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Man, the OP-33 K.O. is so stinking cool. I wish I bought one of these a year ago. I’m walking around my place hitting things against other things to see what it sounds like. I still have my piano, guitar, banjo, turntable, vinyl. So many sounds to pull.
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Jul 27, 2021 21:35
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I've made more money trading synths than I ever have trying my luck on the stock market lmao
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Rolo posted:Man, the OP-33 K.O. is so stinking cool. I wish I bought one of these a year ago. I’m walking around my place hitting things against other things to see what it sounds like. Fucken A you rock
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PO-33 rules, I sampled myself popping a bunch of bubble wrap into it and it makes the best snare sound
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I think it’s exactly what I needed. I felt overwhelmed trying to shop for synths but now I’m just sitting here making beats. I think this thing will end up helping me narrow down what I want next. I sampled a C key on my piano into the melodic section and boom, 16 piano sounds. Yell “AYYYOOO” into it, mess with the pitch, throw it in. Took a recording from Robocop into the drum section and now I have a ton of his walking/servo sounds. I’m having just too much fun.
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circuit rhythm should have a little mic on it imo. I still want one but its funny how close you can come to replicating the SP404 without actually going all the way. It does seem to handle the slice + sequence flavor of oktatrack pretty well which is mostly what I used that for
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kurzweil k2000s are still relatively cheap. like, if someone wanted a good synth with a good keyboard and a sequencer
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Jul 28, 2021 01:41
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Man the K2000 was like the biggest dick item back in the day too. The like supreme holy poo poo I can do everything from here but it costs more than my car synth. At least 17 year old me felt that way I dunno
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Jul 28, 2021 02:25
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JamesKPolk posted:This is part of my problem is I think the OP-1 rules and used to spend every lunch break I could demoing it at AC Gears in Manhattan but I would love nothing more than to see Teenage Engineering fail. Cutesy rear end toy for grownup company burying all that power under friggin' coloring books-for-adults-rear end-aesthetics! At least its not Behringer I guess Every instrument, from a Stradivarius to a Stratocaster, is a toy. There are no business trombones.
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chaosbreather posted:Every instrument, from a Stradivarius to a Stratocaster, is a toy. There are no business trombones. Yeah this is an attitude that I really don’t get. It’s supposed to be fun and creative.
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TE design and aesthetics are really really good.
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chaosbreather posted:Every instrument, from a Stradivarius to a Stratocaster, is a toy. There are no business trombones. Yeah I guess I'm just at an age where I think wooden blocks are cooler than fisher price pianos
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Jul 28, 2021 06:31
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fisher price pianos unironically own
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So I think I'm going to be returning Pigments. Despite their best efforts to make the UI transparent, the whole thing is just a bit too divey and deep to get around, the tone is a bit uncharismatic to my ears, and the final straw is the lack of mouse wheel support for the knobs. gently caress it, I'm just getting Serum instead. I compared the demo side-by-side with pigments, its UI is much more cohesive and it's got way cooler filters.
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chaosbreather posted:There are no business trombones. I like this sentence and will be using it before I die.
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toadee posted:Man the K2000 was like the biggest dick item back in the day too. The like supreme holy poo poo I can do everything from here but it costs more than my car synth. At least 17 year old me felt that way I dunno Can confirm, had to get a license 
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snorch posted:So I think I'm going to be returning Pigments. Despite their best efforts to make the UI transparent, the whole thing is just a bit too divey and deep to get around, the tone is a bit uncharismatic to my ears, and the final straw is the lack of mouse wheel support for the knobs. Earlier in the thread someone suggested I try PhasePlant and Vital instead of Serum and that was, I feel, good advice, said as someone who did nevertheless do a month with Serum for the sake of comparison. Serum is great and capable, it just turns out that there are places to go from there that do more, as it's been out for a while now. But being such a standard it does have an incredible amount of presets available for it out there, and it was fun to learn with for that month, I have nothing bad to say about it as such I just found the alternatives suggested to me to be more compelling personally.
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As someone who uses Reaper on both Linux and Windows (for reasons of space it makes sense to record guitars/vox in one area and machines another), there's definitely an argument for Just Works on the Linux side that I never expected to be seeing these days except for VST dlls of course. I've not tried to shim those, the latency's not worth it, but if there's a native port, I'll use that. The biggest problem I have on the Windows side is the fight between USB audio devices. I'm resigned to getting a second audio interface for the Windows box to resolve this eventually because otherwise I'm stuck with swapping them out and resetting Reaper every time (that's something I dearly wish Reaper would address, custom device profiles that I could save).
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Giving the CA-X Pocket Operator case a C-. The cutout isn’t flush with the screen edges, battery covers don’t hold well and it just doesn’t feel like something that cost 30-40 bucks. I’m gonna keep it on cause this thing is gonna be going in my travel bag but I wish there were nicer options.
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Rolo posted:Giving the CA-X Pocket Operator case a C-. The cutout isn’t flush with the screen edges, battery covers don’t hold well and it just doesn’t feel like something that cost 30-40 bucks. That’s surprising, I have two and they fit perfect and feel real nice. I consider those essential for the POs now. On that note I need more POs!!!
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I like the newer generic cases better than the first couple runs which were device specific. They changed the mold to snap to the battery area better, and the button action is less dampened. There are also people on etsy who 3D print cases for pocket operators. I don't know anyone's specific reputation, but some of them are supposed to be good.
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I've been liking these a lot: https://i.imgur.com/cIBg7T5.mp4 https://www.ebay.com/itm/324721414101?ViewItem=&item=324721414101
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Agreed posted:Earlier in the thread someone suggested I try PhasePlant and Vital instead of Serum and that was, I feel, good advice, said as someone who did nevertheless do a month with Serum for the sake of comparison. I wasn't too in love with vital (but free!), phase plant looks a lot like what I'm looking for, I'll check it out thanks. snorch fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Jul 28, 2021 |
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Kilometers Davis posted:TE design and aesthetics are really really good. Yup. The OP-1 is just fun to use. I struggled with the cost even back when it was cheaper, but I don't regret it. It doesn't get a ton of use lately, but every time I go back to it it makes me smile.
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PhasePlant is outrageous, and the SnapHeap plugins are quite good as well. Hope you like it as you get to know it more Snorch!
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So after trying Phase Plant my verdict is: despite its glaring lack of mouse wheel support, it's pretty neat, definitely a step up from pigments. If they weren't charging an extra $100 for snapin effects I consider absolutely essential (and their "just the tip" model of allowing existing presets to use them anyways), I'd probably go for it. But between its incredible dedication to workflow, and the abundance of amazing preset packs, Serum is still coming out on top for me. My only wish for it would be better sample support.
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petit choux posted:I've been liking these a lot: Does not ship to Canada. chaosbreather posted:Every instrument, from a Stradivarius to a Stratocaster, is a toy. There are no business trombones. So like, I agree with the sentiment of this post, in terms of "whatever, an OP-1 is a toy, it's OK for it to look like a toy". But there kinda are people for whom their primary source of income is playing a trombone, and for whom their trombone is ~serious business~. To bring this back to the thread topic, various high-end synth "workstations" are probably good examples of a "business synth".
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Lead out in cuffs posted:So like, I agree with the sentiment of this post, in terms of "whatever, an OP-1 is a toy, it's OK for it to look like a toy". But there kinda are people for whom their primary source of income is playing a trombone, and for whom their trombone is ~serious business~. To me, a really great example of this is the Prophet 08 Rev 2 - a re-release of a pretty boring Curtis filter/vca voice polysynth that a lot of the GS/MW set nerds were mad about specifically to make it (and they talked about this in press releases) backwards compatible for all the national touring acts that used it as part of their backline and needed to replace units they fried
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Lead out in cuffs posted:To bring this back to the thread topic, various high-end synth "workstations" are probably good examples of a "business synth". K2700 lol   I'm glad it's happening, I want Kurzweil to be around and making boards, but this is not exactly the triumphant return to the halcyon days I would've liked from a new K. E: not even an update to the clonewheel!!! I blame Andrew Lloyd
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Kurzweil doesn't need to design new synths any more. When he ascends to digital godhood his body will become a synth
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Lead out in cuffs posted:Does not ship to Canada. Mods, please change my user name to "business trombones"
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And let me have a trombone solo in Donna Summer's "She worked hard for the money." Business style, IYKWIM.
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Lead out in cuffs posted:Does not ship to Canada. In other news, I picked up a midi controller with16 knobs from tindie. I wanted to be able to have abunch of twisty controls for vcv rack, but when I go to map them, all the knobs end up mapping to the same control. They all apparently output the same cc. Are there any simple utilities I can use to get this sorted? I tried to contact the maker, but the internet in Belarus seems to have gone down. B33rChiller fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Jul 29, 2021 |
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you would need the software that goes with it, and I doubt some homemade mystery controller has some
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I figured as much. Glad it wasn't pricey, and it has a stellar wood box. I figure a korg nanokontrol2 should do what I need right?
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