became clear that using one's legs to defend the wicket is unfair; and so the leg-before-wicket (LBW) law was introduced to stop them doing this. quote:It all comes of these pads that batters wear nowadays. When I was playing cricket we had nothing to guard our precious shins except our trousers Modern cricket began to emerge at the turn of the 17th century, and by Flashman's time it's already been played for 120 years in a form that would be more or less recognisable to a fan of the modern game. Big external leg pads of the type used by batters today did indeed emerge some time after Flashman's best years; but as Flashy admits a little later, it was common to stuff any available soft material down one's trousers before going out to bat. quote:Alfie Mynn, that great muffin Grace, that fat black nawab and the pup Fry We'll see Mynn soon, a pace bowler as feared in his day as any who came after him. Dr W.G. Grace is one of the few cricketers on the level of Bradman whose fame endures beyond cricket, a massive comic-book figure with a hefty frame and massive beard, primarily known for his batting but a useful bowler as well, playing in 44 straight first-class seasons, and his absolutely shameless ability to make vast sums of money for playing cricket while also claiming to be an amateur. He was born in 1848 and is clearly of the next generation to Flashman. Most cricket fans who hear "Nawab" will think of one of the 8th and 9th Nawabs of Pataudi, both of whom captained India; the 8th Nawab also played for England before the Indian national team was fully established. However, since the 8th Nawab was not born until 1910, Flashy probably means Ranjitsinhji, Jam Sahib of Nawanagar. He came to study at Cambridge in 1888 and would eventually become as influential a batter as Grace had been in his day. His influence is such that the Indian domestic first-class trophy is named for him. C.B. Fry is the kind of hearty man who Flashman's existence parodies; he played cricket and football for England, appeared in an FA Cup final at football, equalled the long-jumping world record, and may or may not have been offered the literal throne of Albania after the end of the First World War while working at the League of Nations. He was a contemporary and great friend of Ranjitsinhji. quote:From this you may gather that I was a bowler myself, not a batter A classically-picked cricket eleven consists of five specialist batters, five specialist bowlers, and a specialist wicket-keeper (the equivalent of the baseball catcher). Most players specialise in either batting or bowling; players good enough to perform at a high level as both are known as all-rounders; they're extremely rare and usually become superstars (like Ian Botham or Andrew Flintoff) when they do emerge. Other than wicket-keepers, and unlike baseball, it is almost unknown for a player to be known and picked primarily for their fielding; even the greatest fielder must first be able to contribute with either bat or ball in hand. As a specialist bowler, there is nothing unusual in Flashman's dislike for batting except against weak bowlers. As a bully who likes to be seen as intimidating, it's also unsurprising that he worked to become a fast bowler. Unlike in baseball, in certain situations, bowling fast and aiming to hit the batter on the upper body is a legitimate tactic, and would surely have appealed to Flashy's personality; it's the ideal role for him. The list of great intimidatory fast bowlers like Malcolm Marshall or Glenn McGrath is far too long for this thread. quote:It may strike you that old Flashy's approach to our great summer game wasn't quite that of your school-storybook hero, apple-cheeked and manly, playing up unselfishly for the honour of the side and love of his gallant captain, revelling in the jolly rivalry of bat and ball while his carefree laughter rings across the green sward. No, not exactly; personal glory and cheap wickets however you could get 'em, and damnn the honour of the side, that was my style, with a few quid picked up in side-bets, and plenty of skirt-chasing afterwards among the sporting ladies who used to ogle us big hairy fielders over their parasols at Canterbury Week. Flashy is accurately describing how cricket was seen in popular culture in his day. It has long been a popular pastime to clatter boringly on about the noble cricketing traditions of sportsmanship and fair play and good behaviour (and how these standards have declined from how it was when the speaker was a lad); but it is far less well known than it should be that these traditions were invented out of whole cloth once the Victorian moralists really got rolling in about the 1860s, seemingly so they could hypocritically moan about how nobody was following them. (Again, if anyone wants to know more about this, Derek Birley's your man.) Cricket is therefore the ideal sport for him; he seems very incongruous as a cricketer if you're used to the modern discourse around the game, but the really interesting thing is that actually in his prime, most of his cheating, gambling ways would have been completely unremarkable. quote:our recent disastrous showing against the Australians There are plenty to choose from near the end of his life, and this would depend on exactly when he was writing; although the three most likely candidates all took place in Australia. Still, his not knowing a drat thing about what happened other than what he read in the newspapers would almost certainly not affect the strength of his opinions one bit. quote:I rubbed along at it only by limping up late to the scrimmages yelping: "Play up, you fellows, do! Oh, confound this game leg of mine!" and by developing a knack of missing my charges against bigger men by a fraction of an inch, plunging on the turf just too late with heroic gasps and roarings. Here comes Speedicut; and Flashman the School-house bully, with shouts and great action... quote:I suppose, if Fuller Pilch had got his bat down just a split second sooner... Pilch was widely acclaimed the greatest batter in cricket's history until W.G. Grace surpassed him a generation later. He was the leading batter of Flashman's time and it's unsurprising that we'll be seeing him later. quote:It was in the 'thirties, you see, that round-arm bowling came into its own, and fellows like Mynn got their hands up shoulder-high. Cricket was originally played with the ball bowled underarm; at first it was rolled along the ground, and then as standards of batting improved and evolved, it was bounced to make it harder to hit. In the modern game bowlers aim to bounce the ball once and once only, and the major feature of cricket bowling is exploiting how the ball reacts after it hits the ground. Roundarm bowling, as Flashy says, allows the bowler to generate more pace than bowling underarm due to simple biomechanics. The bowler was permitted to raise his hand no higher than the shoulder until 1864, when full overarm bowling was allowed and (aside from oddities like Malinga), roundarm styles almost immediately disappeared forever. quote:He shook his fat head solemnly. "I'm thinking of reading philosophy at Oxford this term, you know. However, I mustn't prose." Before we close, this seems to be a wonderfully arch little reference to Tom Brown at Oxford, the difficult second album to Tom Brown's Schooldays. quote:while piety and sobriety may ensure you eternal life, they ain't enough to beat the MCC The Marylebone Cricket Club was founded in 1787 as an offshoot from other leading cricket clubs of the day, and almost immediately was well-regarded enough to become custodian of the Laws of the Game, and the club maintained significant control over the administration of international cricket until 1989. They were one of England's leading first-class clubs until about the 1870s, when county cricket began to become the predominant form of first-class play. quote:Lord's - I'd never played there, but what cricketer who ever breathed wouldn't jump at the chance? You may think it small enough beer compared with the games I'd been playing lately, but I'll confess it made my heart leap. In 1815, the MCC established the current Lord's Cricket Ground (named for Thomas Lord, MCC player and original landowner), still the most famous ground in the world. It remains a place so wonderful and mythical to cricket lovers that it's completely reasonable to think that even the determinedly cynical Flashman can't resist its allure. It's Lord's, for gently caress's sake.
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quote:However, just because I'd punctured holy Tom's daydreams, don't imagine that I took my training lightly. Even while the German wench was recovering her breath afterwards and ringing for refreshments, I was limbering up on the rug, trying out my old round-arm swing; I even got some of her sisters in to throw oranges to me for catching practice, and you never saw anything jollier than those painted dollymops scampering about in their corsets, shying fruit. We made such a row that the other customers put their heads out, and it turned into an impromptu innings on the landing, whores versus patrons (I must set down the rules for brothel cricket some day, if I can recall them; cover point took on a meaning that you won't find in "Wisden", I know). The whole thing got out of hand, of course, with furniture smashed and the sluts shrieking and weeping, and the madame's bullies put me out for upsetting her disorderly house, which seemed a trifle hard. This was before Morrison had Flashman lured onto a slave ship and Flash subsequently returned with enough evidence to kill the old bastard, presumably of apoplexy. Also the Rebecca Riots were protests by West and Central Welsh over unfair taxation. Interestingly, Fraser contradicts Flashman in the endnotes, saying: quote:Flashman's memory is playing him false here, but only slightly. The so-called Rebecca Riots did not begin until some months later, in 1843, when a peculiar secret society known as "Rebecca and her Daughters" began a terrorist campaign against high toll charges in South Wales. They went armed, masked, and disguised as women, and would descend by night on toll-houses and toll-gates, which they wrecked. They apparently took their name from an allusion in Genesis xxiv, 60: "And they blessed Rebekah … and said … let thy seed possess the gate of those which hate them." (See Halev's History of the English People, vol. iv, and Punch, vol. v, Introduction, 1843.) [p. 21] Huh. Anyway, I am curious how often these endnote corrections were present from the first drafts and how many were added as corrections from one source or another reached GMF. quote:You'll understand that we were an unusual menage. I had married Elspeth perforce, two years before when I had the ill-fortune to be stationed in Scotland, and had been detected tupping her in the bushes - it had been the altar or pistols for two with her fire-eating uncle. Then, when my drunken guv'nor had gone smash over railway shares, old Morrison had found himself saddled with the upkeep of the Flashman establishment, which he'd had to assume for his daughter's sake. In the average book this is about all the detail we'd get what Elspeth is like when she isn't driving events on the page but as this is very much her book as well as Harry's this attention will thankfully continue. But not right now, because we're back to the main event and reason we're all here! quote:One reason for this was that it was still a betting game, and the stakes could run pretty high - I've known £50,000 riding on a single innings, with wild side-bets of anything from a guinea to a thou on how many wickets Marsden would take, or how many catches would fall to the slips, or whether Pilch would reach fifty (which he probably would). With so much cash about, you may believe that some of the underhand work that went on would have made a Hays City stud school look like old maid's loo - matches were sold and thrown, players were bribed and threatened, wickets were doctored (I've known the whole eleven of a respected county side to sneak out en masse and piss on the wicket in the dark, so that their twisters could get a grip next morning; I caught a nasty cold myself). Of course, corruption wasn't general, or even common, but it happened in those good old sporting days - and whatever the purists may say, there was a life and stingo about cricket then that you don't get now. See now, out of context I would have no idea what most-any of these names, places and terms are but GMF is so good here that one gets swept up into feeling just how he wants you to. I have confidence that this is even better if you know exactly what's being discussed. quote:Then it was time to play, and Brown won the toss and elected to bat, which meant that I spent the next hour beside Elspeth's chair, trying to hush her imbecile observations on the game, and waiting for my turn to go in. It was a while coming, because either Kent were going easy to make a game of it, or Brooke and Brown were better than you'd think, for they survived the opening whirlwind of Mynn's attack, and when the twisters came on, began to push the score along quite handsomely. I'll say that for Brown, he could play a deuced straight bat, and Brooke was a hitter. They put on thirty for the first wicket, and our other batters were game, so that we had seventy up before the tail was reached, and I took my leave of my fair one, who embarrassed me damnably by assuring her neighbours that I was sure to make a score, because I was so strong and clever. I hastened to the pavilion, collared a pint of ale from the pot-boy, and hadn't had time to do more than blow off the froth when there were two more wickets down, and Brown says: "In you go, Flashman." Let's leave it there for now as Flashman's finest hour looms. Arbite fucked around with this message at 07:46 on Jul 23, 2021 |
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Cricket annotations:quote:cover point took on a meaning that you won't find in "Wisden", I know John Wisden would have just been coming of age at this time. Three years later he makes his first-class debut for Sussex; in 1864, just after his retirement from playing, he published the first edition of his annual Cricketers' Almanack. This quickly became the last word in cricket statistics, and is now a byword for respectability, comprehensiveness (modern editions run to over 1,500 pages), and subject matter expertise. Like baseball, cricket is a haven for the statto, and Wisden is their bible. Rare old editions can change hands for thousands of pounds. Meanwhile, "cover point" is one of many cricket fielding positions with defeatingly silly names. quote:old John Gully, the retired pug We've seen him before in Royal Flash; in his prime he would have been very much the Chris Eubank or Tyson Fury of his day, and when that book was made into a film he was played, most appropriately, by Henry Cooper. quote:the crowds ten-deep at the nets Cricket nets are a simple practice structure found the world over. It allows bowlers and batters to practice without needing fielders, or having to constantly be gathering the balls up. quote:to see Pilch at batting practice, or Felix, agile as his animal namesake, bowling those slow lobs that seemed to hang forever in the air. "Felix" was the pseudonym of Nicholas Wanostrocht; he was Head Master of a school which he'd inherited from his father at age 19, and it is usually said that he adopted the pseudonym to avoid looking frivolous to his school's parents. His book Felix on the Bat is one of the first cricketing instruction manuals. quote:the egregious Brown was decidedly cool, and so was Brooke, who'd been head of the school in my time and was the apple of Arnold's eye Brooke is the School-house's cricket and football captain in Tom Brown's Schooldays, who right from the off is depicted as seeing through Flashman's bluster: quote:Here comes Speedicut, and Flashman the School-house bully, with shouts and great action. Won't you two come up to young Brooke, after locking-up, by the School-house fire, with “Old fellow, wasn't that just a splendid scrummage by the three trees?” But he knows you, and so do we. quote:Gentlemen of Rugby vs the cracks of Kent Rules set down by the MCC soon after their foundation strictly governed the division between "gentleman" amateurs, who were only allowed to claim incidental expenses for playing (and so had to have enough social status to support themselves when not cricketing), and "player" professionals, who were paid wages for playing (and so demonstrating they were lower-class enough to have to earn money themselves). In most teams, gentlemen and players turned out together; as the Victorians took hold, greater segregation off the field came along, to the point where many important grounds had separate entrances and changing rooms for gentlemen and players, paralleling Army regulations which demanded strict social separation between officers and men. The rules on amateurism were always honoured rather more in the breach than the observance, so long as they were only broken discreetly, and it would still be treated as a scandal if a gentleman were exposed as earning money from his play. Mynn himself played as an amateur and more than once ran into problems with his expenses. This match would now be considered first-class by most major statisticians. Kent elevens have been considered among the strongest for just about the entire history of organised cricket; there were no organised competitions to judge them by, but at this time you wouldn't have found much argument against Kent being the leading side in the country, and they were definitely capable of beating All-England sides. For them to play the Gentlemen of Rugby would be not unlike a major college football team whose early schedule includes an FCS opponent; there's a very good reason why the odds are so heavy and nobody's interested. quote:Flashy waxing nostalgic over cricket The reverent, sincere tone here is just about indistinguishable to the sort of thing you'd find in the school stories like Teddy Lester, Captain of Cricket, which followed in the footsteps of Tom Brown's Schooldays. Absent the reference right at the end to him having a shag in the fields, the rest of it would not be even slightly out of place in any mainstream sepia-toned anthology of cricket writing. Read it alongside something like "The Flower Show Match" from Siegfried Sassoon's Memoirs of a Fox-Hunting Man, and see how the mood compares. quote:I see myself, an awkward overgrown boy, fielding anxiously at mid-on. And there’s Ned Noakes, the whiskered and one-eyed wicketkeeper, alert and active, though he’s forty-five if he’s a day. With his one eye (and a glass one) he sees more than most of us do, and his enthusiasm for the game is apparent in every attitude. Alongside of him lounges big Will Picksett, a taciturn good-natured young yokel; though over-deliberate in his movements, Will is a tower of strength in the team, and he sweeps half-volleys to the boundary with his enormous brown arms as though he were scything a hayfield. Of course, this being Flashman, it's probably going to end differently. Trin Tragula fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Jul 16, 2021 |
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I've never been able to make heads nor tails of cricket, but Fraser writes so well that this part of this book has always been a treat to read.
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quote:So I picked up a bat from beside the flagstaff, threaded my way through the crowd who turned to look curiously at the next man in, and stepped out on to the turf- you must have done it yourselves often enough, and remember the silence as you walk out to the wicket, so far away, and perhaps there's a stray handclap, or a cry of "Go it, old fellow!", and no more than a few spectators loafing round the ropes, and the fielding side sit or lounge about, stretching in the sun, barely glancing at you as you come in. I knew it well enough, but as I stepped over the ropes I happened to glance up - and Lord's truly smote me for the first time. Round the great emerald field, smooth as a pool table, there was this mighty mass of people, ten deep at the boundary, and behind them the coaches were banked solid, wheel to wheel, crowded with ladies and gentlemen, the whole huge multitude hushed and expectant while the sun caught the glittering eyes of thousands of opera-glasses and binocles glaring at me - it was damned unnerving, with that vast space to be walked across, and my bladder suddenly holding a bushel, and I wished I could scurry back into the friendly warm throng behind me. While he'd trade it all for another hour of living, Flashman's reputation already means a great deal to him. quote:It didn't last above a second, while I gulped and hesitated and strode on, and then the most astounding thing happened. A murmur passed along the banks of people, and then it grew to a roar, and suddenly it exploded in the most deafening cheering you ever heard; you could feel the shock of it rolling across the ground, and ladies were standing up and fluttering their handkerchieves and parasols, and the men were roaring hurrah and waving their hats, and jumping up on the carriages, and in the middle of it all the brass band began to thump out "Rule, Britannia", and I realized they weren't cheering the next man in, but saluting the hero of Jallalabad, and I was fairly knocked sideways by the surprise of it all. However, I fancy I played it pretty well, raising my white topper right and left while the music and cheering pounded on, and hurrying to get to the wicket as a modest hero should. And here was slim little Felix, in his classroom whiskers and charity boy's cap, smiling shyly and holding out his hand - Felix, the greatest gentleman bat in the world, mark you, leading me to the wicket and calling for three cheers from the Kent team. And then the silence fell, and my bat thumped uncommon loud as I hit it into the blockhole, and the fielders crouched, and I thought, oh God, this is the serious business, and I'm bound to lay an egg on the scorer, I know I am, and after such a welcome, too, and with my bowels quailing I looked up the wicket at Alfred Mynn. quote:He was a huge man at the best of times, six feet odd and close on twenty stone, with a face like fried ham garnished with a double helping of black whisker, but now he looked like Goliath, and if you think a man can't tower above you from twenty-five yards off, you ain't seen young Alfie. He was smiling, idly tossing up the ball which looked no bigger than a cherry in his massive fist, working one foot on the turf - pawing it, bigod. Old Aislabie gave me guard, quavered "Play!" I gripped my bat, and Mynn took six quick steps and swung his arm. Quite a trick. quote:... nought, and it was held to be a very fair score, although Kent were sure to pass it easily, and since it was a single-hand match that would be that. In spite of my blank score - how I wished I had gone for that single off the second ball! - I was well received round the pavilion, for it was known who I was by now, and several gentlemen came to shake my hand, while the ladies eyed my stalwart frame and simpered to each other behind their parasols; Elspeth was glowing at the splendid figure I had cut in her eyes, but indignant that I had been out when my wicket hadn't been knocked down, because wasn't that the object of the game? I explained that I had been caught out, and she said it was a most unfair advantage, and that little man in the cap must be a great sneak, at which the gentlemen around roared with laughter and ogled her, calling for soda punch for the lady and swearing she must be taken on to the committee to amend the rules. This is the perhaps the biggest show of adulation by the public Flashman recieves in the whole series, the hurrahs and medals after a successful adventure are usually more confined and orderly but here the mob just loves him. quote:On the whole he treated my first over with respect, for he took only eleven off it, which was better than I deserved. For of course I flung my deliveries down with terrific energy, the first one full pitch at his head, and the next three horribly short, in sheer nervous excitement. The crowd loved it, and so did Felix, curse him; he didn't reach the first one, but he drew the second beautifully for four, cut the third on tip-toe, and swept the last right off his upper lip and into the coaches near the pavilion. quote:Now, what I'd done to Felix was head bowling, but what came next was luck, and nothing else. I can't account for it yet, but it happened, and this is how it was. I did my damndest to repeat my great effort, but even faster this time, and in consequence I was just short of a length; whether Pilch was surprised by the speed, or the fact that the ball kicked higher than it had any right to do, I don't know, but he was an instant slow in reaching forward, which was his great shot. He didn't ground his bat in time, the ball came high off the blade, and I fairly hurled myself down the pitch, all arms and legs, grabbing at a catch I could have held in my mouth. I nearly muffed it, too, but it stuck between finger and thumb, and the next I knew they were pounding me on the back, and the townies were in full voice, while Pilch turned away slapping his bat in vexation. "Bloody gravel!" cries he. "Hasn't Dark got any brooms, then?" He may have been right, for all I know. quote:I'd got Felix by skill, Pilch by luck, and I'd get Mynn by knavery or perish in the attempt. I fairly flung myself up to the crease, and let go a perfect snorter, dead on a length but a good foot wide of the leg stump. It bucked, Mynn stepped quickly across to let it go by, it flicked his calf, and by that time I was bounding across Aislabie's line of sight, three feet off the ground, turning as I sprang and yelling at the top of my voice "How was he there, sir?" This part of Flashman's Lady is one of the greatest feats of writing in the franchise. The first time I read this I knew nothing more about cricket than what it looked like and roughly where it was popular. Despite this it was riveting! There is a time for show don't tell but this section tells the reader exactly how to feel and it works perfectly. And metaphorically, the three ways he gets them out, with situational observation, damned good luck, and abusing the system and those who count in it for all it's worth just sum him up so well. But this tale is not just about him, where's Elspeth? Arbite fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Jul 18, 2021 |
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I think you've missed a chunk of the quote on the third wicket there!
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"The minor ordeals can be damned scaring simply because you know you're going to survive them." That's a great quote about stage fright.
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Cricket annotations:quote:Felix, crouching facing me, barely ten feet away, edged just a little closer, his eyes fixed on my feet Felix is fielding in a position which is called "silly point". I promise I am not making this up. "Point" is a particular area on the field, and it's "silly" because he's extremely close to the bat, putting himself in personal danger by being there. If the batter hits the ball directly at him he'll do well to avoid not getting injured by the hard cricket ball with its raised seam. It's even sillier for Felix to be there to Mynn's bowling, because Mynn bowls fast, and the field would likely have been set further back from the bat for him. The catches that silly point usually takes all look like this, they come from looping mis-hits that only go to silly point from slow bowling. Usually if it looks like a ball is going to be hit hard anywhere near a fielder in a close-catching position, they will just try to get out of the way, they're not there to stop hard hits. For Felix to take a reaction catch at silly point from Mynn's bowling is practically superhuman, and I read this as Flashy exaggerating for the sake of a good dit, having had about 70 years to tell and re-tell it. If he were telling it in 1845, he'd probably have Felix fielding at point, a sensible 30-yard distance away from the bat, and over the years the field's got closer and closer. quote:We closed our hand at 91 This is the fundamental difference between cricket and baseball. Baseball is the pitcher's game; you expect to see the batter get out, and it's unusual to see the batting side score a run. Cricket is the batter's game; you expect to see the batter score runs, and it's unusual to see the fielding side get somebody out. At the time, 91 runs would have been a low but respectable score by amateurs playing the best side in England; albeit that Kent should be able to knock them off at a canter, as they do. quote:Flashman bowls Felix out Flashman's first scalp comes from one part skill and one part luck. He first primes Felix with bouncers, fast balls aimed at his body. Felix has enough skill to hit Flashy's bowling for runs rather than be intimidated by it; but it still means that Felix is preparing himself to deal with balls that come to him at hip level or higher. Flashman then manages to get the ball to bounce in just the right place (as it eventually will on a pitch from 1842); Felix sees where it's bouncing and expects it to come in at hip height again, and then is unable to adjust when it comes through as a shooter at ankle height. No Youtube, nobody puts shooters on there because you can't intentionally bowl one. quote:Golden duck for Pilch Pilch will have been watching all this, but first ball, he's unable to handle it when the ball bounces in a similar place to the last two, but comes through just a little higher than he's expecting. The ball goes straight back at Flashman, and Pilch is caught and bowled. Caught and bowled from a fast bowler is one of the more ridiculous and impressive feats a human body can pull off. The bowler runs in as fast as possible, goes through the unnatural bowling motion, and then takes several steps of follow-through to use up the momentum. In an instant, they must recognise that the ball is coming back at them, stop, and completely change their body position. Fraser has Flashy view this wicket as more luck than the first one, but assuming that Flashman's narrative can be relied on here, I'd say that the first wicket was more luck, and this one was more skill in being able to put the ball roughly where he was aiming, and then react and take the catch. quote:A shocker for Mynn Hopefully it's clear that what Flashy has done here is played the umpire (of whom more in a moment); he's bowled purely to hit Mynn, so he can then appeal to the umpire to give Mynn out LBW, regardless of where the ball was actually going. In cricket, a batter cannot be given out unless the fielding side first appeals, which is what all the shouting's about. In theory they are asking the umpire "How's that?"; in practice they are shouting any three or four syllables that roughly fit the pattern. The leg-before-wicket law is the most controversial in cricket because it requires the umpire to make a very difficult split-second judgement decision about where the ball would have gone if it had not hit the batter. The most important technological innovation in the history of cricket is Hawk-Eye (as demonstrated by Stephen Fry), a computer system to track and predict the path of the ball after it hits something, which is now used to assist umpires in international matches and which has unquestionably made umpires more accurate and the game better. quote:Three balls, three batters out For a bowler to take three wickets in successive balls is cricket's hat-trick, and it's also the supreme cricketing achievement, the equivalent of a pitcher's perfect game. The Oxford English Dictionary's lexicographers are confident that they can trace the term "hat-trick" to an 1858 match where a bowler took three wickets, the spectators had a whip-round for him, and then actually bought him a new hat with the proceeds. To anyone with a passing interest in etymology, this sounds like it should be complete bollocks bearing all the hallmarks of a too-good-to-be-true folk story, but I'll take the OED's word for it. quote:old Aislabie's a Rugby man, and it was out of pride in the old school that he arranged this fixture; honest as God, to be sure, but like all enthusiasts he'll see what he wants to see, won't he? Aislabie is a minor supporting character in Tom Brown's Schooldays; he appears in the final chapter as captain of the MCC side which comes to Rugby to play the whole school's eleven (Brown, of course, is captain of Rugby). Even then he's "old Mr Aislabie", so it makes sense that by now he's given up playing and taken up umpiring. He's not originally said to be an old Rugbeian, but it would explain how the original match came about, and it would explain why he would be willing to complete Flashman's redemption from being expelled as a drunkard to getting a hat-trick against three of England's leading batsmen. It also brings up a wonderfully-drawn irony; near the end of that original match (Flashman long since having been expelled in disgrace), Brown and Arthur have a rather vomitously lawful good conversation with an unnamed schoolmaster: quote:“Come, none of your irony, Brown,” answers the master. “I'm beginning to understand the game scientifically. What a noble game it is, too!” The match then ends in an extremely close defeat for Rugby, but one which the boys take as good as a win against the MCC, and it's sporting congratulations all round, moral victories, and lashings of ginger beer. Here, the Gentlemen of Rugby are well beaten, but there is still a large amount of glory in defeat to be had. All of which goes directly to Flashman, and his self-interest, and his unsportsmanlike appealing for things that he knows full well are not out, and drinking beer between innings. Trin Tragula fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Jul 16, 2021 |
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Trin Tragula posted:“That's very true,” said Tom, “and that's why football and cricket, now one comes to think of it, are such much better games than fives or hare-and-hounds, or any others where the object is to come in first or to win for oneself, and not that one's side may win.” I want to bully Tom Brown so bad
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# ? Jul 16, 2021 23:44 |
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Thanks for the cricket elaboration, it really is nice to have more context.
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# ? Jul 17, 2021 00:26 |
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Arbite posted:It was all taking shape even as I ran up to the wicket: I'd got Felix by skill, Pilch by luck, and I'd get Mynn by knavery or perish in the attempt. I fairly flung myself up to the crease, and let go a perfect snorter, dead on a length but a good foot wide of the leg stump. It bucked, Mynn stepped quickly across to let it go by, it flicked his calf, and by that time I was bounding across Aislabie's line of sight, three feet off the ground, turning as I sprang and tumultuous ovation from the gallery, which I acknowledged modestly with a tip of Mynn's hat, and basked in my glory for the rest of the match, which we lost by four wickets. (If only that splendid chap Flashman had been able to go on bowling, eh? Kent would have been knocked all to smash in no time. They do say he has a jezzail bullet in his right arm still - no it ain't, it was a spear thrust - I tell you I read it in the papers, etc., etc.) So this is a weird error in one of the epub books that's floating around, and when I read this, I was so determined to understand what was going on with this weird British game (and also figure out an inexplicable footnote about "hat tricks") that I took a look at a physical copy on the Internet Library. There's actually a rather large section cut out of this passage right after "turning as I sprang and". The actual passage goes: quote:It was all taking shape even as I ran up to the wicket: I'd got Felix by skill, Pilch by luck, and I'd get Mynn by knavery or perish in the attempt. I fairly flung myself up to the crease, and let go a perfect snorter, dead on a length but a good foot wide of the leg stump. It bucked, Mynn stepped quickly across to let it go by, it flicked his calf, and by that time I was bounding across Aislabie's line of sight, three feet off the ground, turning as I sprang and yelling at the top of my voice "How was he there, sir?" So yeah, Flashy doesn't just get lucky by winging Mynn's calf, he's being a poo poo and purposely trying to draw the penalty for Mynn for getting hit -- from the sounds of it, getting hit by a pitch is only an out if you were standing "before the stumps", and Mynn probably wasn't out of position until old Aislabie bothered to look. (It seems weird from a baseball perspective that hitting a batter rewards the pitcher here, when getting hit-by-pitch in baseball means the batter gets a free base.) This missing section also shows us that Flashman is apparently the origination of the phrase "hat trick" in sporting, and also explains how Flashman somehow acquired Mynn's hat in midsentence, so that he could tip it at the gallery when they applauded him. (e: you may want to consult another ebook if that's where you're pulling these sections from -- if I recall correctly, there are a few more of these missing sections throughout the text.) Phenotype fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Jul 17, 2021 |
# ? Jul 17, 2021 21:45 |
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Yeah with lbw the idea is that the only legitimate thing to defend your wicket stumps with is your bat. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underarm_bowling_incident_of_1981 for another incident of cricketing perfidy for which our criminal cousins are still infamous
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Genghis Cohen & Phenotype posted:Missing content. Well that's vexing, I'll have to be more careful. I've added it now, thank you both.
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# ? Jul 18, 2021 04:55 |
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sebmojo posted:Yeah with lbw the idea is that the only legitimate thing to defend your wicket stumps with is your bat. Let's not forget bodyline bowling, the cricket equivalent of "if thou canst not taketh the ball, taketh the man".
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# ? Jul 18, 2021 12:10 |
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quote:Even the doddering Duke came up to compliment me and say that my style reminded him absolutely of his own—“Did I not remark it to you, my dear?” says he to his languid tart, who was fidgeting with her parasol and stifling a yawn while showing me her handsome profile and weighing me out of the corner of her eye. “Did I not observe that Mr Flashman’s shooter was just like the one I bowled out Beauclerk with at Maidstone in ’06?—directed to his off stump, sir, caught him goin’ back, you understand, pitched just short, broke and shot, middle stump, bowled all over his wicket—ha! ha! what?” quote:“Mr Flashman, sir, best respex,” says he, and tapped his low-crown hat with his cudgel. “You’ll forgive the liberty, I’m sure—Tighe’s the monicker, Daedalus Tighe, ev’yone knows me, agent an’ accountant to the gentry—” and he pushed a card in my direction between sweaty fingers. “Takin’ the hoppor-toonity, my dear sir an’ sportsman, of presentin’ my compliments an’ best vishes, an’—” Much like in Great Game, Fraser restricts to comical accents to the British & Irish. A Jemmy, or Jimmy o' goblins, refers not to a guinea, but to a sovereign, which was worth a shilling less. In todays cash he's trying to hand Flashman about £6,000. quote:And damned if the weasel at his elbow wasn’t thrusting a glass of champagne at me with one hand and a fistful of bills in the other. I stopped short, staring. And who is this second unwelcome presence? Tune in next time! Should be a shorter wait now that the logistics are sorted. Arbite fucked around with this message at 07:48 on Jul 23, 2021 |
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How are u posted:Thanks for the cricket elaboration, it really is nice to have more context. However, it confirms my experience from having other British and Aussie friends explain it: even with footnotes and context, I fundamentally cannot understand this game. I think you probably have to watch it while also reviewing the rules or something.
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Notahippie posted:However, it confirms my experience from having other British and Aussie friends explain it: even with footnotes and context, I fundamentally cannot understand this game. I think you probably have to watch it while also reviewing the rules or something. There's an extended set piece joke in one of the Aubrey/Maturin books that relies on the differences between English cricket and Irish hurling and after hours and hours on wikipedia and numerous explanations on this forum, I *still* don't get it.
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# ? Jul 19, 2021 20:07 |
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*90s standup comedian* English people cricket like this, but Irish people hurl like this.
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# ? Jul 19, 2021 20:20 |
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:There's an extended set piece joke in one of the Aubrey/Maturin books that relies on the differences between English cricket and Irish hurling and after hours and hours on wikipedia and numerous explanations on this forum, I *still* don't get it. I thought that bit was fairly simple - Maturin, sent in to bat for his ship's side, has completely misunderstood Aubrey's explanation of the rules. He runs out to catch the ball with his hurling bat, dribbles forward and knocks down the other batsman's wicket. It's as if (in football, aka soccer) a midfielder had got possession of the ball, sprinted toward his own team's goal and scored an own goal. I don't think there's much detailed knowledge of hurling required, it's more that Maturin didn't follow which team was supposed to guard the wickets.
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# ? Jul 19, 2021 21:14 |
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Just one cricket annotation, for the doddering Duke:quote:the one I bowled out Beauclerk with This would be the Rev Lord Frederick de Vere Beauclerk, one of the more colourful characters of pre-Victorian cricket (and that's really saying something), and certainly a man who you'd never shut up about if you'd ever bowled him out. Even by the standards of the time he was a dedicated gambler and devoted gamesman who probably could have taught Flashman a thing or two about the dark arts. Were he a hundred years younger and from Australia, he'd probably be a national icon. In the grand tradition of younger sons of the nobility, he went into the Church and proceeded to have as little to do with religion as possible, lest it get in the way of his cricket. He played first-class cricket for some 35 years, much of it for the MCC, was genuinely an excellent all-rounder and tactician, and had a significant impact on the early laws of the game, often using this and spurious/hypocritical accusations of match-fixing to settle scores. It is said that right up to his death in 1850 he was regularly seen at Lord's, and so perhaps he was there on the boundary nodding in appreciation at Flashman's appeal for LBW.
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# ? Jul 19, 2021 21:38 |
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There's enough parallels with baseball I get the general idea, with a few lookups.
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# ? Jul 19, 2021 21:40 |
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Genghis Cohen posted:I thought that bit was fairly simple - Maturin, sent in to bat for his ship's side, has completely misunderstood Aubrey's explanation of the rules. He runs out to catch the ball with his hurling bat, dribbles forward and knocks down the other batsman's wicket. It's as if (in football, aka soccer) a midfielder had got possession of the ball, sprinted toward his own team's goal and scored an own goal. Just picture Maturin joining a pickup basketball game then immediately drop-kicking the ball over the backboard and declaring victory.
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# ? Jul 19, 2021 22:24 |
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withak posted:Just picture Maturin joining a pickup basketball game then immediately drop-kicking the ball over the backboard and declaring victory.
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# ? Jul 19, 2021 22:28 |
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quote:I came to a dead halt, silent—for three reasons. First, I was astonished. Secondly, he was a big, vigorous brute, by what I could see of him—which was a massive pair of shoulders in a handsomely-cut broadcloth (no expense spared there), and thirdly, it passed quickly through my mind that Elspeth, apart from being my wife, was also my source of supply. Food for thought, you see, but before I had even an instant to taste it, they both turned their heads and I saw that Elspeth was in the act of stringing a shaft to a ladies’ bow—giggling and making a most appealing hash of it—while her escort, standing close in behind her, was guiding her hands, which of course necessitated putting his arms about her, with her head against his shoulder. I doubt if I've ever seen that portrayed as anything but an excuse to get up close and touchy in media. quote:“Why, Harry,” cries she, “where have you been all this while? See, Don Solomon is teaching me archery—and I have been making the sorriest show!” Which she demonstrated by fumbling the shaft, swinging her bow arm wildly, and letting fly into the hedge, squeaking with delighted alarm. “Oh, I am quite hopeless, Don Solomon, unless you hold my hands!” And here begins Fraser's unflattering comparisons between Flash and Don Solomon. When moralists like Brown disparage Flashman it's good fun to laugh at the square but suddenly here's a man who would be the real fan favourite anti-hero of this story and perhaps many more were it not for protagonist-bias through GMF's brillaint writing. quote:“Oh, Harry, we have had such fun!” cries Elspeth, and my heart gave a little jump as I looked at her. The gold ringlets under her ridiculous bonnet, the perfect pink and white complexion, the sheer innocent beauty of her as she sparkled with laughter and reached out a hand to me. “Don Solomon has shown me bowling, and how to shoot—ever so badly!—and entertained me—for the cricket came so dull when you were not playing, with those tedious Kentish people popping away, and—” Right from the start, Don Solomon is doing everything right to endear himself to those around him, with an almost superhuman gift for figuring out the exact right thing to say. quote:“Well, I’m blessed! Why, Mrs Flashman, your husband ain’t just a hero—he’s a prodigy!” At which Elspeth glowed and squeezed my hand, which banished the last of my temper. “Felix. Pilch, and Mynn! Extraordinary. Well—I thought I was something of a cricketer, in my humble way—I played at Eton, you know—we never had a match with Rugby, alas! but I fancy I’d be a year or two before your time, anyway, old fellow. But this quite beats everything!” It's even more clear further in the book that if Don Solomon were less gregarious or overtly wealthy then the whole society'd have nothing to do with him. quote:So the great day ended, which I’ll never forget for its own splendid sake: Felix, Pilch, and Mynn, and those three ear-splitting yells from the mob as each one fell. It was a day that held the seed of great events, too, as you’ll see, and the first tiny fruit was waiting for us when we got back to Mayfair. It was a packet handed in at the door, and addressed to me, enclosing bills for fifty pounds, and a badly-printed note saying “With the compliments of D. Tighe, Esq.” Of all the infernal impudence; that bloody bookie, or whatever he was, having the starch to send cash to me, as though I were some pro, to be tipped. Now for something completely different, we have Elspeth's perspective. quote:[Extract from the diary of Mrs H. Flashman, undated, 1842] A lot to take in here, not least her own style of racism. I do love how her denials and concerns regarding her spouse's relations so closely parallel his own. And yes, the tedious censor is back, removing bloody but leaving the N-word. Victorians. Arbite fucked around with this message at 07:47 on Jul 23, 2021 |
# ? Jul 21, 2021 10:39 |
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Now a little timeskip. quote:It was eight months before I so much as gave a thought to cricket again, but I’m bound to say that even if it had been blazing summer from October to March I’d still have been too busy. You can’t conduct a passionate affair with Lola Montez, in which you fall foul of Otto Bismarck—which is what I was doing that autumn—and still have much time for recreation. Besides, this was the season when my fame was at its zenith, what with my visit to the Palace for the Kabul medal; in consequence I was in demand everywhere, and Elspeth, in her eagerness for the limelight, saw to it that I never had a moment’s peace—balls and parties and receptions, and devil a minute for serious raking. It was splendid, of course, to be the lion of the hour, but confounded exhausting. That is a hell of a lot of effort to go to and the man must be savvy enough to know Victorians would drop him like a bad habit the second any of his favourable points lapsed, what's his goal here? quote:I didn’t mind him much, myself; he went out of his way to be pleasant to me, and once I had satisfied myself that his enthusiasm for Elspeth wasn’t likely to go the length, I tolerated him. She was ready to flirt with anything in breeches—and more than flirt, I suspected, but there were horny captains I was far leerier of than the Don. That bastard Watney, for one, and the lecherous snob Ranelagh, and I fancy young Conyngham was itching after her, too. But Solomon had no name as a rake; didn’t even keep a mistress, apparently, and did no damage round Windmill Street or any of my haunts, leastways. Another odd thing: he didn’t touch liquor, in any form. Yeah, it could be pretty bad. Also I was shocked to learn Gommeril was not racist but just meant a stupid person. quote:“The amendment can’t pass for another two years,” says Solomon quietly, and Morrison glowered at him. It's amazing how easily Fraser makes Flashman's antagonists just instantly despicable. quote:Solomon soothed him by saying he was sure Morrison’s factories were paradise on earth, but added gravely that between the Horne report and slack trade generally, he couldn’t see many good pickings for manufacturers for some years to come. Overseas investment, that was the thing; why, there were millions a year to be made out of the Orient, by men who knew their business (as he did), and while Morrison sniffed a bit, and called it prospectus talk, you could see he was interested despite himself. He began to ask questions, and argue, and Solomon had every answer pat; I found it a dead bore, and left them prosing away, with my guv’nor snoring and belching at the table head—the most sensible noises I’d heard all night. But later, old Morrison was heard to remark that yon young Solomon had a heid on his shoothers, richt enough, a kenspeckle lad—no’ like some that sauntered and drank awa’ their time, an’ sponged off their betters, etc. And with that casual reminder of who we're dealing with let's call it for now. Arbite fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Jul 25, 2021 |
# ? Jul 23, 2021 07:46 |
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Fraser drops contemporary allusions like they're going out of fashion to establish the Don's bona fides.Arbite posted:he was some kind of nabob, with connections in Leadenhall Street His connections in Leadenhall Street can be taken either as referring to the heart of the financial centre in the Square Mile generally; or more specifically as a reference to East India House, headquarters of John Company. By this point they've occupied the building for nearly 200 years. It was demolished shortly after the fall of the Company, and the Lloyds Building stands there now, one of the most iconic buildings in modern architecture. quote:he was friendly with Haddington and Stanley at one end of the scale The 9th Earl of Haddington (a Tory) has just been made First Lord of the Admiralty after declining Governor-General of India; "Stanley" could be one of a few individuals but is most likely Edward John Stanley (a Whig), most recently Paymaster-General, and who in the fullness of time will succeed to the family barony, and be President of the Board of Trade and Paymaster-General, and father ten legitimate children. quote:and with such rascals as Deaf Jim Burke and Brougham at t’other Deaf Jim Burke is a 32-year-old champion boxer whose life and career are heading rapidly downhill; in three years he will die in poverty. "Brougham" is unclear, but may be a queeny cheap shot at the recently-ennobled Lord Brougham, who while serving as Lord Chancellor was one of the chief architects of the Great Reform Act and the Slavery Abolition Act a year later, which would not have endeared him to Flashy one bit. He commissioned the original example of the horse-drawn carriage that was of such use to Sherlock Holmes, and his long association with Cannes helped establish it as a popular resort for Europe's well-heeled. quote:One night he would be dining with Aberdeen, and the next at Rosherville Gardens or the Cider Cellars "Aberdeen", the fourth Earl, whose diplomacy was critical to the Sixth Coalition against Napoleon. He's currently the Foreign Secretary and in 1842 oversaw the signing of the Webster-Ashburton Treaty between the USA and Canada, and the ending of the First Opium War, with the establishment of the Chinese treaty ports and perpetual (cough) British sovereignty over Hong Kong. Rosherville Gardens is a recently opened pleasure garden in Gravesend, well outside London, and one of the first modern tourist traps. It's easy to think that it came with the railways, but in fact it was built to be served by boat travel along the Thames; the railways will not arrive until 1886, and almost immediately kill the gardens stone dead, as they also go to the coastal towns. The gardens are currently somewhat declasse, but will achieve greater respectability with the passage of time. The Cider Cellars, meanwhile, were remembered with no little nostalgia a generation later by Gustav Dore: quote:How long ago is it since gentlemen of the highest degree went to the Cider Cellars and the Coal Hole? Speculating on the changes in London at play, within the last five-and-twenty years, in that corner of Evans's where, any night, you could at once tell by a sudden influx that the House was up; we trundle back through the seasons, to the time when the bar parlour of the Cider Cellars-a dirty, stifling underground tavern in Maiden Lane, behind the Strand-was the meeting place from Fop's Alley, after the opera. The Cave of Harmony was a cellar for shameful song-singing-where members of both Houses, the pick of the Universities, and the bucks of the Row, were content to dwell in indecencies for ever. From his London: A Pilgrimage, nothing so much as a key prosecution exhibit when modern travel writers are brought up on charges of unoriginality. quote:the latest joke about Nelson’s Column, The genesis of the column was far from smooth; the original contest to design it had to be re-run, the winning design had to be lowered to stop it falling over under its own weight, construction of the column took four years (far longer than planned) from 1840 to 1844, the organising committee then ran out of public subscription money and the Government had to rescue the project, and when bronze reliefs from Nelson's life were added to the base (starting in 1850), the final one was found to have been adulterated with iron and the manufacturers were convicted of fraud. Not entirely unlike the Millennium Dome. quote:had songs from the “Bohemian Girl” played in his drawing-room The premiere of The Bohemian Girl came in 1843 and it remained in the repertoire until the 1930s; just before it disappeared, it inspired a Laurel and Hardy movie. It was translated into French as "La bohemme", and should not be confused with Puccini's later La boheme. quote:The Mines Act and the Factories Act The Mines Act 1842 is accurately described in the text; the Don is being slightly optimistic about the passage of a Factories Bill, which did not come until 1847, and then it took two subsequent Acts to fix some serious errors of drafting. When in full effect in 1853, it did indeed establish the ten-hour working day, conclusively proved Morrison's objections to be absolute bullshit, and led to a whole series of successor Factories Acts over the next hundred years. Oh yeah, cricket. quote:I’d been having a few games for the Montpeliers at the old Beehive field The Montpelier CC was at the time one of London's leading town clubs. In the same way that MCC had earlier moved to Lord's, and eventually begat Middlesex County Cricket Club, in 1845 Montpelier moved to Kennington Common, begat Surrey CCC, and founded the Oval. They currently play at a ground officially known as Aram's, but its popular name is based on a nearby pub and so of course Flashy knows it by that name.
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# ? Jul 23, 2021 11:02 |
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Love the additional context, thank you so much!
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# ? Jul 23, 2021 15:32 |
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Arbite posted:Now a little timeskip. Am pretty sure that the word Flashman's spinster sister-in-law redacted "d---l"; is devil, as in "and devil a minute for serious raking."
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Just out of interest - how much do you know about the Victorian boxing scene? I thought Fraser's "Black Ajax" (featuring Flashman's "guv'nor") would make for an interesting interlude.
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Lola Montez is an interesting individual. quote:When she had her London debut as "Lola Montez, the Spanish dancer" in June 1843, she was recognized as "Mrs. James." The resulting notoriety hampered her career in England, so she departed for the continent, where she had success in Paris and Warsaw.[10] At this time, she was almost certainly accepting favours from a few wealthy men, and was regarded by many as a courtesan Went on to become Ludwig I of Bavaria's mistress (and power behind the throne), flee several countries, run through a series of lovers and husbands (who tended to die unfortunately).
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quote:So you can see a change of scene was just what old Flashy needed; if I’d known the change I was going to get I’d have paid off the acrobat, let Mrs Lade go hang, and allowed Montez one clear shot at me running—and thought myself lucky. But we can’t see into the future, thank God. The full report is available here. I'm sure humanity's capacity to exploit when nothing is there to stop it will shock nobody. Also the visual of the fretting rich man snuffing out the lights in a daze reminded me of an identical scene decades later from the memorable "Queen of Versailles" documentary. Gotta have control over something, however small. quote:Of course Haslam said he must come with us; the change of air would do him good; myself. I thought a change from air was what the old pest required, but there was nothing I could do about it, and since my first game for Mynn’s crew was on a Monday afternoon, it was arranged that the party should travel down the day before. I managed to steer clear of that ordeal, pleading business—in fact, young Conyngham had bespoken a room at the Magpie for a hanging on the Monday morning, but I didn’t let on to Elspeth about that. Don Solomon convoyed the party to the station for the special he’d engaged. Elspeth with enough trunks and bandboxes to start a new colony, old Morrison wrapped in rugs and bleating about the iniquity of travelling by railroad on the sabbath, and Judy, my father’s bit, watching the performance with her crooked little smile. Once again smashing the reader in the face with who we're dealing with. Also the Conyngham in question was reputed to be of the worst of Ireland's absentee landlords. And now apropos of nothing, here's the death penalty in action. quote:I forget who they hung on the Monday, and it don’t matter anyway, but it was the only Newgate scragging I ever saw, and I had an encounter afterwards which is part of my tale. When I got to the Magpie on Sunday evening, Conyngham and his pals weren’t there, having gone across to the prison chapel to see the condemned man attend his last service; I didn’t miss a great deal apparently, for when they came back they were crying that it had been a dead bore—just the chaplain droning away and praying, and the murderer sitting in the black pen talking to the turnkey. The infamous Newgate prison stood for seven centuries in London and the site is these days overtaken completely by Old Bailey. A very popular setting in crime fiction, to be sure. quote:I reckon the young sparks didn’t get it, though, for all they saw in the end was a man lying fast asleep on his stone bench, with his jailer resting on a mattress alongside; one or two of our party, having recovered their spunk by that time, wanted to wake him up, in the hope that he’d rave and pray. I suppose; Conyngham, who was wilder than most, broke a bottle on the bars and roared at the fellow to stir himself, but he just turned over on his side, and a little beadle-like chap in a black coat and tall hat came on the scene in a tearing rage to have us turned out. Not as suspenseful as the last execution scene Fraser wrote but quite effective in its way. As for the mysterious gentleman: Author's note posted:From Flashman’s description of the “bluff-looking chap in clerical duds” with the crippled arm, it seems certain that he was Richard Harris Barham (1788-1845), author of The Ingoldsby Legends, of which one of the most famous relates how Lord Tomnoddy, accompanied by “…M’Fuze, and Lieutenant Tregooze, and…Sir Carnaby Jenks of the Blues”, attended a Newgate execution, and revelled the previous night at the Magpie and Stump, overlooking the street where the scaffold was erected. However, Barham’s inspiration did not come from the execution which Flashman describes; he wrote his famous piece of gallows humour some years earlier, but may well have attended later executions out of interest. Thackeray’s presence is interesting, since it suggests that he had got over the revulsion he felt at Courvoisier’s hanging three years earlier, when he could not bear to watch the final moment. (See Barham; The Times, July 7, 1840, and May 27, 1868, reporting the Courvoisier and Barret executions; Thackeray’s “Going to See a Man Hanged”, Fraser’s Magazine, July 1840; Dickens’ Barnaby Rudge and “A Visit to Newgate”, from Sketches by Boz; and Arthur Griffiths’ Chronicles of Newgate 1884 and Criminal Prisons of London 1862.) For those who want a more detailed look at the Newgate execution process in a well done work of fiction, I strongly recommend Bernard Cornwalls' "Gallow's Thief." That book has none of his usual tropes (Good priest/bad priest, Nature culture vs nurture culture, Britain vs whoever,) and the narration by Jonathan Keeble for the audio version is superb. The climax lacks the comedy but keeps the tension from the end of 'Flashman and the Great Game.' Arbite fucked around with this message at 14:02 on Aug 11, 2021 |
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quote:I went downstairs and stood waiting for the crowd to thin, but most of ’em were still waiting in the hopes of catching a glimpse of the hanging corpse, which they couldn’t see for the throng in front. I was wondering how far I’d have to walk for a hack, when a man loomed up in front of me, and after a moment I recognised the red face, button eyes, and flash weskit of Mr Daedalus Tighe. While it would be utterly ruinous for Flashman to have his 'honor' impugned by association or credible accusation, Mr. Tighe is recklessly playing with his own life as he's not the sort who'd be missed by society. quote:I considered the remarkable Mr Tighe all the way to Canterbury, too, and concluded that if he was fool enough to throw money away, that was his business—what kind of odds could he hope to get on my losing my wicket, for after all, I batted well down the list, and might easily carry my bat through the hand? Who’d wager above three hundred on that? Well, that was his concern, not mine—but I’d have to keep a close eye on him, and not become entangled with his sort; at least he wasn’t expecting me to throw the game, but quite the reverse; he was trying to bribe me to do well, in fact. H’m. quote:At this Elspeth was so overcome that she began piping her eye, and her tits shook so violently that the old Duke, on Solomon’s other side, coughed his false teeth into his wine-glass and had to be put to rights by the butler. Solomon, for once, was looking a little embarrassed; he shrugged and gave me a look that was almost appealing. “I’m sorry, old boy,” says he, “but I mean it.” I couldn’t fathom this—he might be sorry to miss Elspeth; what man wouldn’t? But had I been so friendly?—well, I’d been civil enough, and I was her husband; perhaps that charming manner of mine which Tom Hughes mentioned had had its effect on this emotional dago. Anyway, something seemed called for. It's a beautiful sight, seeing Flashman get worked by the high and low of society without realizing. quote:“Well, Don,” says I, “we’ll all be sorry to lose you, and that’s a fact. You’re a damned stout chap—that is, I mean, you’re one of the best, and couldn’t be better if…if you were English.” I wasn’t going to gush all over him, you understand, but the company murmured “Hear, hear,” and after a moment Mynn tapped the table to second me. “Well,” says I, “let’s drink his health, then.” And everyone did, while Solomon gave me his bland smile, inclining his head. The Life Guards would be a posting none could refuse and the fact Harry isn't paying the £163k (today) price for a commission shows how absurd it would be for him to turn it down. quote:He shrugged good-humouredly. “That’s settled, then. A pity, but—” he smiled consolingly at Elspeth, who was looking down-in-the-mouth “—perhaps another year. Unless, in Harry’s enforced absence, your father could be persuaded to accompany us?” Crunchy blancmange, eh? Well, on that comedic precipice we'll leave it for now. Arbite fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Aug 11, 2021 |
# ? Jul 27, 2021 12:19 |
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Décolleté; that's a word I'll have to stick in somewhere.
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# ? Jul 28, 2021 09:17 |
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Well, surely the matter is settled and that is that.
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# ? Jul 30, 2021 17:59 |
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quote:And he got it—to this day I can’t be certain that it was contrived by Solomon, but I’ll wager it was. For next morning the old hound was taken ill again—I don’t know if surfeit of blancmange can cause nervous collapse, but by afternoon he was groaning in bed, shuddering as with a fever, and Solomon insisted on summoning his own medico from Town, a dundreary-looking cove with a handle to his name and a line in unctuous gravity that must have been worth five thousand a year in Mayfair. He looked down solemnly at the sufferer, who was huddled under the clothes like a rat in its burrow, two beady eyes in a wrinkled face, and his nose quivering in apprehension. He's getting better at smelling rats, is young Harry. quote:There followed painful private scenes between Elspeth and me. I said if old Morrison wanted to sail away with Don Solomon, he was more than welcome. She replied that it was unthinkable for dear Papa to go without her to look after him; it was absolutely her duty to accept Don Solomon’s generous offer and accompany the old goat. If I insisted on staying at home in the Army, of course she would be desolate without me—but why, oh why, could I not come anyway?—what did the Army matter, we had money enough, and so forth. I said no again, and added that it was a piece of impudence of Solomon’s even to suggest that she should go without me, at which she burst into tears and said I was odiously jealous, not only of her, but of Don Solomon’s breeding and address and money, just because I hadn’t any myself, and I was spitefully denying her a little pleasure, and there could be no possible impropriety with dear Papa to chaperon her, and I was trying to shovel the old sod into an early grave, or words to that effect. But nevermind that poo poo, back to the main event! quote:So a couple of days passed, in which I played cricket for Mynn’s side, tumbling a few wickets with my shiverers, and slogging a few runs (not many, but 18 in one innings, which pleased me, and catching out Pilch again, one hand, very low down, when he tried to cut Mynn past point and I had to go full length to it. Pilch swore it was a bump, but it wasn’t—you may be sure I’d tell you if it had been). Meanwhile Elspeth basked in admiration and the gay life, Solomon was the perfect host and escort, old Morrison sat on the terrace grumbling and reading sermons and share prices, and Judy promenaded with Elspeth, looking cattish and saying nothing. Morality and consideration would become a hell of a convoluted thing for Victorians. quote:The door hadn’t closed before I was trying to disengage, but without success, for Mrs Lade’s hands reached back in an instant, clamping her claws into my rear, her head tilting back beside mine. “No, no, no, not yet!” gasps she, chewing away at me. “Don’t go!” It's never mentioned but I wonder if "The old Duke" was meant to be a specific figure from 1842? An abstract representation is more probable but it would be neat if there was a likely candidate. Anyway, bring us home, Elspeth! quote:[Extract from the diary of Mrs Flashman, June—, 1843] People writing two different worlds right next to each other. They're so perfect together.
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# ? Jun 11, 2024 00:18 |
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They truly deserve each other.
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