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Tankakern posted:would be weird if ms didnt choose rpm for a cloud os Because Ubuntu owns that space, utterly?
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no they don’t what the hell
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Jul 23, 2021 20:26
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seriously rpm is the standard and while maybe not technically the best things are still led in the ~enterprise~ space by rhel and, like, amazon linux
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i put a barebones netplan config in an upgraded ubuntu server today and did a 'try' and it didnt work but also didnt revert and blew it off the network, now someone has to go touch it irl gently caress linux, loving waste of time
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Jul 24, 2021 03:23
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this is the windows thread
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Jul 24, 2021 04:57
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its the linux thread
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Jul 24, 2021 05:02
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it's simple: one of them has regulars that seem to be posting from an alternate universe because that's the only way to square their takes with reality, and the other has shaggar
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Jul 24, 2021 05:03
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graph posted:its the linux thread windows has a linux now
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Jul 24, 2021 05:27
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its complicated
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Jul 24, 2021 05:59
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infernal machines posted:windows has a linux now gross
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Jul 24, 2021 06:23
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https://twitter.com/hexacorn/status/1418634009060458500
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Jul 24, 2021 13:02
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Or just disable macros completely in Office. Or only allow signed macros.
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Jul 25, 2021 12:27
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lmao they are gonna make a surface duo 2: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/07/heres-the-first-credible-microsoft-surface-duo-2-leak/
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Jul 26, 2021 17:49
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Clark Nova posted:lmao they are gonna make a surface duo 2: still gonna be a million bucks probably. honestly i like the form factor. i don't need a ton of apps, if the base software wasn't buggy (but lol)
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Jul 26, 2021 19:10
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seems so incredibly stupid to try exactly the same thing again that i am going to predict that this isn't true. or is ballmer back running things and i didn't hear?
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Jul 26, 2021 19:56
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if the surface duo had been winphone i would have probably bought one
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Jul 26, 2021 19:58
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Shaggar posted:if the surface duo had been winphone i would have probably bought one same. also i figured that windows 11 android app support was a sign of possible thing to come (shrink tablets into the phone role over time or so), but this is way too short a turnaround to be a windows thing, and if they are planning to keep thrashing about randomly in the android space i guess they have no intention of doing anything serious long-term in the phone(ish) space.
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Jul 26, 2021 20:03
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mediaphage posted:still gonna be a million bucks probably. honestly i like the form factor. i don't need a ton of apps, if the base software wasn't buggy (but lol) yeah exactly one million bucks and no more, lol
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Jul 27, 2021 03:04
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Shaggar posted:if the surface duo had been winphone i would have probably bought one 100% would have as well.
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Jul 27, 2021 03:16
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i'm not convinced windows phone would have really been any better aside from the intrinsic value of not being android. having a hard time picturing their ui paradigm pushed across two displays
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UWP has pretty good responsive controls that make it easy to make apps that scale different devices. android (and the duo sdks) problem here are that it’s a pain in the rear end to make a tablet app, or for the duo, make an app that can scale to two screens without tons of custom poo poo. if the duo team made controls that could work on dual screens, but also scale onto an Android tablet too (I know Android tablets are not popular, work with me here) they might have gotten dev buy in just on that. but nope, just custom poo poo for a crap phone. also uwp is dead and winui sucks poo poo.
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Jul 27, 2021 04:51
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the tiles owned so much and it would have been easy to just expand it across both displays or when folded have the tiles only on the front display. the individual apps would be interesting because most of them probably arent really built to span 2 displays so you either put it across both which would be odd or just put one app on one display which would have been fine and then let apps opt in to using both displays at once. obviously thats not gonna work great when nobody is writing apps for it tho.
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Jul 27, 2021 15:42
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i wonder how many people that said live tiles were trash have their phone home screens filled with widgets
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Jul 28, 2021 07:04
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are widgets the swipe right thing on the iphone? i never use it
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Jul 28, 2021 10:59
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i wasn’t wowed by live tiles but widgets are sti mostly satan imo
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Jul 28, 2021 11:06
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so far it appears they've abandoned live tiles in win 11
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Jul 28, 2021 14:19
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Carthag Tuek posted:are widgets the swipe right thing on the iphone? i never use it
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Jul 28, 2021 14:22
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Chris Knight posted:no, it's the bigger sized icons that do stuff it's both, those are widgets
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Jul 28, 2021 14:24
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the windows 11 start menu was presumably designed by someone at microsoft who loved live tiles and designed the new one to punish a world that shunned them. you still get a mess of default-pinned apps, but they are now just static undifferentiated icons, and you now *don't* get the full list of applications without a second click. (don't panic, the only workflow anyone uses, hitting win and typing a search, does still work).
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Jul 28, 2021 16:11
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:the windows 11 start menu was presumably designed by someone at microsoft who loved live tiles and designed the new one to punish a world that shunned them. you still get a mess of default-pinned apps, but they are now just static undifferentiated icons, and you now *don't* get the full list of applications without a second click. (don't panic, the only workflow anyone uses, hitting win and typing a search, does still work).
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Jul 28, 2021 16:40
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jesus WEP posted:hopefully they still have the super cool feature where win + “exce” + enter = open excel, whereas win + “excel” + enter = open edge and show bing results for excel i bet and also the other super cool feature where when you type exc it goes to “uninstall excel.exe”
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Jul 28, 2021 16:47
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jesus WEP posted:hopefully they still have the super cool feature where win + “exce” + enter = open excel, whereas win + “excel” + enter = open edge and show bing results for excel
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Jul 28, 2021 17:01
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jesus WEP posted:hopefully they still have the super cool feature where win + “exce” + enter = open excel, whereas win + “excel” + enter = open edge and show bing results for excel Fortunately win+r+excel and win+r+winword still work
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Jul 28, 2021 17:12
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ios widgets are dogshit and not at all the same as live tiles. ios icons/widgets have too much wasted space to get the equivalent effect
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Jul 28, 2021 17:13
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it is not like i mind live tiles, but i would take windows phone even if it was running an android launcher any day. ran better than android on equivalent hardware, less buggy than android, a better security story than android, and finally google being way less trustworthy on privacy. no arguments for windows phone *over* ios, but it was worlds better than android even leaving every bit of design and ux aside.
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Jul 28, 2021 17:41
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Shaggar posted:ios widgets are dogshit and not at all the same as live tiles. ios icons/widgets have too much wasted space to get the equivalent effect both suck
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Jul 28, 2021 17:51
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:it is not like i mind live tiles, but i would take windows phone even if it was running an android launcher any day. ran better than android on equivalent hardware, less buggy than android, a better security story than android, and finally google being way less trustworthy on privacy. largely agree
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windows phone was just better than ios in a bunch of minor ways that added up to something better. about the only thing ios does better is the password management for apps instead of just web browsers.mediaphage posted:both suck nope. the tiles were so much better live or not
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Jul 28, 2021 18:01
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Shaggar posted:windows phone was just better than ios in a bunch of minor ways that added up to something better. about the only thing ios does better is the password management for apps instead of just web browsers. hard disagree, there's essentially nothing that a live tile or widget can tell me that i need to know that will save me from opening an app to actually check it out. the only thing i can possibly think of is if you have a day of random meetings but even then you should be getting reminders beforehand that obviate the need for a widget or tile showing whatever your next meeting is like i don't care if you like them, it's whatever. i just find them both completely useless also i think it's weird that a non-live tile is considered "better" than just an app icon, they're the same?
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Shaggar posted:windows phone was just better than ios in a bunch of minor ways that added up to something better. about the only thing ios does better is the password management for apps instead of just web browsers. Amen. It's a shame they handled WP7 -> 8 -> 10 so poorly. I understand the technical hurdles and achievements but drat, it alienated so many people. 
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