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vandalism posted:I am not anti vaccine. I am vaccinated from birth. If I had kids, they would have been as well. I am not even anti covid vaccine, assuming a person falls under the correct parameters to receive an emergency vaccine with no long-term testing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9O94UTDAJQ
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Oops, turns out that nature hikes might not be such a great way to get away from covid carriers. The woods are full of infected deer. https://twitter.com/sarperotto/status/1420428787372552197 https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/newsroom/stakeholder-info/stakeholder-messages/wildlife-damage-news/deer-sars
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Once all the wild animals learn about our vaccine they will come after us... Unlucky hikers and joggers brought down by the swarms of squirrels and rabbits and deer all eager to drink deep in the vaxx blood
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Jul 28, 2021 22:43
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Vaccines are not an individual benefit, it takes a group effort to combat highly transmittable diseases. If everyone doesn't do it, the disease will continue to spread and mutate. Come on people, we've had over a year to get on board with the concept
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Jul 28, 2021 22:49
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Oops, turns out that nature hikes might not be such a great way to get away from covid carriers. The woods are full of infected deer. deer, famously an animal that comes close to human beings at every opportunity
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Jul 28, 2021 22:53
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https://twitter.com/YourAlberta/status/1420440416512471042?s=19 Basically Alberta is abandoning any type of measure to curb Covid 19 Sorry Alberta goons you're hosed.
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the point is more, if deer get it too what else does, and it provides a place for the virus to continue to exist and evolve (nobodys gonna vaccinate all the deer) in perpetuity which increases the chances of spillover back to humans
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Jul 28, 2021 22:55
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Riptor posted:deer, famously an animal that comes close to human beings at every opportunity Snowglobe is Australian and may expect deer to hop up and throw punches like kangaroos. 
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Reported in the FL local thread:Bottom Liner posted:https://twitter.com/orlandosentinel/status/1420466311117910020 Just need Broward to jump on this when the officials have a 5 minute break from agreeing to let Elon build a tunnel system in an area that is at sea level.
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Schmeichy posted:Vaccines are not an individual benefit, it takes a group effort to combat highly transmittable diseases. If everyone doesn't do it, the disease will continue to spread and mutate. Come on people, we've had over a year to get on board with the concept It's complicated. Polls repeatedly show that 20% - 30% of unvaccinated adults want to get the jab but still haven't managed it https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-unvaccinated-refuse-shot-axios-ipsos-poll-8f581639-f1c8-4197-bb6f-0bd9d54edb14.html Making the vaccination free and legislating that employees get 4 hrs sick leave especially to get vaccinated just isn't a good enough level of access in many cases, there's a whole bunch of people out there working 2 or 3 jobs who just can't get to a vaxx clinic or just can't afford to take several days off if they get bad side effects. It's going to be real difficult to get those last few unvaccinated adults who want the juice across the line. ....... and of course there's still the 50% - 60+% percent of unvaccinated adults who don't want the vaccine who are just going to gently caress it up for everyone else anyway Mozi posted:nobodys gonna vaccinate all the deer) I will vaccinate the deer Platystemon posted:Snowglobe is Australian and may expect deer to hop up and throw punches like kangaroos.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3-jxH1Dm9A
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we need to build arks and get all the animals onboard and vaccinate them all 2 by 2
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:The dosing is very different for 5-11s and 6 months to 5 years compared to adults so yeah this is a terrible idea. We'll see what they settle on in a couple months but in the mean time we're in for a world of hurt. Scarodactyl fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Jul 28, 2021 |
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Jul 28, 2021 23:08
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vandalism posted:"Vaccine development is a long, complex process, often lasting 10-15 years and involving a combination of public and private involvement." This is basically the same thing as saying a basketball team in the finals up by 20 in the fourth quarter has the same odds of winning the championship as the preseason estimates. No reasonable person would think that made sense. All the vaccines under EUA have had massive phase III trials completed at time of EUA, and had passed phase I and II (which are not regulatory decisions, but rather the decision of the company to advance the drug to the next phase). Even a 15% chance that the vaccines wouldn't get approved is too high, since the phase III data was very efficacious.
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Scarodactyl posted:A wide range of doses (10, 30 and 100 mg) was tested in adults in phase 1 without any serious issues--side effects were worse at 100 and there wasn't a big benefit to antibody levels, hence sticking to 30. While targeting it exactly is best I am not sure that the risks will outweigh the benefits in this case. For many vaccines the dose for babies is the same as the dose for adults (and in some cases the dosage is actually lower in adults because of side effects), so it wouldn't be unprecedented. Maybe it's a bridge too far but waiting is going to be expensive as well. And they also did phase 1 trials for under 12s where they tested 10mg, 20mg, and the adult 30mg dosage, resulting in the absolute lowest for 5-11s and an even smaller dose than 10mg for the under 5s. They haven't released the full results as far as I can tell but to me that says they probably found some indication that 30mg may not be a good idea for a 2 year old. Once again, children are not tiny adults. especially when it comes to medicine. Institute NPIs in schools, do virtual for the fall if needed, yell and scream at the government until that happens but yeah just shoving an adult dose untested into a child is not a good alternative especially when prior trials settled on that not being a good idea. Mr Luxury Yacht fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Jul 28, 2021 |
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Mozi posted:the point is more, if deer get it too what else does, and it provides a place for the virus to continue to exist and evolve (nobodys gonna vaccinate all the deer) in perpetuity which increases the chances of spillover back to humans enfield was right all along
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The core study supporting ivermectin was retracted because the data was totally fraudulent. Not just bad, but outright fabricated. I think another of the less-bad (not better, but less bad) studies touted for it was retracted recently too. The ivermectin concentration required to kill SARS-CoV-2 in vitro doesn't appear achievable in the body. Like, taking 8.5x the FDA-approved dose results in blood concentrations of something like 1/200 what was used to kill it in petri dishes. In short, Bret Weinstein sucks rear end and should go die in a freak grease fire.
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https://twitter.com/LaurenPelley/status/1420505702175551490?s=19 Lol everybody in Alberta is going to die
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stab posted:https://twitter.com/LaurenPelley/status/1420505702175551490?s=19 What the gently caress. Also, Australia has a feral deer population. I wonder how long it's going to take for us to have our very own natural reservoir. Lolie fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Jul 29, 2021 |
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Jul 29, 2021 00:01
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I’m circulating a petition to sanction Alberta as a state sponsor of bioterrorism.
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stab posted:Alberta  Well that takes the cake
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Oops, turns out that nature hikes might not be such a great way to get away from covid carriers. The woods are full of infected deer. I mean, I wasn't planning on open-mouthed kissing any deer anymore
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Riptor posted:deer, famously an animal that comes close to human beings at every opportunity look at how fast it goes through humans, all it takes is one dumb rear end with covid to offer food to one curious and hungry animal to expose it and poof! cervid-19 the concern as mozi says is, if it jumps the species barrier then that's more reservoirs to breed more variants that could be passed back to humans Fur20 fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Jul 29, 2021 |
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Jul 29, 2021 00:43
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friday it will be two weeks since my 2nd shot IM GOING TO CHUCK E CHEESE'S!!!
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Riptor posted:deer, famously an animal that comes close to human beings at every opportunity People hunt and eat deer. Remember that our current best guess on how transmission in humans started is that it jumped from bats to humans through an intermediate species used for food.
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vandalism posted:I am not anti vaccine. I am vaccinated from birth. If I had kids, they would have been as well. I am not even anti covid vaccine, assuming a person falls under the correct parameters to receive an emergency vaccine with no long-term testing. I read this earlier and just want to say this post is very stupid. It's basically twisted concern trolling and your throwaway opener doesn't help. Other possibly helpful solutions such as ivermectin are being buried because it is cheap, generic, and can't make the big pharma companies a shitload of money. I can't even agree about big phrama being greedy because this is so stupid and aligning with just a part of it, a kernel of truth, is how stupid rear end misinformation spreads online. Any other maga drugs you wanna recommend to folks?
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Looks like its just me going to work and sitting inside of my room for the rest of my life. Gonna invest in VR. gently caress these stupid rear end people.
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:Once again, children are not tiny adults. especially when it comes to medicine. Will that be very different for mrna vaccines? Maybe, it's a real risk. Easy for me to dismiss since I don't have kids or make policy. The current plan to just pizza blast unprotected schoolkids with adult-sized doses of delta particles is awfully frustrating.
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Katamari Democracy posted:Looks like its just me going to work and sitting inside of my room for the rest of my life. Gonna invest in VR. gently caress these stupid rear end people. If only there had been mandatory 2 week quarantine for all travelers, we could have kept Delta out of the vulnerable Americas
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Scarodactyl posted:The current plan to just pizza blast unprotected schoolkids with adult-sized doses of delta particles is awfully frustrating. Pfizer and Moderna are both trying lower doses. e: My bad. Misread. Platystemon fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Jul 29, 2021 |
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Platystemon posted:??? But it's dumb anyway, if I'm going to be hypothetical, to worry about this thing that won't happen vs other more achievable things like proper mask usage which there could still be a slim chance at.
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Lolie posted:People hunt and eat deer. Remember that our current best guess on how transmission in humans started is that it jumped from bats to humans through an intermediate species used for food. Maybe but this is America and not China. Patient Zero of the Omicron variant will definitely get it from loving a dead deer.
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John_A_Tallon posted:If only there had been mandatory 2 week quarantine for all travelers, we could have kept Delta out of the vulnerable Americas People were going to riot because of politics. People have such a huge Ego and think this Covid thing is over but in reality its getting worse. But the "gently caress you got mine" smoothbrained chuds who signed their death warrant are spreading disinformation faster than shooting hot covid loads out of sick people's lungs. And this poo poo is going to spread like wildfire. I do not have many friends outside of the internet. But the ones that are my friends all now have Covid. Thankfully they are vaccinated and all so I hope they pull through it. You guys might remember back in January I had to go to the hospital because of Covid. And now that I have confirmed long covid, I got the jab when I got this new job working for a medical logistics company. So in a way I am protected through strengthened immune system and two shots. But the reality is that I know A LOT of people who do not want to get the shot because of the poo poo that's going on right now and it terrifies me. So if I wear a mask now in public do I need to look over my shoulder over some redneck who wants to shoot me in the back of the head for following along with what the Government recommends me to do? This poo poo is like the beginning of biblical endings. Sorry to sound doomy but I am scared shitless
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Cthulu Carl posted:Maybe but this is America and not China. I’ve seen enough AUG engagement/wedding announcements to know that this is accurate.
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Katamari Democracy posted:Looks like its just me going to work and sitting inside of my room for the rest of my life. Gonna invest in VR. gently caress these stupid rear end people. Same. But I already had a headset before the pandemic started so I guess I had a head start. This past year and a half has pretty much sapped whatever progress I was making on my mental health. Like I'd finally started feeling good and confident about myself, I'd just moved into a new house and I was set to start working on going out and doing things, traveling around, finding local clubs to join, etc. Then the pandemic hit and it totally mentally and emotionally drained me. Like I can't even commit to making use of all this free time, I just totally shut down and I feel like I used to do when I was just miserable and depressed almost all the time.
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King Vidiot posted:Same. But I already had a headset before the pandemic started so I guess I had a head start. Yeah Covid has brought out the worst in people. It also lead to me to sever from my mother and sister. So now I am pretty much alone with my adopted brother and his family. Thankfully they are not stupid and took me in. I was really wanting to get back into the arcades and play a dancing game called Pump it Up like how I used to a long time ago. But that dream is gone now. Oh well. Guess ill work out at home.
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stab posted:https://twitter.com/LaurenPelley/status/1420505702175551490?s=19 What the gently caress, does the Alberta government all have Trump brainworms?
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stab posted:https://twitter.com/LaurenPelley/status/1420505702175551490?s=19 People are gonna start going to brunch after popping positive.
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So let me get this straight. You guys would really rather have government mandated vaccination and vaccine passports than freedom to choose whether or not to be vaccinated? You guys support workplaces and colleges requiring vaccines, even though they haven't gone through the proper testing set up by the FDA? Is that what you really want? Or are you just saying these things because that is what seems socially acceptable or right to say? Edit: I didn't know that the ivermectin poo poo was under scrutiny or has been questioned for falsified numbers. There are new developments all the time with this poo poo. I am extremely open minded, so yeah, de wormer poo poo that just may have worked to prevent or treat covid seemed like something worth exploring and a better alternative to death/weird freaky untested vaccine poo poo. This journal article seems to back up claims of efficacy at prevention and treatment: https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/fulltext/2021/08000/ivermectin_for_prevention_and_treatment_of.7.aspx I think it is pretty ignorant and short sighted to sit around and call anyone who questions poo poo a chud, or tell people to gently caress off if exploring possible solutions to problems. Assuming, of course, that the foundation is strong. vandalism fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Jul 29, 2021 |
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vandalism posted:So let me get this straight. You guys would really rather have government mandated vaccination and vaccine passports than freedom to choose whether or not to be vaccinated? You guys support workplaces and colleges requiring vaccines, even though they haven't gone through the proper testing set up by the FDA? Is that what you really want? Or are you just saying these things because that is what seems socially acceptable or right to say? lol lmao
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vandalism posted:So let me get this straight. You guys would really rather have government mandated vaccination and vaccine passports than freedom to choose whether or not to be vaccinated? You guys support workplaces and colleges requiring vaccines, even though they haven't gone through the proper testing set up by the FDA? Is that what you really want? Or are you just saying these things because that is what seems socially acceptable or right to say? Yes. Yes. Yes. And no. And the vaccines did go through what the FDA deemed proper testing they even wrote several guidance documents on it. https://www.fda.gov/regulatory-information/search-fda-guidance-documents/development-and-licensure-vaccines-prevent-covid-19 https://www.fda.gov/regulatory-information/search-fda-guidance-documents/emergency-use-authorization-vaccines-prevent-covid-19
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