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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:GRRM came to the bookstore I was working at about a decade ago and someone asked him about the long summers and orbital periods and he was asking if all of this complicated math he did explained how the world could be the way it was and GRRM just said "it's like that because I made it up..." Up there with George Lucas answering what the gang got up to after RotJ with "they died"
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It would definitely help if GRRM explained why his I, Claudius spinoff novel series has weather that makes agriculture and therefore the civilization as a whole literally impossible.
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Jul 21, 2021 18:14
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Up there with George Lucas answering what the gang got up to after RotJ with "they died" Now that the sequel trilogy's done no one can say he was wrong.
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:GRRM came to the bookstore I was working at about a decade ago and someone asked him about the long summers and orbital periods and he was asking if all of this complicated math he did explained how the world could be the way it was and GRRM just said "it's like that because I made it up..." Don’t worry ten years of no books has led to some crazy poo poo https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/oo11tu/spoilers_extended_chapter_6_the_blood_betrayal/
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Jul 21, 2021 20:04
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Don’t worry ten years of no books has led to some crazy poo poo Oh yes straight into my loving veins!
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Awww here it goes https://www.vulture.com/amp/2021/07/watch-sandra-oh-stars-in-the-chair-netflix-trailer.html https://youtu.be/-qtUYe_6Uus New D&D netflix show. Poor Sandra Oh. She may actually make the show good, and then D&D will take credit. Ugh. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Jul 22, 2021 |
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Jul 22, 2021 01:50
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Zaphod42 posted:Awww here it goes That does actually sound like a good premise for a show
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Don’t worry ten years of no books has led to some crazy poo poo Is that just book 6, because I am not reading 1400 pages of fan theories...
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bobjr posted:How many times did Tolkien interrupt the plot to put in a page description of food Food? Not often. Some elven wood carvings by a door? That's about half the book.
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Is that just book 6, because I am not reading 1400 pages of fan theories... Fan theories are all we've had for a decade, and all we'll ever have for decades more.
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Jul 22, 2021 11:59
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Zzulu posted:GRRM owns
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Is he still painting miniatures in his spare time or what
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mp5 posted:Is he still painting miniatures in his spare time or what He’s renovating his house into a pueblo revival style castle and funding a railway restoration and expansion project for his home town with all the money HBO gave him for writing 65% of a story and a napkin scribble ending that two other rubes took the heat for. GRRM’s living what’s diminishingly left of his best life and don’t give a gently caress no more.
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Jul 23, 2021 23:14
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I find I have no animosity towards him at all. Good for you, GRRM. Enjoy.
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mp5 posted:Is he still painting miniatures in his spare time or what You have it backwards, the spare time is what he uses for writing. He doesn’t have much though, he has lots of hobbies.
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Jul 24, 2021 03:51
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Honestly if I were GRRM I wouldn't finish the books either. The man's over 70 and probably not long for this world, I'm content to let him live out his remaining time enjoying the fruits of his labor. We aren't owed anything but I would love it if he'd actually finish them. It won't be the end of the world if he doesn't though, and we might prefer that to a second bad ending anyway
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Jul 24, 2021 03:56
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Yeah I mean good on him After the way the show treated the material I don't think there's any way people will really be satisfied in the end anyway
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Jul 24, 2021 04:13
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mp5 posted:Yeah I mean good on him I mean, you can almost see glimpses of it. They just left out so many important plots like the Targaryen pretenders/Jon Connington and all of Dorne so they didn’t have the right threads to finish the stitch.
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Jul 24, 2021 04:24
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Yes, he's an old man now. That doesn't really change the fact that he could have just sat down and finished a long time ago. A Storm Of Swords came out in 2000, I don't think writing four books in 21 years is unreasonable assuming you actually sit down and write.
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Jul 24, 2021 06:22
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Stephen King would have knocked this thing out in 2 years
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HonorableTB posted:Honestly if I were GRRM I wouldn't finish the books either. The man's over 70 and probably not long for this world, I'm content to let him live out his remaining time enjoying the fruits of his labor. We aren't owed anything but I would love it if he'd actually finish them. It won't be the end of the world if he doesn't though, and we might prefer that to a second bad ending anyway Maybe I'm just a big entitled baby, but I mostly disagree with this. I don't know if "owes" is necessarily the right word, but when you set out to write a big epic series and just call it quits before finishing, I do feel like you've failed your part in the reader/author relationship. Obviously, in some cases such as when a sickness or death is involved there's not much that can be done and it's regrettable, but here it feels like he just chose not to finish it, and I don't think that's cool at all. He's a rich and successful failure, and if that's enough for him, then that's fine. But he did fail. So in that regard, he's got a lot in common with Benioff and Weiss. Andrew Verse fucked around with this message at 07:23 on Jul 24, 2021 |
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At the very least, it's plain deceptive to promise something you have no intention of finishing, and continuing to promise things you know to be a lie is just dickhead poo poo, y'know? It'ssm just douchey, and I think it's okay to feel that poo poo without implying anything needs to be done about it.
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I agree that it's a lovely thing to do, it's just at the end of the day he's still written and published five books more than I have so I try to keep my feelings of disappointment in check
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I still think he intends to finish it. He must know at the back of his mind that it's not going to happen but he tells himself otherwise. I wouldn't be surprised if the guy has massive anxiety about the whole thing.
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he should just release it as youtube lore videos. it would be easier on him and is the primary way most people absorb the story anyways
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Wasabi the J posted:At the very least, it's plain deceptive to promise something you have no intention of finishing, and continuing to promise things you know to be a lie is just dickhead poo poo, y'know? Yeah it's like, not cool. And that's it.
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I think his biggest problem is that he decided to write through the timeskip instead of just having the timeskip. It's during this portion that the amount of PoV characters really started ballooning as well. He has a clear endpoint for himself but now he needs to get there in a way that makes sense.
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PostNouveau posted:Stephen King would have knocked this thing out in 2 years You say that, but the last time he tried to write a 7 part epic it wasn't exactly quick.
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I’m of the opinion that he’s actually finished all the books but he’s gonna release them right when he dies. He doesn’t need the money and if the books totally suck he’ll be dead and won’t know or care how they’re received.
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Baron von Eevl posted:You say that, but the last time he tried to write a 7 part epic it wasn't exactly quick. Kind of an apples and oranges comparison here, since King was pumping out multiple novels in the intervening years between Dark Tower books. Say what you want about the quality of his late period stuff, the guy is amazingly prolific and consistent in his output. Gunslinger was published in 82, Drawing of the Three was 86, Waste Lands was 91, Wizard and Glass was 97. The last 3 were released back to back in 03 and 04, which suggests he was working on them while recovering from a serious accident that nearly killed him. Even if the timing had kept up the same cadence as the first four books - i.e add a year to the wait time for the previous book - that would mean King would be publishing the final Dark Tower book this year. Honestly the series would've probably been better that way but c'est la vie. Meanwhile GRRM has done basically nothing but consulting and vanity projects for the past decade with no substantive new writing to show for it. I can't blame him for wanting to enjoy his windfall and prioritizing his happiness in his golden years over the demands of fans. It's lame we'll never get to read his version of the ending but in the big scheme of things it makes no difference. Mat Cauthon fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Jul 24, 2021 |
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I don't even care about a full resolution of the series, I just want to read about the Mannis owning the Boltons. Which will likely happen in the first few chapters of the next book. (Before his fall from grace and sacrifice of Shireen, etc etc) Just give me this. This is all I want.
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PostNouveau posted:Stephen King would have knocked this thing out in 2 years There was some thing a few years back where GRRM interviewed or had a discussion with King at some event, and one of the first questions he asked him was something like "how the gently caress are you able to write so much and so fast"
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Mat Cauthon posted:Kind of an apples and oranges comparison here, since King was pumping out multiple novels in the intervening years between Dark Tower books. Say what you want about the quality of his late period stuff, the guy is amazingly prolific and consistent in his output. While the first book was published in a single volume in 82, he started it in loving 1970.
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There was definitely a time in season 1-2 where a lot of book readers were sure the show would force him to really focus on getting the books out, then by season 3-4 there was more anger/annoyance that the books kept getting delayed, but now I see hardly anyone mad that the books will likely never come out.
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GRRM’s largest problem is he doesn’t write with any outline and has openly said that knowing the ending bores him which is bad for writing an epic multi part fantasy series that started out as a trilogy and has continually added more books along the way because he doesn’t put limits on himself. Books 4 and 5 (which is effectively just a single installment split in half) don’t even have endings. A good third of the next book will be stuff he never finished for the last two.
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moosecow333 posted:I’m of the opinion that he’s actually finished all the books but he’s gonna release them right when he dies. Shimrra Jamaane posted:GRRM’s largest problem is he doesn’t write with any outline and has openly said that knowing the ending bores him which is bad for writing an epic multi part fantasy series that started out as a trilogy and has continually added more books along the way because he doesn’t put limits on himself. Books 4 and 5 (which is effectively just a single installment split in half) don’t even have endings. A good third of the next book will be stuff he never finished for the last two. Wot?  The main POV characters have all been outlined and finished for the last decade or so out to the end and a large portion of the remaining manuscript is finished, but I imagine he is tired of working on the same project for 30+ years... ..but then again: Wildcards. So  Scuttlebutt is it will all be destroyed if he dies before it is published.
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Wot? I’m sorry but is this a joke? Because it’s absolutely untrue.
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Sydney Bottocks posted:There was some thing a few years back where GRRM interviewed or had a discussion with King at some event, and one of the first questions he asked him was something like "how the gently caress are you able to write so much and so fast" Kings work ethic is intense. He sits down and does 1000 words each morning. No matter what, he'll churn those words out. There are some book where it really shows.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I’m sorry but is this a joke? Because it’s absolutely untrue. I mean, he said it in his blog not long after Dances came out so  Sydney Bottocks posted:There was some thing a few years back where GRRM interviewed or had a discussion with King at some event, and one of the first questions he asked him was something like "how the gently caress are you able to write so much and so fast" This interview is actually really interesting and worth a viewing if you haven’t seen it!
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