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El Gallinero Gros posted:The JBL border stuff had me want to stop watching. I've said it here many times before, but it actually DID make me stop watching. JBL was a horrible gimmick and a bad performer, and I could see that even as a 14 year-old. I've since seen people try to reclaim it by insisting that "it wasn't actually that bad in the end". I watched it back, it was.
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Hedgehog Pie posted:I've said it here many times before, but it actually DID make me stop watching. JBL was a horrible gimmick and a bad performer, and I could see that even as a 14 year-old. I've since seen people try to reclaim it by insisting that "it wasn't actually that bad in the end". I watched it back, it was. They could have claimed that if JBL lost the feud, but he won it pretty decisively. Actually even then it still isn't okay. Note to wrestling companies: If your big idea to make a guy a top heel is to just have him be an unrepentant racist, STOP. El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Jul 19, 2021 |
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JBL won the Eddie feud, held the belt for 9 more months, and finally dropped it to Cena in the Mania pre-main in a boring 10-minute match. It sucked, all of it.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:They could have claimed that if JBL lost the feud, but he won it pretty decisively. Actually even then it still isn't okay. Well it worked so well for them at WM XIX . At least they kinda learned their lesson with Kofi vs. Bryan and didn't make the racism obvious (but anybody who could read between the lines knew what was going on). And of course then they just didn't really put any faith in Kofi as champion so that didn't go so well either despite him having a 6-month run which is 6 months more than I thought they'd give him. D.N. Nation posted:JBL won the Eddie feud, held the belt for 9 more months, and finally dropped it to Cena in the Mania pre-main in a boring 10-minute match. It sucked, all of it. He also was straight up the worst champ from a business standpoint since Diesel. There's a bit of irony that a self-professed financial genius was such a financial disaster. Angry_Ed fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Jul 19, 2021 |
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El Gallinero Gros posted:They could have claimed that if JBL lost the feud, but he won it pretty decisively. Actually even then it still isn't okay. Vince unable to imagine a racist losing.
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CHIVERS posted:the rare Bald Alex Wright AKA "uh oh, nobody cared about Berlyn, now what do we do with him?" Also boy Air Paris sure managed to be the other guy in that tag team
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rujasu posted:Also boy Air Paris sure managed to be the other guy in that tag team Didn’t even get a Jannetty run. Which considering Marty might be a silver lining.
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ZixTheYeti posted:Didn’t even get a Jannetty run. Which considering Marty might be a silver lining. They only teamed together 4 times.
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DJExile posted:https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1419642112526721029 people forget about this gimmick but he was cutting promos like this on Nitro for like 4 months and it sucked rear end
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Alaois posted:people forget about this gimmick but he was cutting promos like this on Nitro for like 4 months and it sucked rear end And then a year and change later Russo and Bischoff thought "What if that, but the whole promotion"
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Angry_Ed posted:And then a year and change later Russo and Bischoff thought "What if that, but the whole promotion" "Bro we'll pop the smarks bro." "But isn't it the casual market we should aim for?" "Bro."
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I suppose they were ahead of the curve in predicting the IWC, but...well, the results speak for themselves. How often have worked shoots been well received?
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Halloween Jack posted:I suppose they were ahead of the curve in predicting the IWC, but...well, the results speak for themselves. How often have worked shoots been well received? they weren't predicting it they were responding to it, the IWC fully existed by 1998
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Halloween Jack posted:I suppose they were ahead of the curve in predicting the IWC, but...well, the results speak for themselves. How often have worked shoots been well received? It wasn't a prediction, it was a response to the dirt sheets and message boards that existed at the time. it didn't work because the the only fans that caught the references would also read those places to find out it was being worked.
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Alaois posted:people forget about this gimmick but he was cutting promos like this on Nitro for like 4 months and it sucked rear end Wrestlers pouring coffee on themselves is how you get them over!
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What exactly was the beef between Bischoff and Guerrero? Was it before or after Eddie's drunk driving incident? Because I remember reading something along the lines of Eddie had been promised a new generous contract by Bischoff, got into his accident a day before he was due to sign, then Bischoff did him a solid and honoured the contract anyway when he could have pulled the offer. Eddie expressed how thankful he was. E: Fin Martin of Powerslam magazine posted:Eddie Guerrero almost killed himself when he ran his car off the road on the early morning of January 1. High on GHB, Guerrero passed out at the wheel of his TransAm and drove off an embankment and into a ditch at high speed. Like Brian Pillman in 1996, Guerrero was thrown from the vehicle before it rolled. Had he been strapped into the vehicle, he would have been crushed. Guerrero revealed in his autobiography, Cheating Death, Stealing Life, that it was a suicide attempt, provoked by an argument with his wife Vickie. Eddie and Vickie had frequently quarrelled over Eddie’s drinking and drug-taking, mostly. Prior to the accident, the extent of Guerrero’s alcohol and drug consumption was known only to his family and close friends. Guerrero was remarkably candid about his excesses in his memoirs, and the misery and embarrassment it caused to those around him. He even admitted that he drank so much at his nephew Chavo’s wedding, at which he served as best man, that he passed out and had to be carried from the room. This had followed another bust-up with Vickie in front of the entire wedding party. Guerrero suffered massive injuries in the car crash: a lacerated liver, a broken collarbone and hip socket, and serious damage to vertebrae and his calf and thigh. The initial prognosis was that he would not wrestle again. He returned to action in a match with Juventud Guerrera on the June 21, 1999 Monday Nitro. Guerrero admitted in an interview with PS on December 27, 2001 that he had returned to WCW prematurely: “I made the mistake that everybody told me not to: I came back too soon,” he said. “I was told to take between eight months and a year off, and I was back on TV after five-and-a-half months. On the outside, I was pretty much healed up, but inside, I still hadn’t healed completely.” The pain from the accident led Guerrero to increase his pain medication and alcohol consumption. The bumps in the ring only upped his intake. A final point about Guerrero regarding this period of his career: he was forever grateful to Eric Bischoff for standing by him following the car accident. Guerrero told me in the aforementioned interview, published in Issue 91 of PS: “A lot of people don’t know this, but my [WCW] contract was up [on December 31, 1998]. When I crashed, I had not signed a new contract. Eric Bischoff then sent me a new contract — with a substantial raise. We had talked about the deal and agreed on it before the accident, but I had never signed it. And he sent the contract to me, not knowing if I was ever going to be able to wrestle again. The contract was for three years — complete deal. That’s how much he cared. A lot of people say bad things about Eric Bischoff, but, when I was in trouble, he came through for me. He did that. I still remember signing the contract in hospital.” Kosmo Gallion fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Jul 26, 2021 |
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Tato posted:Wrestlers pouring coffee on themselves is how you get them over! https://youtu.be/8LDPp6kk8Bs
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Alaois posted:they weren't predicting it they were responding to it, the IWC fully existed by 1998 OBSERVE THIS BROTHER THIS IS WHAT WE CALL A RAG SHEET BROTHER but it's like a dinosaur compared to the internet the internet has the scoops
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Dawgstar posted:OBSERVE THIS BROTHER THIS IS WHAT WE CALL A RAG SHEET BROTHER "The internet has the real scoops, brother" is up there with "eating fruit and being cool" and calling himself Big Wood in terms of Good Hogan poo poo
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MassRafTer posted:They only teamed together 4 times. I knew they were short lived since they were only there at the end of WCW but Paris didn’t even try to capitalize on being “the other guy” at any point. I guess the reason is because AJ didn’t start skyrocketing until TNA a couple years later or Paris just wasn’t interested, but it still seems like something someone somewhere would’ve at least tried to use to generate some business.
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ZixTheYeti posted:I knew they were short lived since they were only there at the end of WCW but Paris didn’t even try to capitalize on being “the other guy” at any point. I guess the reason is because AJ didn’t start skyrocketing until TNA a couple years later or Paris just wasn’t interested, but it still seems like something someone somewhere would’ve at least tried to use to generate some business. He was the more established guy in 2001 so he wasn't going to capitalize on it then, he had his own thing going in Wildside. Then he kind of fell off and by the time he was back on the scene it was kind of a new indie generation. MassRafTer fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Jul 27, 2021 |
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MassRafTer posted:Lariats and clotheslines are the same thing. Same as an axe bomber. All the same move. I thought it was a Lariat when a Cowboy did it.
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https://twitter.com/deepcutswcw/status/1420073949635940353?s=21 Cannot believe how well Curt handled this, Christ. He looks like he wants to beat the dogshit out of Jimmy for asking about it
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MassRafTer posted:He was the more established guy in 2001 so he wasn't going to capitalize on it then, he had his own thing going in Wildside. Then he kind of fell off and by the time he was back on the scene it was kind of a new indie generation.
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DJExile posted:https://twitter.com/deepcutswcw/status/1420073949635940353?s=21 I’d say Curt handled it perfectly
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my favorite Air Paris story was that he showed up to a WCW show with a plane costume complete with wings for his entrance gear, got supported by the Steiners or some veterans who thought it would be a great rib, and then eventually talked out of it again before committing career suicide
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OJ MIST 2 THE DICK posted:my favorite Air Paris story was that he showed up to a WCW show with a plane costume complete with wings for his entrance gear, got supported by the Steiners or some veterans who thought it would be a great rib, and then eventually talked out of it again before committing career suicide I think you are remembering Jason Jett's infamous gear.
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MassRafTer posted:I think you are remembering Jason Jett's infamous gear. Yeah that's right, d'oh
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Mancow is one of the most full of poo poo people on the Earth and he just posted a peak Mancow video with old footage with Hogan and then some video of Mancow claiming he was there when Elizabeth left Macho Man. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5_heVXCZ5A Also includes some video of his stuff with WCW.
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FREE SPEECH!
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https://twitter.com/WrestlingArcade/status/1422249110996979716 please enjoy Jericho coming closer than anyone else did to making Dean laugh.
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Guess who
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Nick Jr. Face posted:Guess who charlotte??
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Nick Jr. Face posted:Guess who Barry Horowitz and Seth Rollins hosed and their kid went back in time like in that one Fire Emblem game.
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Nick Jr. Face posted:Guess who Mark Mero Mk 1
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overmind2000 posted:Mark Mero Mk 1 Mark ZERO-1
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