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AnEdgelord posted:Really hoping tomb kings make their triumphant return "Oh, drat - we forgot to add Tomb Kings again. Oops!" - GW Mr.Booger posted:you know, after rebasing 400+ skaven to play aos without feeling like I'm cheating having them on smaller bases...gently caress you GW. Just make it different scale so it can be a new (well warmaster was actually alot of fun) game.
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I don't know, old war is so far into the future that moving the circular bases absolutely made sense up until now. Even now, if I only had one AOS army that was on square bases I would absolutely convert. I had the benefit of multiple armies to let one slip by. I'd certainly not be looking at an army I made for AOS and eyeing it to use for a system that is far out and with unknown rules just yet.
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Mr.Booger posted:you know, after rebasing 400+ skaven to play aos without feeling like I'm cheating having them on smaller bases...gently caress you GW. Just make it different scale so it can be a new (well warmaster was actually alot of fun) game. I'm planning on just getting trays like this one. 
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Floppychop posted:I'm planning on just getting trays like this one. Oh I have them, but they make a 5 skaven wide unit about 135-140mm instead of 100mm if on 20mm square bases. In a game all about positioning and flanks, that's a huge difference (from years of playing fantasy, and Napoleonics/Historical ancients, bigger units are harder to maneuver by design, and are part of the points cost generally). To an army that was based on 25mm originally like Orcs or Chaos Warriors, probably no big deal, they have less units and were already that size, but I play Skaven, its more significant that you might think when you have 10+ blocks of troops. If am going to use 25mm ranked minis on round bases in unit sabol trays...I will just play Oathmark, which is designed for that exact setup.
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Jul 21, 2021 16:41
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 It'll work fine if everyone in your group does it.
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Deofuta posted:I don't know, old war is so far into the future that moving the circular bases absolutely made sense up until now. Even now, if I only had one AOS army that was on square bases I would absolutely convert. I had the benefit of multiple armies to let one slip by. I'd certainly not be looking at an army I made for AOS and eyeing it to use for a system that is far out and with unknown rules just yet.
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Mr.Booger posted:Oh I have them, but they make a 5 skaven wide unit about 135-140mm instead of 100mm if on 20mm square bases. In a game all about positioning and flanks, that's a huge difference (from years of playing fantasy, and Napoleonics/Historical ancients, bigger units are harder to maneuver by design, and are part of the points cost generally). To an army that was based on 25mm originally like Orcs or Chaos Warriors, probably no big deal, they have less units and were already that size, but I play Skaven, its more significant that you might think when you have 10+ blocks of troops. They might surprise us and allow 20 mm based models to go 4 wide and get a rank bonus if they are spread out more (functionally as being on the wider round bases), then bring out their own round base movement trays so they can make a bit of cash from it as well? Nah who am I kidding, if they've said square bases, that's all they'll allow.
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I play in multiple friend groups, some are much more "competitive" than others, while one group would not care, others would. Also do the models that originally came on 25mm squares need to move to 30mm frontages to match my size increase? How about the 50mm monsters that I could get 4 models into before, and now only 3..the game functions on base frontages and unit depths (as most rank and flank games do) so those things matter. Not trying to be all doom and gloom, I know a I am abit grognard-y, I mean I do play historical games sometimes. But some games base size is not a big deal, most skirmish games it doesn't matter at all, or at most some models aura gets 2mm bigger. But block troops games its a pseudo-hidden stat, like weapon reach in AOS, its a huge deal when it comes to actually playing the game, but looks less significant on paper. Edit: if they allowed 4 wide ranks for old 20mm based models that would be nice, but then you run into the issue of do I pay points for that 5th model that isnt there, if not my units got much cheaper as I only need to pay points for 16 models to get the footprint of 20. If they just say here is the footprint of the unit and here are the points...well you are playing kings of war now without the benefit of non-model removal that changes your unit size. I know I can make it work with one friend group, we hack everything we can, but it makes pickup games and any tournaments/narrative events at the local shop a pain. Mr.Booger fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Jul 21, 2021 |
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Jul 21, 2021 16:56
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I have accepted maybe I am just old and grumpy. The whole thing is so nebulous that it could not come out at all based on a company direction change or come out and be immediately unsupported. Not going to worry about it til 6 months after it comes out, we will see if it has legs.
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I started a Mawtribes army recently (decided to pick up war hams again after more than 10 years not playing) I was scrolling through reddit and saw this post which for other Ogor or potential Ogor players is worth taking note of "Hi folks, Just off the phone with my local store trying to order a start collecting box (beastclaw raiders) and he told me that his last delivery of the boxes was only a quarter of what he had ordered and he had been told that they were not restocking the box. Just a heads up, if anyone is looking to pick it up while it is still available! Edit: I should add I cant guarantee this, this is just what I was told." the implication being they are discontinuing that box. Super excited if we are getting a new kit. Now I just need to source a Mawpot and cross my fingers they make plastic Yeti's and slaughtermasters.
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Jul 22, 2021 06:05
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Probably just phasing out the start collecting boxes for something like the Combat Patrol boxes like 40k has.
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It's been a while now, how are people feeling about the Gravelords in terms of viability? I've been out of the loop for a while, but I'm thinking about picking up a version of them as a new army.
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Gravelords are generally considered a top-tier army at the moment, since the new GHB barely touched their points, pretty much all their units are solid and the 3.0 FAQ buffed their attrition game.
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Jul 24, 2021 14:20
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I wanted them to add a turbo winged helmets style dwarf faction to AOS but any excuse to paint an existing big wing helmet dwarf is fine.
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Jul 24, 2021 14:49
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Grungni’s return means there’s at least some hope for Khazalid expansion.
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Soulblights are super boring. That could be salt over losing my Legions army. I gave up on undead entirely to move to Orruks
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The new undead were what piqued my interest to get back into the fantasy hobby, if Cursed City hadn't been such a debacle I'd have probably got that and used the figs as the base of a new vamp army. But I'm also enjoying the Orruks, it's amazing putting together the Dominion set, the figures are so well designed and go together so easily. I did buy the Blood Bowl box and those figures were so much worse in comparison, I'm glad GW got it right this time. The Hobgrots are a bit weird though, I've put together the 20 models and there's till about 10 body halfs in the kit that there's nothing to do with. I'm sure that's on purpose but such a weird way of doing it!
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Jul 24, 2021 19:46
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Wheres the best place to talk about list building for AoS?
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Marmaduke! posted:The new undead were what piqued my interest to get back into the fantasy hobby, if Cursed City hadn't been such a debacle I'd have probably got that and used the figs as the base of a new vamp army. But I'm also enjoying the Orruks, it's amazing putting together the Dominion set, the figures are so well designed and go together so easily. I did buy the Blood Bowl box and those figures were so much worse in comparison, I'm glad GW got it right this time. The Hobgrots are a bit weird though, I've put together the 20 models and there's till about 10 body halfs in the kit that there's nothing to do with. I'm sure that's on purpose but such a weird way of doing it! You can get the undead part of Cursed City separately now, although they are pretty pricy: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-WW/Soulblight-Gravelords-Radukars-Court-2021 Two Headed Calf posted:Wheres the best place to talk about list building for AoS? Here seems like a pretty good place!
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/07/26/dragons-are-back-and-theyre-going-to-change-the-mortal-realms-forever/  Holy poo poo. Those look amazing. 
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Jul 26, 2021 16:03
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Lol yeah I just saw those big boy puppers. Looks like I chose to play sigmarines at the right time.
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Jul 26, 2021 16:05
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Great sculpts, but I really prefer the Skyrim/GoT style dragons
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Jul 26, 2021 16:11
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Dragons fighting for Sigmar is incredibly lame. They should be a wildcard or a new faction or something other than Stormcast lackeys
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Jul 26, 2021 16:13
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Counterpoint: lol get rekt dragonbroz for lyfe
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Dragons fighting for Sigmar is incredibly lame. They should be a wildcard or a new faction or something other than Stormcast lackeys GW has to push Stormcast somehow.
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I love how goofy they look!
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Jul 26, 2021 16:26
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I love my new smug dragons.
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Well I guess I should get the dominion box if dragons are in it... EDIT the army not the box
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Not my thing at all, but I think a lot of people will be happy with plain old dragons
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They aren't the weird hosed up dragonlings the regular Stormcast have, so yes they're 100% an improvement.
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Jul 26, 2021 16:41
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Stormcasts' weird menagerie is like the one thing I find mildly interesting about them
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Floppychop posted:GW has to push Stormcast somehow. Gotta have more things for Gotrek to ally with!
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Dragons fighting for Sigmar is incredibly lame. They should be a wildcard or a new faction or something other than Stormcast lackeys You say that because they havent released chaos fallen dragons yet. Or skeletal dragons
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The write-up for Karazai the scarred makes it sound like he isn’t actually part of the Stormcast and more of a wildcard loving things up in Ghur. It’s generally not a great idea to read too much into Warhammer Community preview posts but it sounds like he could be a Gotrek-style general Order ally, or perhaps even Chaos (Khorne?) aligned if he has gotten too into revenge and wrath.
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Jul 26, 2021 17:20
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New dragons own. I like that they're just sentient dudes and not mounts for other dudes
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We're gonna get more details in the coming daus, at least. And the sculpts are real good.
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I really don't like the faces, they look like goofy pixar characters rather than vicious creatures.
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These dragons don't look yell "Warhammer!" at me, but they're going to sell to people who just really like dragons. If there's a way to play them alone (like the giants,) I can definitely see them pulling in new players from the D&D crowd. Geisladisk posted:You can get the undead part of Cursed City separately now, although they are pretty pricy: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-WW/Soulblight-Gravelords-Radukars-Court-2021 place! This leaves out the cool City Guard and the divisive zombies and all the undead wildlife! And somehow still costs 60% of Cursed City without the game.
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Even if they’re officially SCE units, that still means 1 in 4 Cities of Sigmar coalition.
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Mors Rattus posted:Even if they’re officially SCE units, that still means 1 in 4 Cities of Sigmar coalition. A CoS army running dragons and phoenixes would be pretty cool Lucinice fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Jul 26, 2021 |
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