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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/onlineman420/status/1419662649760096261

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AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

People writing about red brown alliance poo poo in 2021. :pwn:

TheMightyBoops
Nov 1, 2016

I didn’t realize the left was due to eat itself, but now that I look I guess we must be overdue?

Time to punch left while slowly getting swallowed by sea water.

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
talking about the left eating itself is a mite funny after a few weeks spent watching a not-insignificant number among its cohort just sort of shrug its shoulders at the united states posturing to invade cuba

Hooplah
Jul 15, 2006


noted left magazine The New Yorker

BitcoinRockefeller
May 11, 2003

God gave me my money.

Hair Elf

mistermojo posted:

lol at coastal elites Liz and Brace not understanding why a bunch of dudes from Michigan called themselves Wolverine Watchmen

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
https://twitter.com/willmenaker/status/1419662590125428738?s=19

lol

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

hre are my thoughts on the new yorker article

it identifies cum town as a "flagship product" of the "dirtbag left" lmao

it slams chapo for showing "only belated and fitful interest in diversifying itself" while speaking in glowing terms of a different podcast hosted by two white guys?

mad that chapo is "discouraging people from voting" even though voting doesnt matter

mad at chapo for movie reviews while pleased with know your enemy reviewing an obscure christian movie

also the description of know your enemy, "Listening to “Know Your Enemy” can feel like visiting a semi-reclusive friend whose apartment is crammed with out-of-print books, but who always keeps a stash of good bourbon on hand" makes it sound absolutely unbearable lol, although im sure the podcast itself is probably fine

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


i guess the new yorker fact checkers found support for the claim that chapo cost bernie the primary —— it MUST be true!!

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

lobster shirt posted:

hre are my thoughts on the new yorker article

it identifies cum town as a "flagship product" of the "dirtbag left" lmao

it slams chapo for showing "only belated and fitful interest in diversifying itself" while speaking in glowing terms of a different podcast hosted by two white guys?

mad that chapo is "discouraging people from voting" even though voting doesnt matter

mad at chapo for movie reviews while pleased with know your enemy reviewing an obscure christian movie

also the description of know your enemy, "Listening to “Know Your Enemy” can feel like visiting a semi-reclusive friend whose apartment is crammed with out-of-print books, but who always keeps a stash of good bourbon on hand" makes it sound absolutely unbearable lol, although im sure the podcast itself is probably fine

I dunno, being boosted by the New Yorker makes it sound like a bourgeois cat's paw.

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


lobster shirt posted:

hre are my thoughts on the new yorker article

it identifies cum town as a "flagship product" of the "dirtbag left" lmao

it slams chapo for showing "only belated and fitful interest in diversifying itself" while speaking in glowing terms of a different podcast hosted by two white guys?

mad that chapo is "discouraging people from voting" even though voting doesnt matter

mad at chapo for movie reviews while pleased with know your enemy reviewing an obscure christian movie

also the description of know your enemy, "Listening to “Know Your Enemy” can feel like visiting a semi-reclusive friend whose apartment is crammed with out-of-print books, but who always keeps a stash of good bourbon on hand" makes it sound absolutely unbearable lol, although im sure the podcast itself is probably fine

also like there is a lot of overlap in the projects, hell chapo has probably spent orders of magnitude more time “analyzing”/talking about the right in its 500+ episodes than KYE’s back catalog combined


and chapo is not squeamish about acknowledging the center left as an enemy

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002


Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

You could not pay me to read that article

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

Pablo Nergigante posted:

You could not pay me to read that article

my eyes glazed over it for no other reason than having the text formatted to the left side of the page in an awkward and aesthetically unpleasant presentation

is this petty? yes.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Nathan Robinson's "nicebag left" movement once again overlooked by the mainstream media smh

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


Pablo Nergigante posted:

You could not pay me to read that article

everyone’s got a price!!

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


Office Pig posted:

my eyes glazed over it for no other reason than having the text formatted to the left side of the page in an awkward and aesthetically unpleasant presentation

is this petty? yes.

it’s such weird framing, like i guess the guy wanted to do a puff piece on KYE which is fine enough but he had to shoe horn in this chapo take? it’s strange, the guy must just have a grudge

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

know your enemy host matthew sitman was also a guest on chapo trap house, premium episode hillbilly smellegy

Hooplah
Jul 15, 2006


i wonder if the kye hosts knew their quotes were gonna be used in a hit piece

their podcast doesn't sound bad or anything, so it's kinda lovely if they get a bunch of negative exposure from chapo fans hate-sharing this article

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

If I was them I'd definitely resent the framing that they're a couple of Y'allstars.

MeatwadIsGod
Sep 30, 2004

Foretold by Gyromancy

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

the new yorker attempting to do a takedown/critique of chapo while boosting know your enemy

https://twitter.com/davidastinwalsh/status/1419625673119916033?s=21

If these people genuinely believe that Warren would have ever endorsed Sanders or that her endorsement would have mattered then they have even worse political instincts than Warren herself. Are they forgetting that she got an 11th hour cash injection from some multimillionaire after she tanked in earlier primaries? How do you read that as anything other than "we want you to stay in the race until Super Tuesday so you pull enough votes away from Sanders to ensure he doesn't win the lion's share of delegates." Like even discounting all the other ridiculous poo poo from earlier in the election cycle that alone tells the tale lol

MeatwadIsGod has issued a correction as of 16:19 on Jul 26, 2021

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

Joementum posted:

Nathan Robinson's "nicebag left" movement once again overlooked by the mainstream media smh

Dandybag Left

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


last thing for now.........











also, no mention of virgil in the article lol —— get ronan farrow on the case already!!

Breadallelogram
Oct 9, 2012


Hooplah posted:

i wonder if the kye hosts knew their quotes were gonna be used in a hit piece

their podcast doesn't sound bad or anything, so it's kinda lovely if they get a bunch of negative exposure from chapo fans hate-sharing this article

https://twitter.com/SamAdlerBell/status/1419651808528580612

and he's been retweeting a bunch of praise for the article (and himself) from blue checks

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Great. I was never gonna listen to it anyway.

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
the podcast he's pro sounds boring but fine, but mostly it seems like he's just real mad at chapo for being right, being angry about it, and carrying on making a show that he doesn't like?

like he complains that they haven't switched things up, while also writing about how they've been talking about "quirky animal facts" and films, and then completely ignoring their side projects

in the first part he talks about how "they fulfilled a real need by reflecting peoples anger back at them" or whatever but then complains that they're now being angry and nihilistic, but why was it good for something to be reflecting how people felt in 2016 and not good for it to be reflecting how people feel now?

i think he's trying to make a point about how it's not useful, but it's years until the next presidential election, they're right that electoralism is a dead end, and even if it wasn't I have a feeling that the other guys podcast is also not going to pave a path to socialism just because they do more in-depth research and don't swear much or whatever

e: also this new political compass sucks


quote:

This presupposed that American politics consists of a single spectrum, on which Nazi-punching is to the left of civil disobedience and insults are to the left of arguments. But there isn’t just one spectrum; at the very least, there’s a quadrant grid, with policy goals on one axis and temperament on the other. The x-axis ranges from a fully planned economy to anarcho-capitalism; the y-axis ranges from solicitous Socratic dialogue to misanthropic bullying. They vary independently.

XMNN has issued a correction as of 16:20 on Jul 26, 2021

a fatguy baldspot
Aug 29, 2018

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

it’s such weird framing, like i guess the guy wanted to do a puff piece on KYE which is fine enough but he had to shoe horn in this chapo take? it’s strange, the guy must just have a grudge

https://twitter.com/davidastinwalsh/status/1419658335092199424?s=21

he admit it!!

a fatguy baldspot
Aug 29, 2018

Whoops meant to link this one

https://twitter.com/davidastinwalsh/status/1419626285010149376?s=21

Often Abbreviated
Dec 19, 2017

1st Severia Tank Brigade
"Ghosts of Honcharivske"
the problem with paying attention to these bearded white guys is that they aren't me

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

as a 30ish bearded white guy, i would love for the new yorker to profile me.

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Often Abbreviated posted:

the problem with paying attention to these bearded white guys is that they aren't me

would it shock you to learn that the hosts of the other podcast are both bearded white guys

nikosoft
Dec 17, 2011

ghost in the shell, but somehow much worse
College Slice
I wish I could grow a beard, everyone seems fixated on them so they must be amazing

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

nikosoft posted:

I wish I could grow a beard, everyone seems fixated on them so they must be amazing

I have one. It's cool

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
as a young (ish) bearded white guy im feeling v attacked rn

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

XMNN posted:

as a young (ish) bearded white guy im feeling v attacked rn

Please start a podcast.

Reik
Mar 8, 2004
Probably just a coincidence

Often Abbreviated
Dec 19, 2017

1st Severia Tank Brigade
"Ghosts of Honcharivske"

XMNN posted:

would it shock you to learn that the hosts of the other podcast are both bearded white guys

I can only assume they are the right kind of bearded white guys. perhaps they have paid their dues to society. perhaps they are kind and tender lovers. perhaps one of their parents runs a hedge fund.

Reik
Mar 8, 2004
Andrew Marantz was the “If you want to kick off ironic Nazis, what do you do with the ironic Maoists and ironic Stalinists?” guy from the NYT article about chapo last year.

selec
Sep 6, 2003

nikosoft posted:

I wish I could grow a beard, everyone seems fixated on them so they must be amazing

mine was red (despite me being dishwater blonde) and is now going grey and when you get it oiled and it’s glistening like a prophet’s on date night, it’s magical

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Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

lobster shirt posted:

also the description of know your enemy, "Listening to “Know Your Enemy” can feel like visiting a semi-reclusive friend whose apartment is crammed with out-of-print books, but who always keeps a stash of good bourbon on hand" makes it sound absolutely unbearable lol, although im sure the podcast itself is probably fine

i feel like i've heard good things abut Know Your Enemy at some point but man that article made it sound unlistenable

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